devmon-support — General Devmon support

[Devmon] Negative values in if_load

[Johann E. <joh...@te...>]

Hi,

on the cisco switches monitored by devmon in the if_load table I have 
sometimes negativ values like this:

-77066719.00 bps (-77.07%)

These values or not persistent. Next cycle the load is calculated 
correct but another port has a negativ value.

This is not bound to a specific device; instead happens on all switches.
So I think there maybe some trouble/glitch with the math arithmetic in a 
module.

Do you have an idea about the root cause of that..?

Regards
Johann

RE: [Devmon] Starting problem

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

Could be a code bug;  could you tarball them and send them to me?

ees2y (at) hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu

Thanks!

-Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Whilding, Craig
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
> Yes I will. Though it may take a while if I cant see what's=20
> causing this
> threshold problem! Normal ones work its just the ones I'm=20
> writing in the
> tables. Will try again tomorrow.
>=20
> Craig
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Dan
> Vande More
> Sent: 06 March 2006 16:27
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
> Are you willing to share that netapp stuff when you're done?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Dan
>=20
> On 3/6/06, Whilding, Craig <Cra...@me...> wrote:
> > Sounds like a good idea.
> >
> > Currently confused as ive copied the cisco if_col template=20
> for NetApp
> > quotas, its showing fine but my thresholds don't appear to be picked
> up.
> >
> >
> > qrPercentUsed is a percent taken from bytesused/bytestotalx100
> >
> > Threshold:
> > qrPercentUsed : red : 80 : WARNING
> >
> > Message:
> > TABLE:
> >=20
> [otherbits]|{qrPercentUsed.color}{qrPercentUsed}{qrPercentUsed.errors}
> >
> > One of the quotas is at 82.59 % and isn't showing up.
> >
> > I don't know why it's not working the same as the network equipment,
> > weird!
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> > Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > Sent: 06 March 2006 15:14
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
> >
> >
> > Well, right now the results of any math calculations (via
> > DELTA or MATH transforms) done by Devmon are rounded to two
> > decimal places.  I might add a 'precision' tag or something
> > similar to either or both of these operations to allow you to
> > get more or less detail as needed.  Right now, if you have a
> > snmp alias that has excessive numbers after the decimal place,
> > you can lop them off by doing a MATH transform on the alias.
> > So, if you have an alias {tooManyNumbers} with a value of
> > 11.324125, this transform:
> >
> > {lessNumbers} : MATH : {tooManyNumbers}
> >
> > will round it down to 11.32 and store it in the "lessNumbers"
> > alias.
> >
> > Actually, I just had a thought;  what about making the MATH
> > and DELTA aliases not round at all, and then added a separate
> > ROUND transform or somesuch that would allow people to round
> > their values to whatever they liked?  That would probably be
> > the easiest way of implementing a round transform, but it
> > would also mean that all current templates would have to be
> > updated, as their rounding would go away.
> >
> > -Eric Schwimmer
> > Network Engineer
> > UVA HSCS Network Engineering
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > Of Whilding, Craig
> > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:47 AM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
> > >
> > > Oops, hadn't noticed the new version, have replaced the files and
> its
> > > working fine now cheers.
> > >
> > > Just power, our cards don't have env abilities (I'm currently
> > > monitoring
> > > the Battery temp as a poor mans alternative).
> > >
> > > Ah thanks, ill use that switch to avoid having to put the=20
> dhcp test
> > > under Windows PC defaults. The exceptions file will help me
> > > get around a
> > > problem I have with disabled ranges warning as they have no free
> > > addresses.
> > >
> > > Im currently sorting my NetApp quota and vol templates and
> > > was wondering
> > > how I can display a number to 2dp for example.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the excellent work.
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> > > Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > > Sent: 06 March 2006 14:29
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Regarding the 'ioctl' error; are you using the latest version
> > > of Devmon?  Specifically, line 1964 of modules/dm_config.pm
> > > should read:
> > >
> > > if(defined($pid =3D fork)) {
> > >
> > > as opposed to:
> > >
> > > if(my $pid =3D fork) {
> > >
> > >
> > > As to the power templates; the 9609 templates work on the APC
> > > 9617 card?  Both power and env?  If so, I'll copy them over
> > > (and thanks for letting me know :)
> > >
> > > And autodiscovery of devices depends on their contents of
> > > the SNMP SysDescr.0 string; which is matched against the
> > > contents of the 'sysdesc' field in the model's specs file.
> > > You can override autodetection, however, by using the
> > > 'model' tag in the bb-hosts file;  please see the USING
> > > document for further info (if it isnt in there, please
> > > get the latest version of devmon).
> > >
> > > -Eric
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > > Of Whilding, Craig
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:24 AM
> > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > Subject: [Devmon] Starting problem
> > > >
> > > > Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a
> > > > few Perl scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f
> > > > switch but without this I am also getting "Can't fork:
> > > > Inappropriate ioctl for device" Forking to background process
> > > > *****". This is on RHEL3 again.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a
> > > > model 9617 as this is what all my management card equipped
> > > > UPS's show as so it might be a popular one (?). They are 3000
> > > > and 5000 models.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as
> > > > a certain type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp
> > > > addresses on Windows boxes. If it just looks up model there
> > > > Is nothing special about this box. Im not sure how I can get
> > > > around this but I would need to put an exception in for all
> > > > other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to show dhcp
> > > > free addresses for them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Keep up the good work though :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Craig Whilding
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> > > language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media.=20
> Attend the live
> > > webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> > > territory!
> > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > > coding territory!
> > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> > language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> > webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> > territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Starting problem

[Whilding, C. <Cra...@me...>]

Yes I will. Though it may take a while if I cant see what's causing this
threshold problem! Normal ones work its just the ones I'm writing in the
tables. Will try again tomorrow.

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Dan
Vande More
Sent: 06 March 2006 16:27
To: dev...@li...
Subject: Re: [Devmon] Starting problem

Are you willing to share that netapp stuff when you're done?

Thanks

Dan

On 3/6/06, Whilding, Craig <Cra...@me...> wrote:
> Sounds like a good idea.
>
> Currently confused as ive copied the cisco if_col template for NetApp
> quotas, its showing fine but my thresholds don't appear to be picked
up.
>
>
> qrPercentUsed is a percent taken from bytesused/bytestotalx100
>
> Threshold:
> qrPercentUsed : red : 80 : WARNING
>
> Message:
> TABLE:
> [otherbits]|{qrPercentUsed.color}{qrPercentUsed}{qrPercentUsed.errors}
>
> One of the quotas is at 82.59 % and isn't showing up.
>
> I don't know why it's not working the same as the network equipment,
> weird!
>
> Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: 06 March 2006 15:14
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
>
>
> Well, right now the results of any math calculations (via
> DELTA or MATH transforms) done by Devmon are rounded to two
> decimal places.  I might add a 'precision' tag or something
> similar to either or both of these operations to allow you to
> get more or less detail as needed.  Right now, if you have a
> snmp alias that has excessive numbers after the decimal place,
> you can lop them off by doing a MATH transform on the alias.
> So, if you have an alias {tooManyNumbers} with a value of
> 11.324125, this transform:
>
> {lessNumbers} : MATH : {tooManyNumbers}
>
> will round it down to 11.32 and store it in the "lessNumbers"
> alias.
>
> Actually, I just had a thought;  what about making the MATH
> and DELTA aliases not round at all, and then added a separate
> ROUND transform or somesuch that would allow people to round
> their values to whatever they liked?  That would probably be
> the easiest way of implementing a round transform, but it
> would also mean that all current templates would have to be
> updated, as their rounding would go away.
>
> -Eric Schwimmer
> Network Engineer
> UVA HSCS Network Engineering
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > Of Whilding, Craig
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:47 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
> >
> > Oops, hadn't noticed the new version, have replaced the files and
its
> > working fine now cheers.
> >
> > Just power, our cards don't have env abilities (I'm currently
> > monitoring
> > the Battery temp as a poor mans alternative).
> >
> > Ah thanks, ill use that switch to avoid having to put the dhcp test
> > under Windows PC defaults. The exceptions file will help me
> > get around a
> > problem I have with disabled ranges warning as they have no free
> > addresses.
> >
> > Im currently sorting my NetApp quota and vol templates and
> > was wondering
> > how I can display a number to 2dp for example.
> >
> > Thanks for the excellent work.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> > Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > Sent: 06 March 2006 14:29
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
> >
> >
> > Regarding the 'ioctl' error; are you using the latest version
> > of Devmon?  Specifically, line 1964 of modules/dm_config.pm
> > should read:
> >
> > if(defined($pid =3D fork)) {
> >
> > as opposed to:
> >
> > if(my $pid =3D fork) {
> >
> >
> > As to the power templates; the 9609 templates work on the APC
> > 9617 card?  Both power and env?  If so, I'll copy them over
> > (and thanks for letting me know :)
> >
> > And autodiscovery of devices depends on their contents of
> > the SNMP SysDescr.0 string; which is matched against the
> > contents of the 'sysdesc' field in the model's specs file.
> > You can override autodetection, however, by using the
> > 'model' tag in the bb-hosts file;  please see the USING
> > document for further info (if it isnt in there, please
> > get the latest version of devmon).
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > Of Whilding, Craig
> > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:24 AM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: [Devmon] Starting problem
> > >
> > > Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a
> > > few Perl scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f
> > > switch but without this I am also getting "Can't fork:
> > > Inappropriate ioctl for device" Forking to background process
> > > *****". This is on RHEL3 again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a
> > > model 9617 as this is what all my management card equipped
> > > UPS's show as so it might be a popular one (?). They are 3000
> > > and 5000 models.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as
> > > a certain type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp
> > > addresses on Windows boxes. If it just looks up model there
> > > Is nothing special about this box. Im not sure how I can get
> > > around this but I would need to put an exception in for all
> > > other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to show dhcp
> > > free addresses for them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Keep up the good work though :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig Whilding
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> > language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> > webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> > territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>


-------------------------------------------------------
This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
language
that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
webcast
and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
territory!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
_______________________________________________
Devmon-support mailing list
Dev...@li...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support

Re: [Devmon] Starting problem

[Dan V. M. <bi...@gm...>]

Are you willing to share that netapp stuff when you're done?

Thanks

Dan

On 3/6/06, Whilding, Craig <Cra...@me...> wrote:
> Sounds like a good idea.
>
> Currently confused as ive copied the cisco if_col template for NetApp
> quotas, its showing fine but my thresholds don't appear to be picked up.
>
>
> qrPercentUsed is a percent taken from bytesused/bytestotalx100
>
> Threshold:
> qrPercentUsed : red : 80 : WARNING
>
> Message:
> TABLE:
> [otherbits]|{qrPercentUsed.color}{qrPercentUsed}{qrPercentUsed.errors}
>
> One of the quotas is at 82.59 % and isn't showing up.
>
> I don't know why it's not working the same as the network equipment,
> weird!
>
> Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: 06 March 2006 15:14
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
>
>
> Well, right now the results of any math calculations (via
> DELTA or MATH transforms) done by Devmon are rounded to two
> decimal places.  I might add a 'precision' tag or something
> similar to either or both of these operations to allow you to
> get more or less detail as needed.  Right now, if you have a
> snmp alias that has excessive numbers after the decimal place,
> you can lop them off by doing a MATH transform on the alias.
> So, if you have an alias {tooManyNumbers} with a value of
> 11.324125, this transform:
>
> {lessNumbers} : MATH : {tooManyNumbers}
>
> will round it down to 11.32 and store it in the "lessNumbers"
> alias.
>
> Actually, I just had a thought;  what about making the MATH
> and DELTA aliases not round at all, and then added a separate
> ROUND transform or somesuch that would allow people to round
> their values to whatever they liked?  That would probably be
> the easiest way of implementing a round transform, but it
> would also mean that all current templates would have to be
> updated, as their rounding would go away.
>
> -Eric Schwimmer
> Network Engineer
> UVA HSCS Network Engineering
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > Of Whilding, Craig
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:47 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
> >
> > Oops, hadn't noticed the new version, have replaced the files and its
> > working fine now cheers.
> >
> > Just power, our cards don't have env abilities (I'm currently
> > monitoring
> > the Battery temp as a poor mans alternative).
> >
> > Ah thanks, ill use that switch to avoid having to put the dhcp test
> > under Windows PC defaults. The exceptions file will help me
> > get around a
> > problem I have with disabled ranges warning as they have no free
> > addresses.
> >
> > Im currently sorting my NetApp quota and vol templates and
> > was wondering
> > how I can display a number to 2dp for example.
> >
> > Thanks for the excellent work.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> > Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > Sent: 06 March 2006 14:29
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
> >
> >
> > Regarding the 'ioctl' error; are you using the latest version
> > of Devmon?  Specifically, line 1964 of modules/dm_config.pm
> > should read:
> >
> > if(defined($pid =3D fork)) {
> >
> > as opposed to:
> >
> > if(my $pid =3D fork) {
> >
> >
> > As to the power templates; the 9609 templates work on the APC
> > 9617 card?  Both power and env?  If so, I'll copy them over
> > (and thanks for letting me know :)
> >
> > And autodiscovery of devices depends on their contents of
> > the SNMP SysDescr.0 string; which is matched against the
> > contents of the 'sysdesc' field in the model's specs file.
> > You can override autodetection, however, by using the
> > 'model' tag in the bb-hosts file;  please see the USING
> > document for further info (if it isnt in there, please
> > get the latest version of devmon).
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > Of Whilding, Craig
> > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:24 AM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: [Devmon] Starting problem
> > >
> > > Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a
> > > few Perl scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f
> > > switch but without this I am also getting "Can't fork:
> > > Inappropriate ioctl for device" Forking to background process
> > > *****". This is on RHEL3 again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a
> > > model 9617 as this is what all my management card equipped
> > > UPS's show as so it might be a popular one (?). They are 3000
> > > and 5000 models.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as
> > > a certain type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp
> > > addresses on Windows boxes. If it just looks up model there
> > > Is nothing special about this box. Im not sure how I can get
> > > around this but I would need to put an exception in for all
> > > other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to show dhcp
> > > free addresses for them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Keep up the good work though :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig Whilding
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> > language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> > webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> > territory!
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > coding territory!
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua=
ge
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc=
ast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor=
y!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>

RE: [Devmon] Starting problem

[Whilding, C. <Cra...@me...>]

Sounds like a good idea.

Currently confused as ive copied the cisco if_col template for NetApp
quotas, its showing fine but my thresholds don't appear to be picked up.


qrPercentUsed is a percent taken from bytesused/bytestotalx100

Threshold:
qrPercentUsed : red : 80 : WARNING

Message:=20
TABLE:
[otherbits]|{qrPercentUsed.color}{qrPercentUsed}{qrPercentUsed.errors}

One of the quotas is at 82.59 % and isn't showing up.

I don't know why it's not working the same as the network equipment,
weird!

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
Sent: 06 March 2006 15:14
To: dev...@li...
Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem


Well, right now the results of any math calculations (via=20
DELTA or MATH transforms) done by Devmon are rounded to two
decimal places.  I might add a 'precision' tag or something
similar to either or both of these operations to allow you to
get more or less detail as needed.  Right now, if you have a=20
snmp alias that has excessive numbers after the decimal place,
you can lop them off by doing a MATH transform on the alias.
So, if you have an alias {tooManyNumbers} with a value of
11.324125, this transform:

{lessNumbers} : MATH : {tooManyNumbers}

will round it down to 11.32 and store it in the "lessNumbers"
alias.

Actually, I just had a thought;  what about making the MATH
and DELTA aliases not round at all, and then added a separate
ROUND transform or somesuch that would allow people to round
their values to whatever they liked?  That would probably be
the easiest way of implementing a round transform, but it
would also mean that all current templates would have to be
updated, as their rounding would go away.

-Eric Schwimmer
Network Engineer
UVA HSCS Network Engineering =20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Whilding, Craig
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
> Oops, hadn't noticed the new version, have replaced the files and its
> working fine now cheers.
>=20
> Just power, our cards don't have env abilities (I'm currently=20
> monitoring
> the Battery temp as a poor mans alternative).=20
>=20
> Ah thanks, ill use that switch to avoid having to put the dhcp test
> under Windows PC defaults. The exceptions file will help me=20
> get around a
> problem I have with disabled ranges warning as they have no free
> addresses.
>=20
> Im currently sorting my NetApp quota and vol templates and=20
> was wondering
> how I can display a number to 2dp for example.
>=20
> Thanks for the excellent work.
>=20
>=20
> Craig=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: 06 March 2006 14:29
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
>=20
> Regarding the 'ioctl' error; are you using the latest version
> of Devmon?  Specifically, line 1964 of modules/dm_config.pm
> should read:
>=20
> if(defined($pid =3D fork)) {
>=20
> as opposed to:
>=20
> if(my $pid =3D fork) {
>=20
>=20
> As to the power templates; the 9609 templates work on the APC=20
> 9617 card?  Both power and env?  If so, I'll copy them over=20
> (and thanks for letting me know :)
>=20
> And autodiscovery of devices depends on their contents of=20
> the SNMP SysDescr.0 string; which is matched against the=20
> contents of the 'sysdesc' field in the model's specs file.
> You can override autodetection, however, by using the=20
> 'model' tag in the bb-hosts file;  please see the USING
> document for further info (if it isnt in there, please=20
> get the latest version of devmon).
>=20
> -Eric
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...=20
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Whilding, Craig
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:24 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: [Devmon] Starting problem
> >=20
> > Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a=20
> > few Perl scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f=20
> > switch but without this I am also getting "Can't fork:=20
> > Inappropriate ioctl for device" Forking to background process=20
> > *****". This is on RHEL3 again.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a=20
> > model 9617 as this is what all my management card equipped=20
> > UPS's show as so it might be a popular one (?). They are 3000=20
> > and 5000 models.=20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as=20
> > a certain type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp=20
> > addresses on Windows boxes. If it just looks up model there=20
> > Is nothing special about this box. Im not sure how I can get=20
> > around this but I would need to put an exception in for all=20
> > other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to show dhcp=20
> > free addresses for them.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Keep up the good work though :-)
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Craig Whilding
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20


-------------------------------------------------------
This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
language
that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
webcast
and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
territory!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
_______________________________________________
Devmon-support mailing list
Dev...@li...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support

RE: [Devmon] Starting problem

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

Well, right now the results of any math calculations (via=20
DELTA or MATH transforms) done by Devmon are rounded to two
decimal places.  I might add a 'precision' tag or something
similar to either or both of these operations to allow you to
get more or less detail as needed.  Right now, if you have a=20
snmp alias that has excessive numbers after the decimal place,
you can lop them off by doing a MATH transform on the alias.
So, if you have an alias {tooManyNumbers} with a value of
11.324125, this transform:

{lessNumbers} : MATH : {tooManyNumbers}

will round it down to 11.32 and store it in the "lessNumbers"
alias.

Actually, I just had a thought;  what about making the MATH
and DELTA aliases not round at all, and then added a separate
ROUND transform or somesuch that would allow people to round
their values to whatever they liked?  That would probably be
the easiest way of implementing a round transform, but it
would also mean that all current templates would have to be
updated, as their rounding would go away.

-Eric Schwimmer
Network Engineer
UVA HSCS Network Engineering =20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Whilding, Craig
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
> Oops, hadn't noticed the new version, have replaced the files and its
> working fine now cheers.
>=20
> Just power, our cards don't have env abilities (I'm currently=20
> monitoring
> the Battery temp as a poor mans alternative).=20
>=20
> Ah thanks, ill use that switch to avoid having to put the dhcp test
> under Windows PC defaults. The exceptions file will help me=20
> get around a
> problem I have with disabled ranges warning as they have no free
> addresses.
>=20
> Im currently sorting my NetApp quota and vol templates and=20
> was wondering
> how I can display a number to 2dp for example.
>=20
> Thanks for the excellent work.
>=20
>=20
> Craig=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
> Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: 06 March 2006 14:29
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
>=20
> Regarding the 'ioctl' error; are you using the latest version
> of Devmon?  Specifically, line 1964 of modules/dm_config.pm
> should read:
>=20
> if(defined($pid =3D fork)) {
>=20
> as opposed to:
>=20
> if(my $pid =3D fork) {
>=20
>=20
> As to the power templates; the 9609 templates work on the APC=20
> 9617 card?  Both power and env?  If so, I'll copy them over=20
> (and thanks for letting me know :)
>=20
> And autodiscovery of devices depends on their contents of=20
> the SNMP SysDescr.0 string; which is matched against the=20
> contents of the 'sysdesc' field in the model's specs file.
> You can override autodetection, however, by using the=20
> 'model' tag in the bb-hosts file;  please see the USING
> document for further info (if it isnt in there, please=20
> get the latest version of devmon).
>=20
> -Eric
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...=20
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Whilding, Craig
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:24 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: [Devmon] Starting problem
> >=20
> > Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a=20
> > few Perl scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f=20
> > switch but without this I am also getting "Can't fork:=20
> > Inappropriate ioctl for device" Forking to background process=20
> > *****". This is on RHEL3 again.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a=20
> > model 9617 as this is what all my management card equipped=20
> > UPS's show as so it might be a popular one (?). They are 3000=20
> > and 5000 models.=20
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as=20
> > a certain type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp=20
> > addresses on Windows boxes. If it just looks up model there=20
> > Is nothing special about this box. Im not sure how I can get=20
> > around this but I would need to put an exception in for all=20
> > other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to show dhcp=20
> > free addresses for them.
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Keep up the good work though :-)
> >=20
> > =20
> >=20
> > Craig Whilding
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
> language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
> webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
> territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Starting problem

[Whilding, C. <Cra...@me...>]

Oops, hadn't noticed the new version, have replaced the files and its
working fine now cheers.

Just power, our cards don't have env abilities (I'm currently monitoring
the Battery temp as a poor mans alternative).=20

Ah thanks, ill use that switch to avoid having to put the dhcp test
under Windows PC defaults. The exceptions file will help me get around a
problem I have with disabled ranges warning as they have no free
addresses.

Im currently sorting my NetApp quota and vol templates and was wondering
how I can display a number to 2dp for example.

Thanks for the excellent work.


Craig=20

-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of
Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
Sent: 06 March 2006 14:29
To: dev...@li...
Subject: RE: [Devmon] Starting problem


Regarding the 'ioctl' error; are you using the latest version
of Devmon?  Specifically, line 1964 of modules/dm_config.pm
should read:

if(defined($pid =3D fork)) {

as opposed to:

if(my $pid =3D fork) {


As to the power templates; the 9609 templates work on the APC=20
9617 card?  Both power and env?  If so, I'll copy them over=20
(and thanks for letting me know :)

And autodiscovery of devices depends on their contents of=20
the SNMP SysDescr.0 string; which is matched against the=20
contents of the 'sysdesc' field in the model's specs file.
You can override autodetection, however, by using the=20
'model' tag in the bb-hosts file;  please see the USING
document for further info (if it isnt in there, please=20
get the latest version of devmon).

-Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Whilding, Craig
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
> Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a=20
> few Perl scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f=20
> switch but without this I am also getting "Can't fork:=20
> Inappropriate ioctl for device" Forking to background process=20
> *****". This is on RHEL3 again.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a=20
> model 9617 as this is what all my management card equipped=20
> UPS's show as so it might be a popular one (?). They are 3000=20
> and 5000 models.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as=20
> a certain type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp=20
> addresses on Windows boxes. If it just looks up model there=20
> Is nothing special about this box. Im not sure how I can get=20
> around this but I would need to put an exception in for all=20
> other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to show dhcp=20
> free addresses for them.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Keep up the good work though :-)
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Craig Whilding
>=20
>=20


-------------------------------------------------------
This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting
language
that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live
webcast
and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding
territory!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
_______________________________________________
Devmon-support mailing list
Dev...@li...
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support

RE: [Devmon] Starting problem

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

Regarding the 'ioctl' error; are you using the latest version
of Devmon?  Specifically, line 1964 of modules/dm_config.pm
should read:

if(defined($pid =3D fork)) {

as opposed to:

if(my $pid =3D fork) {


As to the power templates; the 9609 templates work on the APC=20
9617 card?  Both power and env?  If so, I'll copy them over=20
(and thanks for letting me know :)

And autodiscovery of devices depends on their contents of=20
the SNMP SysDescr.0 string; which is matched against the=20
contents of the 'sysdesc' field in the model's specs file.
You can override autodetection, however, by using the=20
'model' tag in the bb-hosts file;  please see the USING
document for further info (if it isnt in there, please=20
get the latest version of devmon).

-Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Whilding, Craig
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: [Devmon] Starting problem
>=20
> Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a=20
> few Perl scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f=20
> switch but without this I am also getting "Can't fork:=20
> Inappropriate ioctl for device" Forking to background process=20
> *****". This is on RHEL3 again.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a=20
> model 9617 as this is what all my management card equipped=20
> UPS's show as so it might be a popular one (?). They are 3000=20
> and 5000 models.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as=20
> a certain type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp=20
> addresses on Windows boxes. If it just looks up model there=20
> Is nothing special about this box. Im not sure how I can get=20
> around this but I would need to put an exception in for all=20
> other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to show dhcp=20
> free addresses for them.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Keep up the good work though :-)
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Craig Whilding
>=20
>=20

[Devmon] Starting problem

[Whilding, C. <Cra...@me...>]

Excellent hobbit enhancement which will get rid of quite a few Perl
scripts when I've finished writing all the templates.

=20

I have been running it as a foreground process with the -f switch but
without this I am also getting "Can't fork: Inappropriate ioctl for
device" Forking to background process *****". This is on RHEL3 again.

=20

For APC UPS's you may want to copy the power stuff over to a model 9617
as this is what all my management card equipped UPS's show as so it
might be a popular one (?). They are 3000 and 5000 models.=20

=20

A problem I now have though is how devices are discovered as a certain
type. I have a script that monitors free dhcp addresses on Windows
boxes. If it just looks up model there Is nothing special about this
box. Im not sure how I can get around this but I would need to put an
exception in for all other windows boxes I monitor so it doesn't try to
show dhcp free addresses for them.

=20

Keep up the good work though :-)

=20

Craig Whilding

Re: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE

[Dan V. M. <bi...@gm...>]

Reading my mind. I was actually on the same page as that would be a
perfect way to do NCV with hobbit. You could simply set your put these
lines on the bottom of your message template file:

NONHTMLTABLE:
<!-- NCV -->
<!-- ifInLoad : {ifInLoad} -->

NONHTMLTABLE:
<!-- NCV -->
<!-- ifOutLoad : {ifOutLoad} -->

And do your appropriate configuration in hobbit and just like that,
you'll be graphing.

I am eager to see this feature as well.

Thanks

Dan

On 3/3/06, Schwimmer, Eric E *HS <EE...@hs...> wrote:
>
> Ah yes.  We suffer the same problem /w textualized html alert emails.
> I wouldn't mind implementing textual tables in devmon (it would be
> rather trivial to do) but I'm already sensitive about how long
> it takes to perform the test logic (way too long, imho, and I
> havent found a good way to revamp the whole template process
> that would generate a worthy speed increase).
>
> I'll put it on my project list after the trending :)
>
> -Eric Schwimmer
> Network Engin
> UVA HSCS Network Engineering
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:14 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
> >
> > I guess anyway to get a 'pure' text table would be expensive. Whether
> > sprintf was used or space padding the columns manually..  i.e " " x
> > ($ColSize - len($DataSize)).
> >
> > Some of my biasness aginst the HTML, is the BB alert emails we get are
> > not very pleasant to read since the emails are text format. And I am
> > just anticipating once I get these spiffy new devices
> > monitored, and the
> > pretty reports. Requests for trending will soon follow. Guess I could
> > have my larrd script filter out the HTML first...
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:54 AM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would this be for multi column formats?  If so, would they
> > > have to be aligned?  that many sprintf statements would be
> > expensive.
> > >
> > > -Eric
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:46 AM
> > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > Subject: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
> > > >
> > > > I was curious if there is a non-HTML TABLE format.  Some of
> > > > the reports
> > > > I do, it is prefered not to do it with a HTML table. If not,
> > > > I would be
> > > > happy to put something together.  I can just peak at your
> > > code for how
> > > > the existing TABLE format is generated.
> > > >
> > > > General format I would think for a TABLETXT format would to
> > > > loop through
> > > > headers & row data text sizes to come up with the maximum
> > > > column length.
> > > > The generate the text table with a '-------' line between
> > > > header & data
> > > > rows.
> > > >
> > > > Steven
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > > scripting language
> > > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > > > the live webcast
> > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > > > coding territory!
> > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121=
642
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > > Dev...@li...
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > > coding territory!
> > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=12164=
2
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > coding territory!
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua=
ge
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc=
ast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor=
y!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>

RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

Ah yes.  We suffer the same problem /w textualized html alert emails.
I wouldn't mind implementing textual tables in devmon (it would be=20
rather trivial to do) but I'm already sensitive about how long
it takes to perform the test logic (way too long, imho, and I=20
havent found a good way to revamp the whole template process
that would generate a worthy speed increase).

I'll put it on my project list after the trending :)

-Eric Schwimmer
Network Engin
UVA HSCS Network Engineering =20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:14 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
>=20
> I guess anyway to get a 'pure' text table would be expensive. Whether
> sprintf was used or space padding the columns manually..  i.e " " x
> ($ColSize - len($DataSize)).
>=20
> Some of my biasness aginst the HTML, is the BB alert emails we get are
> not very pleasant to read since the emails are text format. And I am
> just anticipating once I get these spiffy new devices=20
> monitored, and the
> pretty reports. Requests for trending will soon follow. Guess I could
> have my larrd script filter out the HTML first...=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...=20
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:54 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Would this be for multi column formats?  If so, would they
> > have to be aligned?  that many sprintf statements would be=20
> expensive.
> >=20
> > -Eric=20
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:46 AM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
> > >=20
> > > I was curious if there is a non-HTML TABLE format.  Some of
> > > the reports
> > > I do, it is prefered not to do it with a HTML table. If not,=20
> > > I would be
> > > happy to put something together.  I can just peak at your=20
> > code for how
> > > the existing TABLE format is generated.
> > >=20
> > > General format I would think for a TABLETXT format would to
> > > loop through
> > > headers & row data text sizes to come up with the maximum=20
> > > column length.
> > > The generate the text table with a '-------' line between=20
> > > header & data
> > > rows.
> > >=20
> > > Steven
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > > coding territory!
> > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE

[Aiello, S. \(G. C. consultant\) <ste...@ge...>]

I guess anyway to get a 'pure' text table would be expensive. Whether
sprintf was used or space padding the columns manually..  i.e " " x
($ColSize - len($DataSize)).

Some of my biasness aginst the HTML, is the BB alert emails we get are
not very pleasant to read since the emails are text format. And I am
just anticipating once I get these spiffy new devices monitored, and the
pretty reports. Requests for trending will soon follow. Guess I could
have my larrd script filter out the HTML first...=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:54 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Would this be for multi column formats?  If so, would they
> have to be aligned?  that many sprintf statements would be expensive.
>=20
> -Eric=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:46 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
> >=20
> > I was curious if there is a non-HTML TABLE format.  Some of
> > the reports
> > I do, it is prefered not to do it with a HTML table. If not,=20
> > I would be
> > happy to put something together.  I can just peak at your=20
> code for how
> > the existing TABLE format is generated.
> >=20
> > General format I would think for a TABLETXT format would to
> > loop through
> > headers & row data text sizes to come up with the maximum=20
> > column length.
> > The generate the text table with a '-------' line between=20
> > header & data
> > rows.
> >=20
> > Steven
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

Would this be for multi column formats?  If so, would they
have to be aligned?  that many sprintf statements would be
expensive.

-Eric=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: [Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE
>=20
> I was curious if there is a non-HTML TABLE format.  Some of=20
> the reports
> I do, it is prefered not to do it with a HTML table. If not,=20
> I would be
> happy to put something together.  I can just peak at your code for how
> the existing TABLE format is generated.
>=20
> General format I would think for a TABLETXT format would to=20
> loop through
> headers & row data text sizes to come up with the maximum=20
> column length.
> The generate the text table with a '-------' line between=20
> header & data
> rows.
>=20
> Steven
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

[Devmon] Templates: Message - TABLE

[Aiello, S. \(G. C. consultant\) <ste...@ge...>]

I was curious if there is a non-HTML TABLE format.  Some of the reports
I do, it is prefered not to do it with a HTML table. If not, I would be
happy to put something together.  I can just peak at your code for how
the existing TABLE format is generated.

General format I would think for a TABLETXT format would to loop through
headers & row data text sizes to come up with the maximum column length.
The generate the text table with a '-------' line between header & data
rows.

Steven

RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

FYI for the rest of you all, this was a bug in Storable.pm, but
we worked around it by include the module that failed to=20
autoload in the dm_snmp.pl file

-Eric Schwimmer
Network Engineer
UVA HSCS Network Engineering =20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
>=20
> Hmmm  means I need to upgrade my perl rpm.  Right now I am running,
> perl-5.8.0-88.9 and that provides the Storable.pm
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...=20
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:56 PM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hrm, I'm running Storable 2.13.
> >=20
> > Does this happen reliably (i.e. any time you query that oid)?
> >=20
> > This might be fixed by upgrading your Storable.pm, could you=20
> > try that? (perl -MCPAN -e "install 'Storable'")
> >=20
> > -Eric
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:18 PM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> > >=20
> > > -bash-2.05b$ perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
> > > 2.06 at -e line 1.
> > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > > > Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:02 PM
> > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > I can't reproduce it yet.
> > > >=20
> > > > Could you run this for me:
> > > >=20
> > > > perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
> > > >=20
> > > > and let me know what it prints out?
> > > >=20
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Eric
> > > >=20
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > > > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:58 AM
> > > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > > Subject: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Know of any issue when polling a counter64 stat ? =20
> > Still playing=20
> > > > > with my BigIP, when I add the line to my oids file
> > > > >=20
> > > > > sysTmTotal      : .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.41.0      : leaf
> > > > >=20
> > > > > and I run "./devmon -vvvv -f" I get:
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Cannot restore overloading on HASH(0x8f69814) (package
> > > > > Math::BigInt) at
> > > > > ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into
> > > > ../../lib/auto/Storable/thaw.al)
> > > > > line 358, <$__ANONIO__> line 21, at=20
> > > > > /data/BB/devmon-dev/modules/dm_snmp.pm line 176
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a=20
> > groundbreaking scripting=20
> > > > > language that extends applications into web and mobile media.=20
> > > > > Attend the live webcast
> > > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > > > > coding territory!
> > > > >=20
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > > > Dev...@li...
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > > > scripting language
> > > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > > > the live webcast
> > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > > > coding territory!
> > > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > > Dev...@li...
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > > coding territory!
> > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

[Devmon] NCV Support

[Dan V. M. <bi...@gm...>]

Is hobbit/NCV support in devmon on the drawing board? I'd like to get
some of these things in graphs (temp, if_load), and it doesn't seem
like it'd be that hard to do it.

How likely does it look?

Thanks

Dan

[Devmon] Adding an interface for a single host to be alarmed

[<PN...@ci...>]

Okay,
 I want to add fa0/1 to be one of the ports alarmed for, in addition to the
standard gi0/[1-2]

Would I do:
DEVMON:except(all;ifName;ao:Gi0/[1-2]|Fa0/1)

or 

DEVMON:except(all;ifName;ao:Fa0/1)

--Pat

Re: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me with insanity!

[Dan V. M. <bi...@gm...>]

Hmm, it appears I was wrong (or right, actually). On the instructions
I gave you, I never said I restarted the devmon server - though I'm
pretty sure I did. Anyway, I killed them all again, started it, and it
appears to all be working now. Sorry I didn't catch that email from
before, as I would have upgraded and this wouldn't have been a
problem.

Thanks

Dan

On 3/2/06, Schwimmer, Eric E *HS <EE...@hs...> wrote:
>
> And actually, you really shouldn't have a value that high unless
> one of 3 things occurs :
>
> 1) You are delta transforming on a 64bit oid that has wrapped
> 2) You are delta transforming an already transformed 32bit oid,
>    without specifying a viable upper-limit
> 3) Theres a yet another bug in the Devmon code.
>
> Could you send me the contents of your 7609 if_load oid and
> transforms files?
>
> -Eric
>
> p.s. I've noticed that lately I've really been digging the
> numbered lists.  Has anybody else noticed this? :)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:49 PM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me
> > with insanity!
> >
> >
> > Could have something to do with it, but as long as they don't roll
> > more than once per polling interval, we should be okay.  What do
> > you have your polling interval set for?
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > Of Dan Vande More
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:09 PM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: Re: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me
> > > with insanity!
> > >
> > > Nope, didn't seem to fix it. Though I was running the
> > newest version,
> > > I downloaded it again, rm -r'd the old dir, killed the devmons, tar
> > > -zxvf'd the new one and cp'd the .cfg back over. I then copied the
> > > cisco-6509 to cisco-7609 and changed the spec file.
> > >
> > > It's still saying stuff like "297528.13 Tbps (297528129.95%)".
> > >
> > > I wonder, could the fact that my counters roll over every 2
> > minutes be
> > > the cause?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On 3/2/06, Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > > <EE...@hs...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Insanity reigns! Yay!
> > > >
> > > > This is almost certainly a counter-wrap bug.  What
> > > > version of devmon are you using, and could you please tell
> > > > me the size of your modules/dm_tests.pm file?  I believe
> > > > the "latest and greatest" has as file size of 66279.
> > > >
> > > > I also had to update many of the templates to fix this
> > > > counter-wrap bug (if_err, if_dsc and if_load, specifically).
> > > > Check to make sure you are doing the DELTA transform on
> > > > un-transformed data (i.e. ifInOctets and not ifInBits).  If
> > > > you aren't, then you can either download the latest tarball
> > > > from sourceforge and get the fixed templates from there,
> > > > or edit them by hand (in case you made changes that you want
> > > > to preserve).
> > > >
> > > > There was an email a yesterday (titled 'RE: [Devmon] Beta 0.1.1
> > > > incorrect load reported') that covered the specifics of who,
> > > > what, when, where and whys of this whole thing.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the insanity :)
> > > >
> > > > -Eric
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > > > Of Dan Vande More
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:33 AM
> > > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > > Subject: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me
> > > with insanity!
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got devmon working fairly well, except I'm having
> > some issues
> > > > > with what appears to be just 7609/Cisco GSRs.
> > > > >
> > > > > They are interconnected two each other via a 1gbps
> > fibre link, and
> > > > > their interfaces often go red with devmon, and show the
> > following:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gi2/2 [L3 conn to 7609-2]     1.00 Gbps       green 99.71
> > > > > Mbps (0.10%)  red
> > > > > 323627.09 Tbps (323627088.71%)
> > > > >
> > > > > Whoa! I'm not complaing about that much speed, but I'm
> > > pretty sure I
> > > > > don't have it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On a connection similiar to that one, it's perfectly reasonable:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gi2/1 [iBGP Link to 7609-2t]  1.00 Gbps       green 22.83
> > > > > Mbps (0.02%)  green
> > > > > 18.80 Mbps (0.02%)
> > > > >
> > > > > (The percentages are off, but I can fix that.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Then, I have a crazy OC12 Connection:
> > > > >
> > > > > PO5/0 [Sprint OC12]   622.00 Mbps     green 307445.73 Tbps
> > > > > (494285746.27%)       green 32.70 Mbps (0.05%)
> > > > >
> > > > > Wowzers!
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a perfectly sane OC12 below it:
> > > > >
> > > > > PO6/0 [ATT OC12]      622.00 Mbps     green 171.85 Mbps
> > > > > (0.28%)       green 99.28 Mbps (0.16%)
> > > > >
> > > > > So that leads me to believe that my setup/transforms/etc
> > > are fine, as
> > > > > 50% of them seem sane. Any hints on where I can look for issues?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > > > scripting language
> > > > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > > > > the live webcast
> > > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > > > > coding territory!
> > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=
=121642
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > > > Dev...@li...
> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > scripting language
> > > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > > the live webcast
> > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > > coding territory!
> > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=1216=
42
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > > Dev...@li...
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > > coding territory!
> > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=12164=
2
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > coding territory!
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua=
ge
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc=
ast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor=
y!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>

RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat

[Aiello, S. \(G. C. consultant\) <ste...@ge...>]

Hmmm  means I need to upgrade my perl rpm.  Right now I am running,
perl-5.8.0-88.9 and that provides the Storable.pm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:56 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Hrm, I'm running Storable 2.13.
>=20
> Does this happen reliably (i.e. any time you query that oid)?
>=20
> This might be fixed by upgrading your Storable.pm, could you=20
> try that? (perl -MCPAN -e "install 'Storable'")
>=20
> -Eric
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:18 PM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> >=20
> > -bash-2.05b$ perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
> > 2.06 at -e line 1.
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > > Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:02 PM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I can't reproduce it yet.
> > >=20
> > > Could you run this for me:
> > >=20
> > > perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
> > >=20
> > > and let me know what it prints out?
> > >=20
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Eric
> > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:58 AM
> > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > Subject: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> > > >=20
> > > > Know of any issue when polling a counter64 stat ? =20
> Still playing=20
> > > > with my BigIP, when I add the line to my oids file
> > > >=20
> > > > sysTmTotal      : .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.41.0      : leaf
> > > >=20
> > > > and I run "./devmon -vvvv -f" I get:
> > > >=20
> > > > Cannot restore overloading on HASH(0x8f69814) (package
> > > > Math::BigInt) at
> > > > ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into
> > > ../../lib/auto/Storable/thaw.al)
> > > > line 358, <$__ANONIO__> line 21, at=20
> > > > /data/BB/devmon-dev/modules/dm_snmp.pm line 176
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a=20
> groundbreaking scripting=20
> > > > language that extends applications into web and mobile media.=20
> > > > Attend the live webcast
> > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > > > coding territory!
> > > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > > Dev...@li...
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > > coding territory!
> > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

Hrm, I'm running Storable 2.13.

Does this happen reliably (i.e. any time you query that oid)?

This might be fixed by upgrading your Storable.pm, could you
try that? (perl -MCPAN -e "install 'Storable'")

-Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:18 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
>=20
> -bash-2.05b$ perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
> 2.06 at -e line 1.
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...=20
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:02 PM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > I can't reproduce it yet.
> >=20
> > Could you run this for me:
> >=20
> > perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
> >=20
> > and let me know what it prints out?
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> > -Eric =20
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
> > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:58 AM
> > > To: dev...@li...
> > > Subject: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> > >=20
> > > Know of any issue when polling a counter64 stat ?  Still
> > > playing with my
> > > BigIP, when I add the line to my oids file
> > >=20
> > > sysTmTotal      : .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.41.0      : leaf
> > >=20
> > > and I run "./devmon -vvvv -f" I get:
> > >=20
> > > Cannot restore overloading on HASH(0x8f69814) (package
> > > Math::BigInt) at
> > > ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into=20
> > ../../lib/auto/Storable/thaw.al)
> > > line 358, <$__ANONIO__> line 21, at
> > > /data/BB/devmon-dev/modules/dm_snmp.pm line 176
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > > coding territory!
> > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat

[Aiello, S. \(G. C. consultant\) <ste...@ge...>]

-bash-2.05b$ perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
2.06 at -e line 1.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:02 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I can't reproduce it yet.
>=20
> Could you run this for me:
>=20
> perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'
>=20
> and let me know what it prints out?
>=20
> Thanks,
> -Eric =20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:58 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
> >=20
> > Know of any issue when polling a counter64 stat ?  Still
> > playing with my
> > BigIP, when I add the line to my oids file
> >=20
> > sysTmTotal      : .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.41.0      : leaf
> >=20
> > and I run "./devmon -vvvv -f" I get:
> >=20
> > Cannot restore overloading on HASH(0x8f69814) (package
> > Math::BigInt) at
> > ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into=20
> ../../lib/auto/Storable/thaw.al)
> > line 358, <$__ANONIO__> line 21, at
> > /data/BB/devmon-dev/modules/dm_snmp.pm line 176
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Cisco and Unpopulated GBIC interfaces

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

Hi Pat,

If you want to monitor the same ifcs in the if_stat test on
all of your cisco switches, you can probably just get away
with changing the 'exception' file in the if_stat template
to match whichever ifcs that you would like monitored.  Note
that you will have to do this for every switch model that you
would like customized.

Otherwise, if you need to monitor different ifcs on all of your
switches, you can manage this through the use of the except()
option for your DEVMON tag in the bb-hosts file.  Please read
the docs/USING or docs/using.html file to get the low-down
on how to use this option.

Regards,
-Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of PN...@ci...
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:54 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: [Devmon] Cisco and Unpopulated GBIC interfaces
>=20
> Hey all,
>  Just installed DevMon and started putting my cisco switches=20
> in and it's
> reporting unpopulated GBIC slots as down.
>=20
>  Anyone have suggestions on how to fix this?
>=20
> --Pat
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&
> dat=3D121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

Re: [Devmon] Cisco and Unpopulated GBIC interfaces

[Dan V. M. <bi...@gm...>]

It's my understanding that you can put them in administratively down
mode using IOS, or you can change your bb-hosts and do:

<ip>     host # DEVMON:thresh(if_stat;ifOperStatTxt;g:^down$)

Note that now when ever an interface is down on that router, it's not
going to go red. It's generally a good idea to always admin down
interfaces - both for security and managability:)

-Dan



On 3/2/06, PN...@ci... <PN...@ci...> wrote:
> Hey all,
>  Just installed DevMon and started putting my cisco switches in and it's
> reporting unpopulated GBIC slots as down.
>
>  Anyone have suggestions on how to fix this?
>
> --Pat
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua=
ge
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc=
ast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor=
y!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat=
=3D121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>

RE: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me with insanity!

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

And actually, you really shouldn't have a value that high unless
one of 3 things occurs :

1) You are delta transforming on a 64bit oid that has wrapped
2) You are delta transforming an already transformed 32bit oid,
   without specifying a viable upper-limit
3) Theres a yet another bug in the Devmon code.

Could you send me the contents of your 7609 if_load oid and
transforms files?

-Eric =20

p.s. I've noticed that lately I've really been digging the
numbered lists.  Has anybody else noticed this? :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Schwimmer, Eric E *HS
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:49 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me=20
> with insanity!
>=20
>=20
> Could have something to do with it, but as long as they don't roll
> more than once per polling interval, we should be okay.  What do
> you have your polling interval set for?
>=20
> -Eric
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...=20
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> > Of Dan Vande More
> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:09 PM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me=20
> > with insanity!
> >=20
> > Nope, didn't seem to fix it. Though I was running the=20
> newest version,
> > I downloaded it again, rm -r'd the old dir, killed the devmons, tar
> > -zxvf'd the new one and cp'd the .cfg back over. I then copied the
> > cisco-6509 to cisco-7609 and changed the spec file.
> >=20
> > It's still saying stuff like "297528.13 Tbps (297528129.95%)".
> >=20
> > I wonder, could the fact that my counters roll over every 2=20
> minutes be
> > the cause?
> >=20
> > Thanks
> >=20
> > Dan
> >=20
> > On 3/2/06, Schwimmer, Eric E *HS=20
> > <EE...@hs...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Insanity reigns! Yay!
> > >
> > > This is almost certainly a counter-wrap bug.  What
> > > version of devmon are you using, and could you please tell
> > > me the size of your modules/dm_tests.pm file?  I believe
> > > the "latest and greatest" has as file size of 66279.
> > >
> > > I also had to update many of the templates to fix this
> > > counter-wrap bug (if_err, if_dsc and if_load, specifically).
> > > Check to make sure you are doing the DELTA transform on
> > > un-transformed data (i.e. ifInOctets and not ifInBits).  If
> > > you aren't, then you can either download the latest tarball
> > > from sourceforge and get the fixed templates from there,
> > > or edit them by hand (in case you made changes that you want
> > > to preserve).
> > >
> > > There was an email a yesterday (titled 'RE: [Devmon] Beta 0.1.1
> > > incorrect load reported') that covered the specifics of who,
> > > what, when, where and whys of this whole thing.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the insanity :)
> > >
> > > -Eric
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > > > Of Dan Vande More
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:33 AM
> > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > Subject: [Devmon] insane if_load causing infecting me=20
> > with insanity!
> > > >
> > > > I've got devmon working fairly well, except I'm having=20
> some issues
> > > > with what appears to be just 7609/Cisco GSRs.
> > > >
> > > > They are interconnected two each other via a 1gbps=20
> fibre link, and
> > > > their interfaces often go red with devmon, and show the=20
> following:
> > > >
> > > > Gi2/2 [L3 conn to 7609-2]     1.00 Gbps       green 99.71
> > > > Mbps (0.10%)  red
> > > > 323627.09 Tbps (323627088.71%)
> > > >
> > > > Whoa! I'm not complaing about that much speed, but I'm=20
> > pretty sure I
> > > > don't have it.
> > > >
> > > > On a connection similiar to that one, it's perfectly reasonable:
> > > >
> > > > Gi2/1 [iBGP Link to 7609-2t]  1.00 Gbps       green 22.83
> > > > Mbps (0.02%)  green
> > > > 18.80 Mbps (0.02%)
> > > >
> > > > (The percentages are off, but I can fix that.)
> > > >
> > > > Then, I have a crazy OC12 Connection:
> > > >
> > > > PO5/0 [Sprint OC12]   622.00 Mbps     green 307445.73 Tbps
> > > > (494285746.27%)       green 32.70 Mbps (0.05%)
> > > >
> > > > Wowzers!
> > > >
> > > > Here's a perfectly sane OC12 below it:
> > > >
> > > > PO6/0 [ATT OC12]      622.00 Mbps     green 171.85 Mbps
> > > > (0.28%)       green 99.28 Mbps (0.16%)
> > > >
> > > > So that leads me to believe that my setup/transforms/etc=20
> > are fine, as
> > > > 50% of them seem sane. Any hints on where I can look for issues?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking
> > > > scripting language
> > > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend
> > > > the live webcast
> > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new
> > > > coding territory!
> > > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > > Dev...@li...
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > scripting language
> > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Devmon-support mailing list
> > > Dev...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> > >
> >=20
> >=20
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> > scripting language
> > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> > the live webcast
> > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> > coding territory!
> > =
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > Devmon-support mailing list
> > Dev...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20

RE: [Devmon] Counter64 stat

[Schwimmer, E. E *H. <EE...@hs...>]

I can't reproduce it yet.

Could you run this for me:

perl -MStorable -e 'die $Storable::VERSION'

and let me know what it prints out?

Thanks,
-Eric =20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant)
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:58 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: [Devmon] Counter64 stat
>=20
> Know of any issue when polling a counter64 stat ?  Still=20
> playing with my
> BigIP, when I add the line to my oids file
>=20
> sysTmTotal      : .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.41.0      : leaf
>=20
> and I run "./devmon -vvvv -f" I get:
>=20
> Cannot restore overloading on HASH(0x8f69814) (package=20
> Math::BigInt) at
> ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/thaw.al)
> line 358, <$__ANONIO__> line 21, at
> /data/BB/devmon-dev/modules/dm_snmp.pm line 176
>=20
>=20
> -------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking=20
> scripting language
> that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend=20
> the live webcast
> and join the prime developer group breaking into this new=20
> coding territory!
> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642
> _______________________________________________
> Devmon-support mailing list
> Dev...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devmon-support
>=20