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[DIGImend-devel] [ digimend-Bugs-3531997 ] Provide identifying event device names

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Bugs item #3531997, was opened at 2012-06-04 14:00
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Category: tablets
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nikolai Kondrashov (spb_nick)
Assigned to: Nikolai Kondrashov (spb_nick)
Summary: Provide identifying event device names

Initial Comment:
Look into the possibility to make unique names for event devices created with the use of HID_QUIRK_MULTIINPUT. This would make it easier for the users and applications such as GIMP to identify them.

This could be implemented by adding a name field to the corresponding device structure and having it initialized to the USB device name, possibly with the report ID appended, in the generic driver. After that a specific HID driver would be able to override it with a more meaningful name.

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Re: [DIGImend-devel] Update evdev wiki page.

[Nikolai K. <sp...@gm...>]

Hi Dave,

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Favux ... <fav...@gm...> wrote:
> Now that the Wacom page is updated I'm looking to update the evdev page.
>
> Right now for a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/52-tablet.conf I have:
> Section "InputClass"
>        Identifier "Graphics tablet mouse"
>        MatchIsPointer "on"
>        MatchProduct "keyword"
>        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
>        Driver "evdev"
>        # Apply custom Options below.
>
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputClass"
>        Identifier "Graphics tablet pen"
>        MatchIsTablet "on"
>        MatchProduct "keyword"
>        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
>        Driver "evdev"
>        # Apply custom Options below.
>
> EndSection
>
> My tester has a UC-Logic PF1209 with a mouse.  This also seems to work:
> Section "InputClass"
>        Identifier "Graphics tablet mouse"
>        MatchDriver "evdev"
>        MatchIsPointer "on"
>        MatchProduct "PF1209"
>        # Apply custom Options below.
>
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputClass"
>        Identifier "Graphics tablet pen"
>        MatchDriver "evdev"
>        MatchIsTablet "on"
>        MatchProduct "PF1209"
>        # Apply custom Options below.
>        Option "ButtonMapping" "1 3 2"
> EndSection

First of all, the project goal is to have everything work without user
configuration and even without package-shipped configuration, if
possible. So, it's better to stress that these are only necessary if
you wish to change default options and maybe provide examples of such
options.

I think it's better to leave MatchDevicePath there. It will work
without it, but I guess the Xorg.0.log will be a bit more noisy with
xf86-input-evdev rejecting synthetic mouse devices.

Otherwise the snippets look good.

> I'm assuming the "evdev keyboard catchall" with MatchIsKeyboard is
> handling the keyboard events.  And since no options are available for
> it no reason to include a snippet for it.

I agree.

> Does evdev need a scroll snippet analogous to the Waltop scroll
> snippet?  I noticed that at least some of the recent KYE tablets have
> a touch ring/multifunction dial.  Does it have scroll?

Some of them do have scroll. However, I didn't make a driver for one
yet. I have diagnostics for EasyPen M406, but its protocol isn't
HID-compatible and requires creating synthetic devices. The bug number
for this is 3530654. I'll have to practice by making proprietary-mode
Waltop driver first, requiring similar approach, because I don't have
this model.

I expect that the wheel support will be similar to Waltop one. Still,
let's not include such a snippet into the HOWTO yet.

Thanks :)

Sincerely,
Nick

Re: [DIGImend-devel] Wiki editing

[Nikolai K. <sp...@gm...>]

Hi Viktoria,

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Viktoria S. <vik...@fr...> wrote:
> I have finished two pages about how to set up tablets:
> SourceForge.net: Tablet setup in GTK based applications (Gimp, MyPaint) - digimend
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTK_based_applications_(Gimp,_MyPaint)
>
> SourceForge.net: Tablet setup in GTKMM based applications (Inkscape, Synfig Studio) - digimend
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTKMM_based_applications_(Inkscape,_Synfig_Studio)
>
> It would be great if you could review it and give me some feed back.

They're looking good, thank you! I have already learned a few things
reading just these two pages.
It's good to have someone on the team who actually uses a tablet and
these applications :)

Here are some comments:

1. So far I see little sense in putting application instructions
together based on their toolkit - there is little similarity in the
configuration instructions.

What if we put every application on a separate page? This way, I
think, each article will be more focused and the users won't be
confusing instructions from different applications. We can then have a
category for application HOWTOs, have an introduction on its page and
link to it from the main page. We can additionally have toolkit
categories, if needed.

The category pages would look like this one (with more introductory
text, maybe): https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Category:Tablets

If you don't like this design, we could have a dedicated page instead,
but the list of articles will need manual updating in this case.

2. I think each page should have a note saying where to ask questions
not covered by the HOWTO and where to send corrections. The
DIGImend-users maillist is a good place for this, IMHO. Or, maybe
better still, each article should start with an introduction
explaining which application and which versions it covers, pointing to
the maillist for questions and corrections and maybe stating the
author.

3. There are some small English mistakes and minor style issues. If
you don't mind, I can fix them in place. I'll try to group the changes
so that it is easier for you to review. Maybe Dave would be able to go
through and further improve them after my fixes.

4. I would also like you to be the maintainer of these HOWTOs and keep
an eye on them, updating and correcting them as necessary. Can you do
that?

> I create the rest of the pages:
> Qt apllications (Krita, Pencil)
> JPen applications (Alchemy)
> X based applications (Blender, Wine (?))
> later.

It would be awesome if we had all of these :)

Thanks! I would have never had time to do it all myself.

Sincerely,
Nick

Re: [DIGImend-devel] Wiki editing

[Nikolai K. <sp...@gm...>]

Hi Viktoria,

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Viktoria S. <vik...@fr...> wrote:
> I have finished two pages about how to set up tablets:
> SourceForge.net: Tablet setup in GTK based applications (Gimp, MyPaint) - digimend
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTK_based_applications_(Gimp,_MyPaint)
>
> SourceForge.net: Tablet setup in GTKMM based applications (Inkscape, Synfig Studio) - digimend
> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTKMM_based_applications_(Inkscape,_Synfig_Studio)
>
> It would be great if you could review it and give me some feed back.

I've started reviewing the first page. Hopefully I'll finish reviewing both
of them by today's evening and will send you the comments.

> I create the rest of the pages:
> Qt apllications (Krita, Pencil)
> JPen applications (Alchemy)
> X based applications (Blender, Wine (?))
> later.

Sure.

Thanks for doing this :)!

Sincerely,
Nick

Re: [DIGImend-devel] Wiki editing

[Viktoria S. <vik...@fr...>]

Hi!

I have finished two pages about how to set up tablets:
SourceForge.net: Tablet setup in GTK based applications (Gimp, MyPaint) - digimend
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTK_based_applications_(Gimp,_MyPaint)

SourceForge.net: Tablet setup in GTKMM based applications (Inkscape, Synfig Studio) - digimend
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTKMM_based_applications_(Inkscape,_Synfig_Studio)

It would be great if you could review it and give me some feed back.

I create the rest of the pages:
Qt apllications (Krita, Pencil)
JPen applications (Alchemy)
X based applications (Blender, Wine (?))
later. 

Best wishes:
Viktoria

"Viktoria S." <vik...@fr...> írta:
>Hi!>
>
I have started to work on the "Tablet setup in GTK based applications (Gimp, MyPaint)" page in the digimend wiki site.>
Here is the link: https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTK_based_applications_%28Gimp,_MyPaint%29>
This is not complete yet, but it can give you some idea what kind of content do I want to put to those pages.>
>
Best wishes:>
Viktoria>
>
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[DIGImend-devel] Wiki editing

[Viktoria S. <vik...@fr...>]

Hi!

I have started to work on the "Tablet setup in GTK based applications (Gimp, MyPaint)" page in the digimend wiki site.
Here is the link: https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_setup_in_GTK_based_applications_%28Gimp,_MyPaint%29
This is not complete yet, but it can give you some idea what kind of content do I want to put to those pages.

Best wishes:
Viktoria

Re: [DIGImend-devel] Tablet issue category created in the bug tracker

[Nikolai K. <sp...@gm...>]

Hi Viktoria,

On 05/30/2012 08:35 AM, Viktoria S. wrote:
> That's cool. I have added the gimp 2.8 but too. :) And I will keep track
> of the Blender and QT bugs. :)

Thanks :)!

> And  I have got one question. The digimend wiki page is great in my
> opinion. There is only one thing I can enhance it with: create how tos
> to set up the evdev tablets with various applications. Shall I create
> those pages?
> I thought I can categorise the application based on library:
> GTK applications (Gimp 2.6, Gimp 2.8, Mypaint)
> GTKMM applications (Synfig Studio)
> JPen applications (Alchemy)
> Qt apllications (Krita, Pencil)
> X based applications (Blender)
> I can write down how to set it up, is it work, current workarounds etc.

That would be just great! You can create the page right away and link to it
from the main page when you think it's more or less ready.

I can suggest finishing instructions for the first few applications, then
linking from the main page, and then proceeding to add more of them.

Thanks, Viktoria :)

Sincerely,
Nick

Re: [DIGImend-devel] Tablet issue category created in the bug tracker

[Viktoria S. <vik...@fr...>]

Hi!

That's cool. I have added the gimp 2.8 but too. :) And I will keep track of the Blender and QT bugs. :)
 And  I have got one question. The digimend wiki page is great in my opinion. There is only one thing I can enhance it with: create how tos to set up the evdev tablets with various applications. Shall I create those pages?
I thought I can categorise the application based on library:
GTK applications (Gimp 2.6, Gimp 2.8, Mypaint)
GTKMM applications (Synfig Studio)
JPen applications (Alchemy)
Qt apllications (Krita, Pencil)
X based applications (Blender)
I can write down how to set it up, is it work, current workarounds etc.

Best wishes:
Viktoria

Nikolai Kondrashov <sp...@gm...> írta:
>Hi Dave, Viktoria,>
>
I've just created a tablet issue category in the project's bug>
tracker. It's called simply "tablets":>
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=233297&atid=1089171>
>
I've started loosing track of all the tablet issues out there and>
decided to start writing them down. So far, I've added the three>
general tablet issues related to xf86-input-evdev there, linking them>
to the upstream bugs. I'll be posting some more tablet model-specific>
problems there soon, like the tilt dilemma, absolute mouse, eraser>
button not working, etc.>
>
I've added both of you as the bug tracker techs and admins, so you>
should be able to create and modify issues, if you so wish. Viktoria,>
I was thinking that maybe you would want to assign the Qt and Blender>
issue tracking bugs to yourself, since you reported them upstream, but>
it is up to you, of course.>
>
The SourceForge bug tracker isn't so good, I know, but let's try to>
bear with it and if we start hitting the limitations too often, I'll>
try to think of something better.>
>
Thank you.>
>
Sincerely,>
Nick>

[DIGImend-devel] [ digimend-Bugs-3530731 ] GIMP 2.8 device handling issue with multi input devices

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Bugs item #3530731, was opened at 2012-05-29 22:13
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Category: None
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
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Submitted By: Viktoria S. (viktoria-s)
Assigned to: Viktoria S. (viktoria-s)
Summary: GIMP 2.8 device handling issue with multi input devices

Initial Comment:
On the Configure Input Devices dialog you can see and configure only one of the devices.
(For example in case of Genius MousePen i608X you can see the pen or the mouse dependig on which is the first in the xinput list.)
The reported bug is here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674253

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[DIGImend-devel] Update evdev wiki page.

[Favux ... <fav...@gm...>]

Hi Nick and Viktoria S.,

Now that the Wacom page is updated I'm looking to update the evdev page.

Right now for a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/52-tablet.conf I have:
Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "Graphics tablet mouse"
        MatchIsPointer "on"
        MatchProduct "keyword"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        # Apply custom Options below.

EndSection

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "Graphics tablet pen"
        MatchIsTablet "on"
        MatchProduct "keyword"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        # Apply custom Options below.

EndSection

My tester has a UC-Logic PF1209 with a mouse.  This also seems to work:
Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "Graphics tablet mouse"
	MatchDriver "evdev"
        MatchIsPointer "on"
        MatchProduct "PF1209"
        # Apply custom Options below.

EndSection

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "Graphics tablet pen"
	MatchDriver "evdev"
        MatchIsTablet "on"
        MatchProduct "PF1209"
        # Apply custom Options below.
        Option "ButtonMapping" "1 3 2"
EndSection

I'm assuming the "evdev keyboard catchall" with MatchIsKeyboard is
handling the keyboard events.  And since no options are available for
it no reason to include a snippet for it.

Does evdev need a scroll snippet analogous to the Waltop scroll
snippet?  I noticed that at least some of the recent KYE tablets have
a touch ring/multifunction dial.  Does it have scroll?

Favux

Re: [DIGImend-devel] Tablet diagnostics

[Favux ... <fav...@gm...>]

Hi Todd,

If you are using Ubuntu Natty or newer I think the tablet should be
working.  That's because I believe it is already supported but has a
name new to us.  Open a terminal and type:
lsusb
and hit enter.

If you see a tablet line with 5543:0042 it should be supported.  The
0042 is the Product ID, basically the model.  See this wiki page:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_support_status
 My guess is the Monoprice 12x9 Graphics Tablet PF1209 is the UC-Logic
Tablet PF1209.

Anyway if it is then what you want is help setting up rather than in
submitting diagnostics.  In that case could you post on digimend-users
instead?

Favux

[DIGImend-devel] Tablet diagnostics

[Todd M. <how...@gm...>]

Hi, Sorry to bug you with such a lame question.
Unfortunately I was unable to collect my tablet diagnostics.

When it comes to the terminal in ubuntu, I seem to goof up often.

Maybe someone has already submitted the diagnostics for a Monoprice 12x9
Graphics Tablet PF1209?
I would love to get this working with ubuntu and paint something in more
than just MyPaint.

If you can't help me out I understand.

Cheers,
Todd

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[DIGImend-devel] [ digimend-Bugs-3530661 ] KYE MousePen i608X mouse supports absolute mode only

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Bugs item #3530661, was opened at 2012-05-29 13:51
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Category: None
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nikolai Kondrashov (spb_nick)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: KYE MousePen i608X mouse supports absolute mode only

Initial Comment:
The KYE MousePen i608X kernel driver reports mouse coordinates as is: in absolute mode. This makes the mouse hard to use.

The xf86-input-evdev driver, the only suitable for handling it, doesn't support converting mouse absolute coordinates to relative.

This should be fixed. I've had some suggestions from Peter Hutterer as to how to best approach it, which need to be posted here.

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[DIGImend-devel] Tablet issue category created in the bug tracker

[Nikolai K. <sp...@gm...>]

Hi Dave, Viktoria,

I've just created a tablet issue category in the project's bug
tracker. It's called simply "tablets":
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=233297&atid=1089171

I've started loosing track of all the tablet issues out there and
decided to start writing them down. So far, I've added the three
general tablet issues related to xf86-input-evdev there, linking them
to the upstream bugs. I'll be posting some more tablet model-specific
problems there soon, like the tilt dilemma, absolute mouse, eraser
button not working, etc.

I've added both of you as the bug tracker techs and admins, so you
should be able to create and modify issues, if you so wish. Viktoria,
I was thinking that maybe you would want to assign the Qt and Blender
issue tracking bugs to yourself, since you reported them upstream, but
it is up to you, of course.

The SourceForge bug tracker isn't so good, I know, but let's try to
bear with it and if we start hitting the limitations too often, I'll
try to think of something better.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Nick