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From: Ian D. <ian...@hp...> - 2004-10-22 10:34:50
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A general question on the DIG 1.1 spec, but I'm especially interested in
Sean's and Ralf's answers! I have a user bug report on Jena at the
moment, where the situation is as follows (using Racer 1.7.23):
<tells [...attribs omitted for clarity...]>
<defconcept name="http://www.example.com/testontology#C"/>
<defconcept name="http://www.example.com/testontology#A"/>
<defconcept name="http://www.example.com/testontology#B"/>
<defindividual
name="http://www.example.com/testinstances#TestInstance"/>
<impliesc>
<catom name="http://www.example.com/testontology#C"/>
<catom name="http://www.example.com/testontology#B"/>
</impliesc>
<impliesc>
<catom name="http://www.example.com/testontology#B"/>
<catom name="http://www.example.com/testontology#A"/>
</impliesc>
<instanceof>
<individual
name="http://www.example.com/testinstances#TestInstance"/>
<catom name="http://www.example.com/testontology#C"/>
</instanceof>
</tells>
<asks [...]>
<types id="q1">
<individual name="http://www.example.com/testinstances#TestInstance"/>
</types>
</asks>
<responses [...]>
<conceptSet id="q1">
<synonyms>
<catom name="http://www.example.com/testontology#C"/>
</synonyms>
</conceptSet>
</responses>
The user was expecting C, B and A as the response, which seems
reasonable. It seems to me that <types> is returning the direct types
(i.e. like <parents> rather than <ancestors>).
Is this the correct behaviour for DIG 1.1? In other words, to get the
full classification of TestInstance I should do <types>, followed by N
queries of <ancestors> on the returned concept names? I note that the
spec is silent on the exact meaning of <types>.
Either way, I advocate that DIG 2.0 has an asks form for both the direct
types and the closure of the concept hierarchy. Is there a standard
nomenclature for this difference in the DL community?
Regards,
Ian
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From: Daniele T. <dt...@cs...> - 2004-10-18 15:56:58
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The minutes of the DIG 2.0 specification meeeting held on
October 14, 2004 in Manchester
http://dig.sourceforge.net/meeting.html
can be now found in the new DIG blog:
http://dl-dig.blogspot.com/
The main novelty is that DIG 2.0 will be based on the OWL-XML
syntax:
http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-xmlsyntax/
Daniele
--
Dr Daniele Turi
Information Management Group, School of Computer Science
The University of Manchester
2.100 Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK.
Tel +44 (0) 161 275 6145
Fax 6211
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~dturi
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From: <au...@in...> - 2004-10-05 19:00:28
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Hello everybody, we are developing a web based ontology editor pOWL (http://powl.sourcefor= ge.net/) and would like to enable pOWL users to submit their models to DIG complia= nt reasoner. Unfortunately there seems no XSLT stylesheet available converting OWL int= o DIGs XML format, which would be the easiest method for our PHP application (and probably m= any more applications not written in Java as well) to query the reasoner. I'm still not very familar with DL in general and DIG in particular and w= anted to ask if someone is already working on such a stylesheet and if not on your commen= ts on that. Regards, S=F6ren -------------------------------------------------------------- S=F6ren Auer - University of Leipzig - Dept. of Computer Science Room 5-52, Augustusplatz 10, 04109 Leipzig, +49 (341) 97-32323 |
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From: Daniele T. <dt...@cs...> - 2004-09-13 13:36:59
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All DIG users are invited to the following meeting
http://dig.sourceforge.net/meeting.html
to progress the DIG specification.
Date: Thursday October 14, 2004
Location:
Room 1.10, Kilburn Building
Department of Computer Science
University of Manchester
Oxford Road
Manchester, UK
No funding for travel is available, but we will set up
an access grid <http://www.accessgrid.org/> for remote
participation if needed.
Please mail me (and not the list) if you plan to attend
either in person or virtually.
Daniele
--
Dr Daniele Turi
Information Management Group, Department of Computer Science
University of Manchester
2.100 Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK.
Tel +44 (0) 161 275 6145
Fax 6211
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~dturi
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-09-07 13:43:51
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Ian Horrocks wrote: > Several of the "usual suspects" will be at ADL, but holding > the meeting there > probably wont do anything to broaden the basis of the group > and encourage, e.g., > members of the Jean team to participate. This seems to be a > rather important > argument against having *the* meeting there (although it may > still make sense to have *a* meeting there). I agree. Sorry to be in radio silence for so long, I've been (very) busy with other stuff. My suggestion is that those who can meet at ADL do so, then we have a follow-up meeting in Manchester in (say) early October. I certainly won't be at ADL, but I understand that Ralf can't make it over to the UK, so it seems we can't manage a f2f involving all the currently known interested parties anyway. Regards, Ian _____________________________________________________________________ Ian Dickinson HP Labs, Bristol, UK mailto:ian...@hp... net www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Ian_Dickinson ph +44 (117) 312 8796 |
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From: Ian H. <hor...@cs...> - 2004-08-26 16:25:49
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Daniele Turi wrote: > Ralf Möller wrote: > >> >> Concering a meeting in Manchester (or Bristol), I see some problems >> w.r.t. funding (flight costs, etc.). >> Would it be possible to meet at ADL 04 >> (http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~seanb/adl/) in Ulm >> (around 24th September)? >> > > I would be able to attend ADL'04. Several of the "usual suspects" will be at ADL, but holding the meeting there probably wont do anything to broaden the basis of the group and encourage, e.g., members of the Jean team to participate. This seems to be a rather important argument against having *the* meeting there (although it may still make sense to have *a* meeting there). Ian > > Daniele > |
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From: Daniele T. <dt...@cs...> - 2004-08-06 10:13:28
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Ralf Möller wrote: > > Concering a meeting in Manchester (or Bristol), I see some problems > w.r.t. funding (flight costs, etc.). > Would it be possible to meet at ADL 04 > (http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~seanb/adl/) in Ulm > (around 24th September)? > I would be able to attend ADL'04. Daniele -- Dr Daniele Turi Information Management Group, Department of Computer Science University of Manchester 2.100 Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel +44 (0) 161 275 6145 Fax 6211 http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~dturi |
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From: <r.f...@tu...> - 2004-08-06 09:29:04
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On 16.07.2004, at 11:52, Daniele Turi wrote: > It seems time to make a decision re the f2f meeting. > > Sean and I propose to have it on Friday September 10 in Manchester. > (Alternative dates in the week 6-10 September could be arranged.) > For those who cannot attend and are interested we can set up > an Access Grid meeting. Please let us know your availability > as soon as possible. > Dear colleagues, after the teaching period and just coming back from my vacation I return to the DIG meeting issue. Concering a meeting in Manchester (or Bristol), I see some problems w.r.t. funding (flight costs, etc.). Would it be possible to meet at ADL 04 (http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~seanb/adl/) in Ulm (around 24th September)? Best regards, Ralf |
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From: Daniele T. <dt...@cs...> - 2004-07-16 09:53:17
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It seems time to make a decision re the f2f meeting.
Sean and I propose to have it on Friday September 10 in Manchester.
(Alternative dates in the week 6-10 September could be arranged.)
For those who cannot attend and are interested we can set up
an Access Grid meeting. Please let us know your availability
as soon as possible.
Best,
Daniele
Sean Bechhofer wrote:
> Dickinson, Ian J wrote:
>
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>>> I'd agree. A f2f is always a good idea, particularly when there's
>>> likely to be a fair bit of discussion. If we don't want to wait
>>> until September (although in reality given holidays, conferencing,
>>> etc etc it's not actually *that* far away now),
>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>
>>> an alternative is to try and set up an Access Grid meeting or
>>> something similar. We've had some success with that recently. Do you
>>> (Ralf, Ian D) have those facilities?
>>
>>
>> Sorry, that's a new one on me. What's an Access Grid? (though, under
>> negation as failure, I expect the answer is "no we don't" :-)
>
>
> Negation as Failure? No, I don't think we'll be having that. Remember
> the "D" in DIG ;-)
>
> Access Grid has been described as "videoconferencing on steroids" but
> it's more than that really. Basically supports distributed meetings
> through video, audio, shared workspaces etc.
>
> http://www.accessgrid.org/
>
> You don't actually need that much hardware to participate -- I believe
> it'll all run on a basic machine with suitable peripherals (e.g.
> camera/mic).
>
> Sean
>
--
Dr Daniele Turi
Information Management Group, Department of Computer Science
University of Manchester
2.100 Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK.
Tel +44 (0) 161 275 6145
Fax 6211
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~dturi
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From: Sean B. <se...@cs...> - 2004-06-16 10:10:49
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Dickinson, Ian J wrote: > Hi Sean, > >>I'd agree. A f2f is always a good idea, particularly when >>there's likely >>to be a fair bit of discussion. If we don't want to wait >>until September >>(although in reality given holidays, conferencing, etc etc it's not >>actually *that* far away now), > > Agreed. > > >>an alternative is to try and set up an >>Access Grid meeting or something similar. We've had some success with >>that recently. Do you (Ralf, Ian D) have those facilities? > > Sorry, that's a new one on me. What's an Access Grid? (though, under > negation as failure, I expect the answer is "no we don't" :-) Negation as Failure? No, I don't think we'll be having that. Remember the "D" in DIG ;-) Access Grid has been described as "videoconferencing on steroids" but it's more than that really. Basically supports distributed meetings through video, audio, shared workspaces etc. http://www.accessgrid.org/ You don't actually need that much hardware to participate -- I believe it'll all run on a basic machine with suitable peripherals (e.g. camera/mic). Sean -- Sean Bechhofer se...@cs... http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~seanb |
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-06-16 09:56:23
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Hi Sean, > I'd agree. A f2f is always a good idea, particularly when > there's likely > to be a fair bit of discussion. If we don't want to wait > until September > (although in reality given holidays, conferencing, etc etc it's not > actually *that* far away now), Agreed. > an alternative is to try and set up an > Access Grid meeting or something similar. We've had some success with > that recently. Do you (Ralf, Ian D) have those facilities? Sorry, that's a new one on me. What's an Access Grid? (though, under negation as failure, I expect the answer is "no we don't" :-) Ian |
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From: Sean B. <se...@cs...> - 2004-06-16 09:51:27
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Dickinson, Ian J wrote: > Hi Ralf, > >>I am afraid, due to my teaching obligations, the week beginning with >>July 5th is impossible for me. > > Noted. Ian Horrocks also can't make that week. > > >>I have free time slots in August though. > > Dani emailed me to say that between himself and Sean, August is fully > covered by vacation until w/b August 30th (which, as it happens, is a public > holiday in the UK). So it looks as though the earliest we could all meet > would be Tuesday Sept 1st. > > >>What about funding? > > HP is prepared to host the event for free, but you'd have to cover your own > travel costs. If travel funding is difficult for you, I guess we could come > to Germany (well, I could probably get travel funding for a short trip to > mainland Europe, I don't know if that's true for the Manchester folks). It > would give me a good reason to brush up my German :-) Ja :-). I'm sure we'd be able to fund a short trip. Give current UK train prices, flying to Germany probably isn't that much different from travelling to Bristol... > The alternative, of course, is that we do the revision process by email. I > tend to think though, that as we're all very busy with other work, a f2f > would provide a good shot of momentum to get the process off to a good > start. I'd agree. A f2f is always a good idea, particularly when there's likely to be a fair bit of discussion. If we don't want to wait until September (although in reality given holidays, conferencing, etc etc it's not actually *that* far away now), an alternative is to try and set up an Access Grid meeting or something similar. We've had some success with that recently. Do you (Ralf, Ian D) have those facilities? Sean -- Sean Bechhofer se...@cs... http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~seanb |
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-06-16 09:13:32
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Hi Ralf, > I am afraid, due to my teaching obligations, the week beginning with > July 5th is impossible for me. Noted. Ian Horrocks also can't make that week. > I have free time slots in August though. Dani emailed me to say that between himself and Sean, August is fully covered by vacation until w/b August 30th (which, as it happens, is a public holiday in the UK). So it looks as though the earliest we could all meet would be Tuesday Sept 1st. > What about funding? HP is prepared to host the event for free, but you'd have to cover your own travel costs. If travel funding is difficult for you, I guess we could come to Germany (well, I could probably get travel funding for a short trip to mainland Europe, I don't know if that's true for the Manchester folks). It would give me a good reason to brush up my German :-) The alternative, of course, is that we do the revision process by email. I tend to think though, that as we're all very busy with other work, a f2f would provide a good shot of momentum to get the process off to a good start. Regards, Ian |
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From: <r.f...@tu...> - 2004-06-14 12:03:35
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On 07.06.2004, at 15:24, Dickinson, Ian J wrote: > Folks - > We have been discussing for a while now the possibility of having a > short > (i.e. one day) face-to-face meeting to make some solid progress on > moving > the DIG specification forward. A proposed window is the week > beginning July > 5th. I'm willing to host the meeting here at HPLabs (Bristol, UK), > but we > can be flexible if there's a more obvious venue. I am afraid, due to my teaching obligations, the week beginning with July 5th is impossible for me. I have free time slots in August though. What about funding? Best regards, Ralf > > Would those who would like to attend such a meeting please respond with > their availability that week, or alternative proposals for better > timing > and/or venue? I imagine we can set up the usual panoply of virtual > attendance services for those that wish to participate but can't > attend in > person. > > Regards, > Ian > > PS I'm going to be in New York for AAMAS'04 if anyone wants to meet > there. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. > From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one > installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and > evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 > _______________________________________________ > DIG-users mailing list > DIG...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dig-users > |
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From: <r.f...@tu...> - 2004-06-14 11:50:48
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On 06.06.2004, at 18:51, Gennaro Bruno wrote: > Thanks you for your answer!!! > This command seems to be exactly what I need but > however I have a problem by using it. > I did not understand if this command should be used to load an=20 > existing KB into RACER or to use an ontology which has been previously > loaded into RACER (ex. via tcp). > It seems that using the <useKB name=3D"..."/> command, RACER create a=20= > new empty > KB whose the uri corresponds to the "name" parameter. > Are URI and name the same? I did not think so. Load your KB using Rice. Let us assume, the name of the kb is TEST. Then, send the following using the DIG protocol (HTTP). <?xml version=3D"1.0"?> <useKB xmlns=3D"http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang" xmlns:xsi=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation=3D"http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang http://potato.cs.man.ac.uk/dig/level0/dig.xsd" name=3D"TEST"/> Racer returns a URI that can be used in subsequent queries. Regards, Ralf > Through RICE I can see that the corresponding tbox exists but it is=20 > empty. > Thank you in advance. > Gennaro > > Ralf M=F6ller wrote: > >> >> On Thursday, June 3, 2004, at 06:49 PM, Gennaro Bruno wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody, >>> As the subject of my mail explains, I have a problem >>> using the DIG interface for accesing RACER. Let me explain better... >>> What I need to do is accessing an existing ontology by using the DIG=20= >>> interface >>> without be forced to create a new one (newKB) and fill it by using=20= >>> "tells" commands. >>> In my example, I loaded it through the RACER TCP interface by using=20= >>> the following command >>> (daml-read-document=20 >>> "http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1.daml") >>> Now, what URI do I have to use for posing ASK QUERIES through the=20 >>> DIG interface? >>> I asked for it because if I use=20 >>> "http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1" as URI >>> it does not work. This is an example: >> >> >> For this purpose, Racer provides an extension to DIG1.1. Instead of=20= >> <newKB> you can use >> <useKB=20 >> name=3D"http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1"/> >> Please make sure that the name is correct by asking, e.g.,=20 >> (all-tboxes). >> >> Afterwards, the following query should be processed correctly (I did=20= >> not try though). >> >> Sorry for any inconvenience. Will add this to the Racer manual as=20 >> soon as possible :-) >> >> Ralf >> >> >>> >>> <?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?> >>> <asks >>> xmlns=3D"http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang" >>> xmlns:xsi=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" >>> xsi:schemaLocation=3D"http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang >>> http://potato.cs.man.ac.uk/dig/level0/dig.xsd" >>> uri=3D"http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1">= >>> <allConceptNames id=3D"q1"/> >>> <allRoleNames id=3D"q2"/> >>> <allIndividuals id=3D"q3"/> >>> </asks> >>> >>> and this is the response >>> >>> HTTP/1.1 100 Continue >>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK >>> content-length: 350 >>> content-type: text/xml >>> server: CL-HTTP/70.180 (LispWorks; 1.8.9) >>> date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:27:31 GMT >>> content-location: http://129.88.39.33:8080/ >>> <?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?> >>> <error message=3D"No such knowledge base known:=20 >>> http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1"/> >>> <error message=3D"Cannot handle tag=20 >>> http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang#allConceptNames"/> >>> <error message=3D"Cannot handle tag=20 >>> http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang#allRoleNames"/> >>> <error message=3D"Cannot handle tag=20 >>> http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang#allIndividuals"/> >>> >>> How can I access this KB through the DIG interface? Is this=20 >>> possible? If so what URI do I have to use to access it? >>> Thank you in advance for your answers. >>> Sincerely, >>> Gennaro Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. >>> =46rom Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the = one >>> installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and >>> evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> DIG-users mailing list >>> DIG...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dig-users >>> >> >> > > |
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From: Daniele T. <dt...@cs...> - 2004-06-07 17:26:22
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Dickinson, Ian J wrote: > Folks - > We have been discussing for a while now the possibility of having a short > (i.e. one day) face-to-face meeting to make some solid progress on moving > the DIG specification forward. A proposed window is the week beginning July > 5th. I'm willing to host the meeting here at HPLabs (Bristol, UK), but we > can be flexible if there's a more obvious venue. > > Would those who would like to attend such a meeting please respond with > their availability that week, or alternative proposals for better timing > and/or venue? I imagine we can set up the usual panoply of virtual > attendance services for those that wish to participate but can't attend in > person. > I am available. Best, Daniele -- Dr Daniele Turi Information Management Group, Department of Computer Science University of Manchester 2.100 Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel +44 (0) 161 275 6145 Fax 6211 http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~dturi |
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From: Ian H. <hor...@cs...> - 2004-06-07 16:27:54
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Dickinson, Ian J wrote: > Folks - > We have been discussing for a while now the possibility of having a short > (i.e. one day) face-to-face meeting to make some solid progress on moving > the DIG specification forward. A proposed window is the week beginning July > 5th. I'm willing to host the meeting here at HPLabs (Bristol, UK), but we > can be flexible if there's a more obvious venue. > > Would those who would like to attend such a meeting please respond with > their availability that week, or alternative proposals for better timing > and/or venue? I imagine we can set up the usual panoply of virtual > attendance services for those that wish to participate but can't attend in > person. It would be a problem for me as I will be at IJCAR [1], but it probably isn't critical for me to be there. Ian [1] http://www.4c.ucc.ie/ijcar/ > > Regards, > Ian > > PS I'm going to be in New York for AAMAS'04 if anyone wants to meet there. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. >>From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one > installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and > evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 > _______________________________________________ > DIG-users mailing list > DIG...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dig-users > |
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-06-07 13:25:39
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Folks - We have been discussing for a while now the possibility of having a short (i.e. one day) face-to-face meeting to make some solid progress on moving the DIG specification forward. A proposed window is the week beginning July 5th. I'm willing to host the meeting here at HPLabs (Bristol, UK), but we can be flexible if there's a more obvious venue. Would those who would like to attend such a meeting please respond with their availability that week, or alternative proposals for better timing and/or venue? I imagine we can set up the usual panoply of virtual attendance services for those that wish to participate but can't attend in person. Regards, Ian PS I'm going to be in New York for AAMAS'04 if anyone wants to meet there. |
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-06-07 13:18:18
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A citable copy of the DIG DL reasoner interface report is now online at the HPL tech reports site: http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2004/HPL-2004-85.html Apologies for cross-posting. I suggest follow-up discussion to go to the dig-users list. Regards, Ian _____________________________________________________________________ Ian Dickinson HP Labs, Bristol, UK mailto:ian...@hp... net www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Ian_Dickinson ph +44 (117) 312 8796 |
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From: Gennaro B. <gen...@im...> - 2004-06-03 16:50:47
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Hello everybody, As the subject of my mail explains, I have a problem using the DIG interface for accesing RACER. Let me explain better... What I need to do is accessing an existing ontology by using the DIG interface without be forced to create a new one (newKB) and fill it by using "tells" commands. In my example, I loaded it through the RACER TCP interface by using the following command (daml-read-document "http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1.daml") Now, what URI do I have to use for posing ASK QUERIES through the DIG interface? I asked for it because if I use "http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1" as URI it does not work. This is an example: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <asks xmlns="http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang http://potato.cs.man.ac.uk/dig/level0/dig.xsd" uri="http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1"> <allConceptNames id="q1"/> <allRoleNames id="q2"/> <allIndividuals id="q3"/> </asks> and this is the response HTTP/1.1 100 Continue HTTP/1.1 200 OK content-length: 350 content-type: text/xml server: CL-HTTP/70.180 (LispWorks; 1.8.9) date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:27:31 GMT content-location: http://129.88.39.33:8080/ <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <error message="No such knowledge base known: http://www-lsr.imag.fr/Les.Personnes/Gennaro.Bruno/family1"/> <error message="Cannot handle tag http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang#allConceptNames"/> <error message="Cannot handle tag http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang#allRoleNames"/> <error message="Cannot handle tag http://dl.kr.org/dig/lang#allIndividuals"/> How can I access this KB through the DIG interface? Is this possible? If so what URI do I have to use to access it? Thank you in advance for your answers. Sincerely, Gennaro Bruno |
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From: <ben...@id...> - 2004-05-25 08:15:26
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Dear Open Source developer I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate. You will find the online survey under http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/. The questionnaire consists of 53 questions and you will need about 15 minutes to complete it. With the FASD project (Fun and Software Development) we want to define the motivational significance of fun when software developers decide to engage in Open Source projects. What is special about our research project is that a similar survey is planned with software developers in commercial firms. This procedure allows the immediate comparison between the involved individuals and the conditions of production of these two development models. Thus we hope to obtain substantial new insights to the phenomenon of Open Source Development. With many thanks for your participation, Benno Luthiger PS: The results of the survey will be published under http://www.isu.unizh.ch/fuehrung/blprojects/FASD/. We have set up the mailing list fa...@we... for this study. Please see http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/mailinglist_en.html for registration to this mailing list. _______________________________________________________________________ Benno Luthiger Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich 8092 Zurich Mail: benno.luthiger(at)id.ethz.ch _______________________________________________________________________ |
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-05-20 19:39:26
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Hi all, I'm pleased to announce that the DIG adapter to allow Jena models to be attached to external description logic reasoners reasoners via DIG is now ready for experimental use. At the present time, the code is only available from the Jena CVS at SourceForge (there's no separate download). Noting that anonymous CVS access at SourceForge sometimes lags behind the main repository, please allow time for the final CVS commits to be flushed through (shouldn't be more than a day from the time of this posting, which is 20:30BST on Thurs 20th May). A howto on the new capability is available here: http://jena.sourceforge.net/how-to/dig-reasoner.html Please send questions, comments and suggestions to the jena-dev list. Thanks, Ian _____________________________________________________________________ Ian Dickinson HP Labs, Bristol, UK mailto:ian...@hp... net www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Ian_Dickinson ph +44 (117) 312 8796 |
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-05-19 10:39:17
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Hi Peter, > As someone who was (peripherally) involved in the original > DIG specification, those comments all seem pretty reasonable. > We discussed many of them at the time, and decided that > keeping the spec minimal, and hence simple to implement as a > first version, was a high priority. Now that there's wider > take-up of DIG, it probably makes sense to put the extra > effort into extending the interface and making it rather more > standards-compliant. Thanks for the comments Peter. It's pretty clear that future versions of DIG should continue to strike the balance between getting something useful done quickly and being fully complete and general. Happily, I'm getting to a point where the Jena DIG adapter is available for experimental use. Running against the OWL working group tests, I pass 106 out of 140 or so of the approved OWL-DL and OWL-lite tests (testing against the latest version of Racer). The remainder are either due to limitations in DIG itself, or exceeding Racer's capabilities (e.g. stack overflow on some of the more complex problems). I take from this that DIG 1.1 is a pretty good base to start from, and the work remaining to get it up to the next level of usefulness is relatively modest. Ian |
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From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2004-05-19 09:43:26
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> From: Dickinson, Ian J [mailto:Ian...@hp...]=20 > I have written > up a report of my experiences, which will appear on the HPL=20 > web site soon. > In the meantime I have placed a pre-print copy here: >=20 > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Ian_Dickinson/dig.html As someone who was (peripherally) involved in the original DIG specification, those comments all seem pretty reasonable. We discussed many of them at the time, and decided that keeping the spec minimal, and hence simple to implement as a first version, was a high priority. Now that there's wider take-up of DIG, it probably makes sense to put the extra effort into extending the interface and making it rather more standards-compliant. Mind you, I can say that, I won't be involved in doing the work :-). - Peter |
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From: Dickinson, I. J <Ian...@hp...> - 2004-05-17 21:08:43
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Welcome to all of the new subscribers to this list! Part of the conversation about DIG is a continuation of a discussion that has been ongoing as I have been adding a DIG adapter to Jena. I have written up a report of my experiences, which will appear on the HPL web site soon. In the meantime I have placed a pre-print copy here: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Ian_Dickinson/dig.html Regards, Ian _____________________________________________________________________ Ian Dickinson HP Labs, Bristol, UK mailto:ian...@hp... net www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Ian_Dickinson ph +44 (117) 312 8796 |
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