Re: [Dithaka-devel] RDF concept in Dithaka

[pieter v. z. <pv...@cs...>]

On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 13:17 +0200, Richard Watson wrote:
> Hi Pieter,
>=20
> Do you mean remove altogether or remove from the discussion part?
> Sounds like remove altogether, so I'll respond with that assumption :)
Yes.........and I am just throwing it out here to get an better idea on
why we use it and how it should be used...........=20
>=20
> I have various thoughts, I guess.  I think simplifying the discussion
> stuff would probably be useful, so yup it's likely that doesn't need
> resources.  I think the resource stuff does have some benefit - so the
> choice would be 1) either lose the benefit or 2) try get the benefit
> with some other mechanism, like tagging.  And again, the original
> thinking was to add collaboration to a project with hopefully minimal
> effect on existing classes.  Must be many ways to do that.=20=20
Yes, in the end I see dithaka as a library with an API that can be used
by a project to add collaboration.=20

I just feel(I might be wrong) with RDF it is tightly coupled and the
project using the resource and RDF concept(dithaka) needs to be aware of
this.

I feel RDF could be used to associate data that does not have a direct
association with each other. Looking at a forum with a conversation I
feel there is a direct association and it is internal to Dithaka.

I feel it also not so easy to add these Resources. It is not so easy to
associate a Coefficient Project with a Forum in Dithaka. Is there
another way? Maybe the resource way is the only way when
"integrating/linking"=20

Maybe I can try and change it on our new project and see if there is a
different solution.=20

> If that's
> not important, then why not just use any other discussion forum
> software?  You could also just start another project, strip out the
> useful discussion stuff and lose the resources that way, or add it
> directly to coefficient if that's where you need it.
I was thinking of using it on a project and stripping away the
resources. And see what happens.
>=20
> In any case, I have mostly a legacy interest in it and you guys are
> core to it now so if it's causing you pain then you need a solution.
>=20

Also, talking to Andries it seems our description of dithaka might be
incorrect?=20

Are people downloading and using dithaka as a forum api or are they
actively using the resource concept to link complex data?
> Thoughts?
> Richard
>=20
> On 11/23/06, pieter van zyl <pv...@cs...> wrote:
> > Good day,
> >
> > Looks like the project has had consistent downloads throughout the
> > year :)
> >
> > I would like to start a discussion about RDF concept.
> >
> > I would like to remove the Resource idea. I feel it is great to have
> > metadata and all that but it is overkill for our forum classes: Message,
> > Forum, Conversation etc.
> >
> > The resource idea is also not intuitive for when you are debugging
> > Dithaka..........
> >
> > Anyone with comments?
> >
> > Pieter
> >
> >
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