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Ao final de cada etapa do concurso, que é Bimestral,
os 10 primeiros web sites mais votados em cada categoria, 
recebem um selo como premiação, 
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Dillo treats the value of the 'name' attribute in forms as
case-insensitive.  So if you create one radio box group with name="foo"
and another with name="Foo", then clicking a radio button in one group
turns off the currently selected radio button in the other.
Netscape does not do this.

The W3C specs don't say that the control name should be case
insensitive, so probably following Netscape is the right choice here.

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Hello Livio,

thank you for your answer.

I did expect that the code relies closely on GTK+. The pen usage issue do not scare me al lot. Instead, I am looking for a small, efficient, light, robust, simple to use and extendable browser, which could become the general document viewer (documents would be kept simple to ease the browser), and even replace the desktop.

If you know another open-source (competitor ;-) ) project that could do the job, please tell me.

Anyway, kudos for the great work.

   Pascal

PS. the TuxScreen community (http://www.tuxscreen.net/) could be interested in your browser. I don't know if they have GTK (but since the hardware has similarities with the iPaq, it may be possible).

Livio Baldini Soares wrote:

> Hello Pascal!
> 
> Pascal Bauermeister writes:
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>I am looking for a tiny-footprint web browser for our mobile platforms. I 
>>found Dillo, and it gave me a very good first impression.
>>
> 
> Cool!
> 
> 
>>We are using PicoGUI, not GTK (http://pgui.sf.net). I am wondering whether 
>>a PicoGUI port could be envisaged.
>>
> 
>   Aie... that's kind of hard :( Some other people, also interested in
> mobile platforms (handhelds of various sorts), have previously asked
> about separating current Dillo core from it's GUI, so that they could
> use other libs besides GTK+. 
> 
>   Well, if you ever get around looking at the code, you'll see that
> Dillo is tightly based on Glib, GDK and GTK+. All the widgets, lots of
> structure, etc, etc. You see, Dillo wasn't made to run specifically on
> such small platform, and I believe the creators of Gzilla (where Dillo
> came from) wanted to use GLib plus GTK+ because of their portability
> and lightness. The current Dillo developers are not, therefore, very
> interested in this issue (I think). Hey, but the code _is_ there ;-)
> 
>   Here are some past threads on dillo-dev you might find useful to
> read:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=878826
> (specially William Kendrick's post)
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=878935
> 
>   good luck to you!
> 
> --  
>   Livio <li...@im...>
> 
> 

-- 
Pascal Bauermeister
Head of Software Development

SMARTDATA
PSE-A / EPFL
CH-1015 Lausanne

http://www.smartdata.ch
mailto:pas...@sm...
Phone: +41 (21) 693 84 98
fax:   +41 (21) 693 84 91

Hello Pascal!

Pascal Bauermeister writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I am looking for a tiny-footprint web browser for our mobile platforms. I 
> found Dillo, and it gave me a very good first impression.

Cool!

> We are using PicoGUI, not GTK (http://pgui.sf.net). I am wondering whether 
> a PicoGUI port could be envisaged.

  Aie... that's kind of hard :( Some other people, also interested in
mobile platforms (handhelds of various sorts), have previously asked
about separating current Dillo core from it's GUI, so that they could
use other libs besides GTK+. 

  Well, if you ever get around looking at the code, you'll see that
Dillo is tightly based on Glib, GDK and GTK+. All the widgets, lots of
structure, etc, etc. You see, Dillo wasn't made to run specifically on
such small platform, and I believe the creators of Gzilla (where Dillo
came from) wanted to use GLib plus GTK+ because of their portability
and lightness. The current Dillo developers are not, therefore, very
interested in this issue (I think). Hey, but the code _is_ there ;-)

  Here are some past threads on dillo-dev you might find useful to
read:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=878826
(specially William Kendrick's post)

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=878935

  good luck to you!

--  
  Livio <li...@im...>

Hello,

I am looking for a tiny-footprint web browser for our mobile platforms. I found Dillo, and it gave me a very good first impression.

We are using PicoGUI, not GTK (http://pgui.sf.net). I am wondering whether a PicoGUI port could be envisaged.

Best regards,

   Pascal

-- 
Pascal Bauermeister
Head of Software Development

SMARTDATA
PSE-A / EPFL
CH-1015 Lausanne

http://www.smartdata.ch
mailto:pas...@sm...
Phone: +41 (21) 693 84 98
fax:   +41 (21) 693 84 91

Hello everyone!

  I have started writing a patch that adds a `cache_size' to Dillo's
options, because currently the cache has no limit, therefore,
everything you download gets cached into memory. I've made a very
premature patch, which has a few know bugs...

  But what I want to know is, is this a wanted feature? Now that I've
made Dicache optional, does anyone still see Dillo hogging up RAM?
Before the Dicache removal, I could get 40MiB of use from Dillo after
a fews hours of browsing. But now the _maximum_ I've hit is 20MiB.
(which isn't a lot, if you consider that Netscape 4.77 here at home
eats 20Mib if I _only_ open freshmeat.net and slashdot.org :(

  The problem with making this patch, is that it'll eventually be an
overhead, especially for low cache_sizes... Maybe I'll have to try
harder to make a "low/no-overhead" solution.

  What are the opinions of the Dillo users/developers?

  The patch is at (against _today's_ cvs, 20-Feb-2002, I've made some
changes to the cache module, so it won't work with prior versions of
Dillo):

http://www.ime.usp.br/~livio/dillo/patches/cache-size-limit.diff

  Missing from the patch is the option in dillorc. As said, the option
is `cache_size' and should contain number of _bytes_.  If no option is
given in the dillorc, cache_size gets set to 3145728 (3MiB). So if you
can 5MiB of cache, just do:

cache_size=5242880

Or if you want to set it up zero, just do:

cache_size=00    #just plain `0' will make the parser yell :(

  best regards to all!

--  
  Livio <li...@im...>

Hi!

I'm a Sun Sparcstation 5/OpenBSD user, and dillo looked promising as a
graphical browser. Thus I downloaded the source and went off to compile.
Unfortunately, the makefile dies on me. Has anyone had any experience
getting dillo to compile on OpenBSD 2.9? Here's some of the relevant
info (the Makefile's 10KB, so I'd rather not clog up people's mailboxes
unless I have to):

>./configure

checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for executable suffix...
checking for object suffix... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk-config
checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... yes
checking for jpeg_destroy_decompress in -ljpeg... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... ./configure[2708]: break: can
         only break 1 level(s)
gcc -E
checking for jpeglib.h... yes
checking for jconfig.h... yes
checking for jerror.h... yes
checking for jmorecfg.h... yes
yes
checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... no
checking for zlibVersion in -lz... yes
checking for png_check_sig in -lpng... yes
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for fcntl.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for sys/uio.h... yes
checking for socket... yes
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating doc/Makefile
config.status: creating src/Makefile
config.status: creating src/IO/Makefile
config.status: creating config.h

>make

make  all-recursive
Making all in doc
Making all in src
"Makefile", line 305: Need an operator
Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/magius/TEMP/dillo-0.6.2 (line 161 of Makefile).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/magius/TEMP/dillo-0.6.2 (line 294 of Makefile).

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks in advance.

Best,

--Imad "(e)magius" Hussain
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"You will never know* that this statement is true."

 --adapted from R. Smullyan's _Forever_Undecided_

 * i.e., correctly and consistently believe
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Hello Hashem!

hm...@ar... writes:
> Hi...
> 
> this bug is reproducable.

  Thanks for the report! I've introduced this bug in our bugtrack
engine: http://dillo.sourceforge.net/bugtrack/Dbugtrack.html

 It's bug #225. I know what the problem is, but I haven't thought of
any good and clean solution yet. After I finish working on limiting
Dillo's cache and dicache size (which can take a while) I can try to
clean this out... but maybe some other Dillo developer can try to
volunteer ;).

  Please enjoy borwsing with Dillo, and if you have any other bugs (or
even feature requests), you can either insert it in our bugtrack or
mail it to the list!

  best regards,

--  
  Livio <li...@li...>

Hi...

this bug is reproducable.

type a url and click ENTER, _quickly_ right click on any hyperlink in the 
current page, wait for the
current page to disappear and then click 'open link in new window'.

I have done this several times and it crashes dillo, provided you do
it before the new url you typed shows up.

thanks

Hashem
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Hello Lars,

Lars Clausen writes:
> 
> I just happened upon Dillo today, and mostly want to say thanks for a nice,
> lightweight browser.  I've missed that.  Dillo is really, really fast,
> which has been my main beef with otherwise nice browsers like Galeon.  I
> also like the anchor-menu on the right button menu.  I'm looking forward to
> seeing the developments.

  Cool! Since we are few (developers), it would be nice if you could
ever help out!

> Of course, I can't write you without a bit of wishlist:)  Having cookies
> would be a good step forward (preferably with some filtering).  

  Well, it seems that cookies won't take that long to finish... A
Dillo developer (Jörgen) has been developing cookies support for a
while. He claims that he's almost there! Another developer (Tor-Âke)
has a working authentication patch. Check out the mail archives from
dillo-dev at Geocrawler.com to see all the news Dillo might have in
upcoming versions (or sign up to the list yourself ;-).

> Simple frame support could just list the frames and allow clicking
> on them.

  Well, I've sent a patch to Jorge (the maintainer and main developer)
yesterday to support w3m's style frame (which is very similar to
lynx). Let's see if he likes it!

> Thanks for a nice browser!  I keep browsing around on my own pages just
> enjoying how they're immediately there.

  Yeah! Sometimes I get _really, really_ annoyed with browsers out
there for Linux... I sure hope that when Dillo grows up, it will still
to be a very light and fast browser!

  best regards,

--  
  Livio <li...@li...>

I just happened upon Dillo today, and mostly want to say thanks for a nice,
lightweight browser.  I've missed that.  Dillo is really, really fast,
which has been my main beef with otherwise nice browsers like Galeon.  I
also like the anchor-menu on the right button menu.  I'm looking forward to
seeing the developments.

Of course, I can't write you without a bit of wishlist:)  Having cookies
would be a good step forward (preferably with some filtering).  Simple
frame support could just list the frames and allow clicking on them.=20=20

Thanks for a nice browser!  I keep browsing around on my own pages just
enjoying how they're immediately there.

-Lars

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"I do not agree with a word that you say, but I   |------------------------=
----
will defend to the death your right to say it."   | Where are we going, and
    --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire  | what's with the handbas=
ket?

Hello!

hm...@ar... writes:
> Hi...
> 
> Thank you for a fast and good web browser :-)

  Heheh, I like it too!

> I have few questions:
> 
> 1.My preferences don't show up if I press the corresponding menu 
>   option, what is wrong? my machine setup is:
(...)
>   I also had the same problem with dillo-0.5.1, any ideas?

  Actually the Preferences menu option doesn't do anything (for
now). Someday in the future this will be integrated, I believe, as a
plugin. So preferences support will have to wait for the Dillo plugin
scheme.

 But you can edit your preferences by hand. Just copy the `dillorc`
which comes in the tarball to $HOME/.dillo/, and look at the comments
in that file to change what you want.

> 2.I had a segfault which crashed dillo-0.6.1, but I didn't know what was
>   the cause,if it does occur sometime later I will report it.
>   Can I in some way debug dillo myself (using gdb)? direct me if you
>   may.

  Sure. Just do:
cd dillo_dir/src/
gdb ./dillo

  In gdb just enter `r` to run. Then when you get a segfault, get a
backtrace of the calls' frames, by entering `bt`.

  But these rare, unconsistent segfaults are kind of tricky to
catch...

  If you have any interesting feedback, please feel free to write!

  best regards,

--  
  Livio <li...@li...>

Hi...

Thank you for a fast and good web browser :-)

I have few questions:

1.My preferences don't show up if I press the corresponding menu 
  option, what is wrong? my machine setup is:

  PIII 933MHZ
  128 MB RAM
  Redhat Linux 7.0
  gcc-2.96-54
  dillo-0.6.1

  I also had the same problem with dillo-0.5.1, any ideas?

2.I had a segfault which crashed dillo-0.6.1, but I didn't know what was
  the cause,if it does occur sometime later I will report it.
  Can I in some way debug dillo myself (using gdb)? direct me if you may.

I am not subscribed to the list so please cc: to me,

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work :-)

Hashem
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