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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-05-16 08:13:16
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Hi all, I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? Kind regards Jacob Sandin Centrum för Effektivt IT |
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From: Frank W. <Fra...@ct...> - 2008-05-16 08:32:28
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Hi Jacob, I have one of these in an older firewall: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are around 600€ the last time I bought some. Good luck, Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my Devil-Machines. > But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > Kind regards > Jacob Sandin > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-05-16 09:17:22
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NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he can find prices for them. I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is dumb :) Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking than what I run today :) Kind regards. Jacob Sandin -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic Hi Jacob, I have one of these in an older firewall: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are around 600€ the last time I bought some. Good luck, Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my Devil-Machines. > But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > Kind regards > Jacob Sandin > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss |
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From: Frank W. <Fra...@ct...> - 2008-05-16 09:38:49
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Hi again, I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with dust, and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and DL runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new iso). I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in my case. I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to have squid's logs if they're into that. BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these drives/media don't like that either in the long run. One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config on a USB-stick. I can't do this because a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy USB-sticks I can find. Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: > NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he > can find prices for them. > > I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is > dumb :) > > Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the > harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. > > I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. > > Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking > than what I run today :) > > Kind regards. > > Jacob Sandin > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis > Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi Jacob, > > I have one of these in an older firewall: > Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller > (rev 01) > Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > > It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need > Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... > > > I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two > GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these > out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the > front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what > you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are > around 600€ the last time I bought some. > > Good luck, > > > Frank > > On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my > > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > > > > Kind regards > > Jacob Sandin > > > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > > Dev...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ |
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From: Bruce S. <br...@ar...> - 2008-05-16 12:29:14
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> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with dust, > and the drives start to fail after some time)... I've seen the same problem. To prevent running systems from failing, I always use the RUNFROMRAM=yes option. That way the CD is only accessed during boot, and you don't have to worry about the system crashing because it can't read some program/library/file while it's running. It only takes an extra ~256MB or memory (give or take). - BS |
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From: Fred F. <ffr...@lo...> - 2008-05-16 14:23:15
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(or in some cases one) Fred Frigerio Locust USA This electronic message transmission contains information from Locust USA which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us by telephone (305-889-5410) or by reply via electronic mail immediately. -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Fred Frigerio Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:18 AM To: dev...@li... Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic I send two (or one in some cases) pens. Quite painless. Fred Frigerio Locust USA This electronic message transmission contains information from Locust USA which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us by telephone (305-889-5410) or by reply via electronic mail immediately. -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Jacob Sandin Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 5:17 AM To: dev...@li... Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he can find prices for them. I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is dumb :) Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking than what I run today :) Kind regards. Jacob Sandin -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic Hi Jacob, I have one of these in an older firewall: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are around 600€ the last time I bought some. Good luck, Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my Devil-Machines. > But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > Kind regards > Jacob Sandin > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. > Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss |
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From: Moray M. <mmc...@ox...> - 2008-05-16 11:20:56
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I've used the Intel Jacon recommends below and its predecessor the Pro/100 quad port. Both work well and have been rock solid for me - the latter in a DL installation. -------------------------------------- Moray McConnachie Head of Information Services Oxford Analytica +44 1865 261 600 http://www.oxan.com > -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On > Behalf Of Frank Weis > Sent: 16 May 2008 09:33 > To: dev...@li... > Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi Jacob, > > I have one of these in an older firewall: > Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit > Ethernet Controller (rev 01) > Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > > It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If > you don't need Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... > > > I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with > two FE and two > GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. > Check these > out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all > ports on the > front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's > exactly what you > need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB > ports) are around > 600€ the last time I bought some. > > Good luck, > > > Frank > > > On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my > Devil-Machines. > > But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > > > > Kind regards > > Jacob Sandin > > > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > > Dev...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Centre de Technologie de l'Education > 29 avenue John F. Kennedy > L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg > email: Fra...@ct... > tél.: +352 247-85973 > fax: +352 333797 > _______________________________________________ > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > |
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From: Fred F. <ffr...@lo...> - 2008-05-16 14:20:44
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I send two (or one in some cases) pens. Quite painless. Fred Frigerio Locust USA This electronic message transmission contains information from Locust USA which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us by telephone (305-889-5410) or by reply via electronic mail immediately. -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Jacob Sandin Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 5:17 AM To: dev...@li... Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he can find prices for them. I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is dumb :) Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking than what I run today :) Kind regards. Jacob Sandin -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic Hi Jacob, I have one of these in an older firewall: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are around 600€ the last time I bought some. Good luck, Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my Devil-Machines. > But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > Kind regards > Jacob Sandin > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss |
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From: Oliver N. <dig...@gm...> - 2008-05-16 12:40:39
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jacob Sandin schrieb: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my Devil-Machines. > But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > I use an old Adaptec ANA69011A quadport card which works without problems using the starfire module. Regards, Oliver -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFILYCu724ZL5LNhNcRAvH1AJ9attq+HSAUr8yitLlDVzipnQAsGQCfbICh U2r5OuBGBfs2iaDC31C0iIY= =0oie -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Fred F. <ffr...@lo...> - 2008-05-16 13:32:49
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I do have two of those but went with an internal HD instead of the CF and boot from the USB keys. I have an older one with an intel CPU that runs a bit too hot. If you can go for a low power processor. Fred Frigerio Locust USA This electronic message transmission contains information from Locust USA which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us by telephone (305-889-5410) or by reply via electronic mail immediately. -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Frank Weis Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 4:33 AM To: dev...@li... Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic Hi Jacob, I have one of these in an older firewall: Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are around 600€ the last time I bought some. Good luck, Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my Devil-Machines. > But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > Kind regards > Jacob Sandin > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-06-26 19:52:59
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Hi All, I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen combination). I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in INITRD_MODULES? I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso and one for config. The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial output. Thanx Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi again, I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with dust, and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and DL runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new iso). I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in my case. I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to have squid's logs if they're into that. BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these drives/media don't like that either in the long run. One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config on a USB-stick. I can't do this because a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy USB-sticks I can find. Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: > NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he > can find prices for them. > > I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is > dumb :) > > Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the > harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. > > I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. > > Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking > than what I run today :) > > Kind regards. > > Jacob Sandin > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis > Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi Jacob, > > I have one of these in an older firewall: > Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller > (rev 01) > Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > > It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need > Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... > > > I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two > GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these > out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the > front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what > you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are > around 600€ the last time I bought some. > > Good luck, > > > Frank > > On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my > > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > > > > Kind regards > > Jacob Sandin > > > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > > Dev...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-06-26 21:28:46
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Sorry, Just realized that I only displayed my limited knowlige in serial access to Linux :) What I had missed was this In /etc/inittab Enable S0:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 115200 ttyS0 vt102 In /etc/securetty Add ttyS0 ttyS1 However after some save-config etc I started getting errors like (-bash: /usr/bin/joe: Input/output error) And after a reboot the config was lost. I have 2 partitions on the CF one linux and one vfat16 bootcd.iso on the linux (300Mb) and the config on the VFAT16. Is this a faulty way to configure it or should I be worrying about something else? Kind regards Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin Skickat: den 26 juni 2008 21:33 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi All, I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen combination). I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in INITRD_MODULES? I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso and one for config. The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial output. Thanx Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi again, I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with dust, and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and DL runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new iso). I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in my case. I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to have squid's logs if they're into that. BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these drives/media don't like that either in the long run. One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config on a USB-stick. I can't do this because a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy USB-sticks I can find. Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: > NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he > can find prices for them. > > I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is > dumb :) > > Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the > harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. > > I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. > > Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking > than what I run today :) > > Kind regards. > > Jacob Sandin > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis > Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi Jacob, > > I have one of these in an older firewall: > Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller > (rev 01) > Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > > It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need > Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... > > > I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two > GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these > out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the > front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what > you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are > around 600€ the last time I bought some. > > Good luck, > > > Frank > > On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my > > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > > > > Kind regards > > Jacob Sandin > > > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > > Dev...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. 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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-06-26 22:52:51
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It seem that the save-config destroys the configfile in my configuration. It do not matter what the second partition is vfat or linux the config is still mangled by a save-config. At next reboot it wont work. However the combination CF / USBpen works. Any ideas on why? Kind regards /Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin Skickat: den 26 juni 2008 23:28 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: [Devil-Linux-discuss] NSA CF (from Quad port nic) Sorry, Just realized that I only displayed my limited knowlige in serial access to Linux :) What I had missed was this In /etc/inittab Enable S0:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L 115200 ttyS0 vt102 In /etc/securetty Add ttyS0 ttyS1 However after some save-config etc I started getting errors like (-bash: /usr/bin/joe: Input/output error) And after a reboot the config was lost. I have 2 partitions on the CF one linux and one vfat16 bootcd.iso on the linux (300Mb) and the config on the VFAT16. Is this a faulty way to configure it or should I be worrying about something else? Kind regards Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin Skickat: den 26 juni 2008 21:33 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi All, I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen combination). I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in INITRD_MODULES? I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso and one for config. The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial output. Thanx Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi again, I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with dust, and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and DL runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new iso). I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in my case. I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to have squid's logs if they're into that. BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these drives/media don't like that either in the long run. One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config on a USB-stick. I can't do this because a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy USB-sticks I can find. Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... Frank On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: > NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he > can find prices for them. > > I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is > dumb :) > > Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the > harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. > > I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. > > Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking > than what I run today :) > > Kind regards. > > Jacob Sandin > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis > Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi Jacob, > > I have one of these in an older firewall: > Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller > (rev 01) > Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > > It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need > Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... > > > I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two > GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these > out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the > front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what > you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are > around 600€ the last time I bought some. > > Good luck, > > > Frank > > On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my > > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > > > > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > > > > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > > > > > > Kind regards > > Jacob Sandin > > > > Centrum för Effektivt IT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > > Dev...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss -- _______________________________________________ Centre de Technologie de l'Education 29 avenue John F. Kennedy L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg email: Fra...@ct... tél.: +352 247-85973 fax: +352 333797 _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. 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It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss |
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From: John B. <sag...@gm...> - 2008-06-26 23:21:51
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Hi, Sorry these question are so newbie. I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? Thanks, Chip On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: > Hi All, > > I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. > > I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen > combination). > > I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in > INITRD_MODULES? > > I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso > and one for config. > > The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. > > Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial > output. > > Thanx > Jacob > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis > Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi again, > > I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with > dust, > and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 > Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD > drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and > DL > runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote > upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB > CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts > that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and > where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote > upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions > on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new > iso). > > > I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, > they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a > screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in > my case. > > I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a > central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to > have squid's logs if they're into that. > > BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these > drives/media don't like that either in the long run. > > One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config > on a USB-stick. I can't do this because > a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, > b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. > I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy > USB-sticks I can find. > > Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... > > Frank > > On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >> can find prices for them. >> >> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >> dumb :) >> >> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >> >> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >> >> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >> than what I run today :) >> >> Kind regards. >> >> Jacob Sandin >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi Jacob, >> >> I have one of these in an older firewall: >> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller >> (rev 01) >> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >> >> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need >> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >> >> >> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two >> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these >> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the >> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are >> around 600€ the last time I bought some. >> >> Good luck, >> >> >> Frank >> >> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >> > >> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >> > >> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >> > >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Jacob Sandin >> > >> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list >> > Dev...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Centre de Technologie de l'Education > 29 avenue John F. Kennedy > L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg > email: Fra...@ct... > tél.: +352 247-85973 > fax: +352 333797 > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-06-26 23:50:23
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Hi Chip, The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, never having used serial login before on linux" And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers on my machines. I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. I think you might have missunderstod the question :) However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not found a solution to though. Kind Regards Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För John Boden Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi, Sorry these question are so newbie. I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? Thanks, Chip On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: > Hi All, > > I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. > > I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen > combination). > > I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in > INITRD_MODULES? > > I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso > and one for config. > > The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. > > Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial > output. > > Thanx > Jacob > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis > Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi again, > > I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with > dust, > and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 > Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD > drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and > DL > runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote > upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB > CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts > that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and > where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote > upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions > on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new > iso). > > > I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, > they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a > screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in > my case. > > I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a > central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to > have squid's logs if they're into that. > > BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these > drives/media don't like that either in the long run. > > One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config > on a USB-stick. I can't do this because > a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, > b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. > I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy > USB-sticks I can find. > > Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... > > Frank > > On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >> can find prices for them. >> >> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >> dumb :) >> >> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >> >> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >> >> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >> than what I run today :) >> >> Kind regards. >> >> Jacob Sandin >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi Jacob, >> >> I have one of these in an older firewall: >> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller >> (rev 01) >> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >> >> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need >> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >> >> >> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two >> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these >> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the >> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are >> around 600€ the last time I bought some. >> >> Good luck, >> >> >> Frank >> >> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >> > >> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >> > >> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >> > >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Jacob Sandin >> > >> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> > Defy all challenges. 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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-06-27 06:14:29
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Hi, Hmm.. it might actually be that I misunderstood you and got overly defensive. You were actually only trying to ask questions you felt was newbie. (Thanx for pointing this out to me in private.) It was late and I was tired and I am sorry, on to the questions. >Sorry these question are so newbie. >I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? Not in my case, I use each port as a separate leg to a DMZ or different lan/wan or internet. In some places I have several lines to internet and in some places I have several lines to different offices with different access rules. >Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? Special... I like to fallback to static as I like to know what happens but I often use quagga to set up dynamic routing. >Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC >simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? The ports are distinct, and sometimes I also create virtual ones with VLAN tags. Kind regards Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:50 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi Chip, The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, never having used serial login before on linux" And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers on my machines. I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. I think you might have missunderstod the question :) However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not found a solution to though. Kind Regards Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För John Boden Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Hi, Sorry these question are so newbie. I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? Thanks, Chip On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: > Hi All, > > I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. > > I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen > combination). > > I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in > INITRD_MODULES? > > I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso > and one for config. > > The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. > > Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial > output. > > Thanx > Jacob > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis > Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi again, > > I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with > dust, > and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 > Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD > drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and > DL > runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote > upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB > CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts > that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and > where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote > upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions > on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new > iso). > > > I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, > they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a > screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in > my case. > > I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a > central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to > have squid's logs if they're into that. > > BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these > drives/media don't like that either in the long run. > > One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config > on a USB-stick. I can't do this because > a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, > b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. > I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy > USB-sticks I can find. > > Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... > > Frank > > On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >> can find prices for them. >> >> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >> dumb :) >> >> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >> >> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >> >> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >> than what I run today :) >> >> Kind regards. >> >> Jacob Sandin >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi Jacob, >> >> I have one of these in an older firewall: >> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller >> (rev 01) >> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >> >> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need >> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >> >> >> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two >> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these >> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the >> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are >> around 600€ the last time I bought some. >> >> Good luck, >> >> >> Frank >> >> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >> > >> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >> > >> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >> > >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Jacob Sandin >> > >> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list >> > Dev...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Centre de Technologie de l'Education > 29 avenue John F. Kennedy > L-1855 Luxembourg-Kirchberg > email: Fra...@ct... > tél.: +352 247-85973 > fax: +352 333797 > _______________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. 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From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2008-06-27 20:08:55
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Hey, yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent save-config updates in order to support aufs. Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make sure we won't forget about it. Heiko Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: > Hi Chip, > > The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial > only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, > never having used serial login before on linux" > > And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem > with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I > suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers > on my machines. > > I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I > suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. > > The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used > as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. > > I think you might have missunderstod the question :) > > However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the > save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not > found a solution to though. > > > Kind Regards > Jacob > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För John > Boden > Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi, > > Sorry these question are so newbie. > I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? > Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? > Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC > simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? > > Thanks, > Chip > > On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. >> >> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen >> combination). >> >> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in >> INITRD_MODULES? >> >> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso >> and one for config. >> >> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. >> >> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial >> output. >> >> Thanx >> Jacob >> >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi again, >> >> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with >> dust, >> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 >> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD >> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and >> DL >> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote >> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB >> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts >> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and >> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote >> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions >> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new >> iso). >> >> >> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, >> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a >> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in >> my case. >> >> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a >> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to >> have squid's logs if they're into that. >> >> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these >> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. >> >> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config >> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because >> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, >> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. >> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy >> USB-sticks I can find. >> >> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... >> >> Frank >> >> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >>> can find prices for them. >>> >>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >>> dumb :) >>> >>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >>> >>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >>> >>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >>> than what I run today :) >>> >>> Kind regards. >>> >>> Jacob Sandin >>> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>> Från: dev...@li... >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >>> Till: dev...@li... >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >>> >>> Hi Jacob, >>> >>> I have one of these in an older firewall: >>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller >>> (rev 01) >>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >>> >>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need >>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >>> >>> >>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two >>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these >>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the >>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are >>> around 600€ the last time I bought some. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >>> > >>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >>> > >>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >>> > >>> > >>> > Kind regards >>> > Jacob Sandin >>> > >>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >>> > -- Regards Heiko Zuerker http://www.devil-linux.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@re...> - 2008-06-30 12:38:46
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I'm back. I'm also confused. What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? - BS > Hey, > > yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent > save-config updates in order to support aufs. > > Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait > until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make > sure we won't forget about it. > > Heiko > > Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: > > > Hi Chip, > > > > The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial > > only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, > > never having used serial login before on linux" > > > > And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem > > with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I > > suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers > > on my machines. > > > > I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I > > suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. > > > > The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used > > as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. > > > > I think you might have missunderstod the question :) > > > > However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the > > save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not > > found a solution to though. > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Jacob > > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > Från: dev...@li... > > [mailto:dev...@li...] För John > > Boden > > Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 > > Till: dev...@li... > > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry these question are so newbie. > > I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? > > Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? > > Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC > > simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? > > > > Thanks, > > Chip > > > > On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. > >> > >> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen > >> combination). > >> > >> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed > in > >> INITRD_MODULES? > >> > >> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for > bootcd.iso > >> and one for config. > >> > >> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. > >> > >> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with > serial > >> output. > >> > >> Thanx > >> Jacob > >> > >> > >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > >> Från: dev...@li... > >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank > Weis > >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 > >> Till: dev...@li... > >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > >> > >> Hi again, > >> > >> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with > >> dust, > >> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 > >> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD > >> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, > and > >> DL > >> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do > remote > >> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie > 1GB > >> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL > kernel/boot-scripts > >> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, > and > >> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do > remote > >> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to > partitions > >> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the > new > >> iso). > >> > >> > >> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB > CFs, > >> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It > requires a > >> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem > in > >> my case. > >> > >> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to > a > >> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order > to > >> have squid's logs if they're into that. > >> > >> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these > >> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. > >> > >> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the > config > >> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because > >> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, > >> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. > >> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least > sexy > >> USB-sticks I can find. > >> > >> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: > >>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if > he > >>> can find prices for them. > >>> > >>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is > >>> dumb :) > >>> > >>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the > >>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. > >>> > >>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. > >>> > >>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking > >>> than what I run today :) > >>> > >>> Kind regards. > >>> > >>> Jacob Sandin > >>> > >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > >>> Från: dev...@li... > >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank > Weis > >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 > >>> Till: dev...@li... > >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic > >>> > >>> Hi Jacob, > >>> > >>> I have one of these in an older firewall: > >>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet > Controller > >>> (rev 01) > >>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > >>> > >>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't > need > >>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... > >>> > >>> > >>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and > two > >>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check > these > >>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on > the > >>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly > what > >>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) > are > >>> around 600€ the last time I bought some. > >>> > >>> Good luck, > >>> > >>> > >>> Frank > >>> > >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > >>> > Hi all, > >>> > > >>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my > >>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > >>> > > >>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > >>> > > >>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Kind regards > >>> > Jacob Sandin > >>> > > >>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT > >>> > > > -- > > Regards > Heiko Zuerker > http://www.devil-linux.org > |
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From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2008-06-30 12:54:58
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Well the thread went a little bit off-topic. ;-) Read the section below, it seems like save-config is having trouble when you use CF cards only (2 partitions). Heiko Quoting Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>: > I'm back. I'm also confused. > > What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? > > - BS > > > Hey, > > yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent > save-config updates in order to support aufs. > > Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait > until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make > sure we won't forget about it. > > Heiko > > Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...[1]>: > > > Hi Chip, > > > > The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial > > only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, > > never having used serial login before on linux" > > > > And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem > > with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I > > suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers > > on my machines. > > > > I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I > > suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. > > > > The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used > > as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. > > > > I think you might have missunderstod the question :) > > > > However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the > > save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not > > found a solution to though. > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Jacob > > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > Från: dev...@li...[2] > > [mailto:dev...@li...[3]] För John > > Boden > > Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 > > Till: dev...@li...[4] > > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > Hi, > > > > Sorry these question are so newbie. > > I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? > > Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? > > Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC > > simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? > > > > Thanks, > > Chip > > > > On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...[5]> wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. > >> > >> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen > >> combination). > >> > >> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in > >> INITRD_MODULES? > >> > >> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso > >> and one for config. > >> > >> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. > >> > >> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial > >> output. > >> > >> Thanx > >> Jacob > >> > >> > >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > >> Från: dev...@li...[6] > >> [mailto:dev...@li...[7]] För Frank Weis > >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 > >> Till: dev...@li...[8] > >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > >> > >> Hi again, > >> > >> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with > >> dust, > >> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 > >> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD > >> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and > >> DL > >> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote > >> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB > >> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts > >> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and > >> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote > >> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions > >> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new > >> iso). > >> > >> > >> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, > >> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a > >> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in > >> my case. > >> > >> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a > >> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to > >> have squid's logs if they're into that. > >> > >> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these > >> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. > >> > >> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config > >> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because > >> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, > >> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. > >> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy > >> USB-sticks I can find. > >> > >> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: > >>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he > >>> can find prices for them. > >>> > >>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is > >>> dumb :) > >>> > >>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the > >>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. > >>> > >>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. > >>> > >>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking > >>> than what I run today :) > >>> > >>> Kind regards. > >>> > >>> Jacob Sandin > >>> > >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > >>> Från: dev...@li...[9] > >>> [mailto:dev...@li...[10]] För Frank Weis > >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 > >>> Till: dev...@li...[11] > >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic > >>> > >>> Hi Jacob, > >>> > >>> I have one of these in an older firewall: > >>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller > >>> (rev 01) > >>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter > >>> > >>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need > >>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... > >>> > >>> > >>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two > >>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these > >>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the > >>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what > >>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are > >>> around 600? the last time I bought some. > >>> > >>> Good luck, > >>> > >>> > >>> Frank > >>> > >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: > >>> > Hi all, > >>> > > >>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my > >>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. > >>> > > >>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. > >>> > > >>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Kind regards > >>> > Jacob Sandin > >>> > > >>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT > >>> > > > -- > > Regards > Heiko Zuerker > http://www.devil-linux.org -- Regards Heiko Zuerker http://www.devil-linux.org Links: ------ [1] mailto:dev...@js... [2] mailto:dev...@li... [3] mailto:dev...@li... [4] mailto:dev...@li... [5] mailto:dev...@js... [6] mailto:dev...@li... [7] mailto:dev...@li... [8] mailto:dev...@li... [9] mailto:dev...@li... [10] mailto:dev...@li... [11] mailto:dev...@li... ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@re...> - 2008-06-30 13:02:55
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OK, I read (well, skimmed :) the emails, and I'm still unclear what is wrong with save-config. Can someone be more specific on what needs to be fixed in save-config, since I don't have a CF-only PC to use for testing? Or free free to donate a CF-only PC to me. ;-) - BS > Well the thread went a little bit off-topic. ;-) > > Read the section below, it seems like save-config is having trouble when > you use CF cards only (2 partitions). > > Heiko > > Quoting Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>: > > I'm back. I'm also confused. > > What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? > > - BS > > > Hey, >> >> yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent >> save-config updates in order to support aufs. >> >> Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait >> until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make >> sure we won't forget about it. >> >> Heiko >> >> Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: >> >> > Hi Chip, >> > >> > The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial >> > only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, >> > never having used serial login before on linux" >> > >> > And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem >> > with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I >> > suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers >> > on my machines. >> > >> > I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I >> > suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. >> > >> > The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used >> > as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. >> > >> > I think you might have missunderstod the question :) >> > >> > However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the >> > save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not >> > found a solution to though. >> > >> > >> > Kind Regards >> > Jacob >> > >> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> > Från: dev...@li... >> > [mailto:dev...@li...] För John >> > Boden >> > Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 >> > Till: dev...@li... >> > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Sorry these question are so newbie. >> > I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? >> > Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? >> > Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC >> > simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Chip >> > >> > On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. >> >> >> >> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen >> >> combination). >> >> >> >> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed >> in >> >> INITRD_MODULES? >> >> >> >> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for >> bootcd.iso >> >> and one for config. >> >> >> >> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. >> >> >> >> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with >> serial >> >> output. >> >> >> >> Thanx >> >> Jacob >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> >> Från: dev...@li... >> >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank >> Weis >> >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 >> >> Till: dev...@li... >> >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> >> >> Hi again, >> >> >> >> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with >> >> dust, >> >> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 >> >> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the >> CD >> >> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, >> and >> >> DL >> >> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do >> remote >> >> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie >> 1GB >> >> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL >> kernel/boot-scripts >> >> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, >> and >> >> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do >> remote >> >> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to >> partitions >> >> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the >> new >> >> iso). >> >> >> >> >> >> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB >> CFs, >> >> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It >> requires a >> >> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a >> problem in >> >> my case. >> >> >> >> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes >> to a >> >> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in >> order to >> >> have squid's logs if they're into that. >> >> >> >> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these >> >> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. >> >> >> >> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the >> config >> >> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because >> >> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, >> >> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. >> >> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least >> sexy >> >> USB-sticks I can find. >> >> >> >> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... >> >> >> >> Frank >> >> >> >> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> >>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if >> he >> >>> can find prices for them. >> >>> >> >>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question >> is >> >>> dumb :) >> >>> >> >>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >> >>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >> >>> >> >>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >> >>> >> >>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional >> looking >> >>> than what I run today :) >> >>> >> >>> Kind regards. >> >>> >> >>> Jacob Sandin >> >>> >> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> >>> Från: dev...@li... >> >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank >> Weis >> >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >> >>> Till: dev...@li... >> >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >> >>> >> >>> Hi Jacob, >> >>> >> >>> I have one of these in an older firewall: >> >>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet >> Controller >> >>> (rev 01) >> >>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >> >>> >> >>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't >> need >> >>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and >> two >> >>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check >> these >> >>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on >> the >> >>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly >> what >> >>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) >> are >> >>> around 600? the last time I bought some. >> >>> >> >>> Good luck, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Frank >> >>> >> >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >> >>> > Hi all, >> >>> > >> >>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >> >>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to >> get. >> >>> > >> >>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >> >>> > >> >>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Kind regards >> >>> > Jacob Sandin >> >>> > >> >>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >> >>> >> > |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-06-30 13:49:21
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Sorry about the confusion I did try to start a new thread NSA CF. To describe the problem. I have a 2Gb CF card in my NSA. 300MB partition for booting bootcd.img *rest* partition for config. All works when booting from the newly created CF (wich I create with the install-on-usb) it uses the etc.tar.bz2 and everything J But when I have made some changes and saves (although all looks normal) the config on the second partition is destroyed somehow. And next boot I am asked to upgrade the etc.tar.bz2 as it is from an older version, and a lot of files are missing from it. Also after running the save-config I no longer have a stable system and get messages like (-bash: /usr/bin/joe: Input/output error) I do not know what more to say tell you, I get no errors from save-config (although it sometimes take very long to complete) and the same system runs find with CF+USB pen. Kind regads Jacob Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Bruce Smith Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:03 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic OK, I read (well, skimmed :) the emails, and I'm still unclear what is wrong with save-config. Can someone be more specific on what needs to be fixed in save-config, since I don't have a CF-only PC to use for testing? Or free free to donate a CF-only PC to me. ;-) - BS Well the thread went a little bit off-topic. ;-) Read the section below, it seems like save-config is having trouble when you use CF cards only (2 partitions). Heiko Quoting Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>: I'm back. I'm also confused. What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? - BS Hey, yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent save-config updates in order to support aufs. Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make sure we won't forget about it. Heiko Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: > Hi Chip, > > The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial > only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, > never having used serial login before on linux" > > And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem > with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I > suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers > on my machines. > > I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I > suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. > > The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used > as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. > > I think you might have missunderstod the question :) > > However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the > save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not > found a solution to though. > > > Kind Regards > Jacob > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För John > Boden > Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi, > > Sorry these question are so newbie. > I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? > Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? > Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC > simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? > > Thanks, > Chip > > On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. >> >> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen >> combination). >> >> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in >> INITRD_MODULES? >> >> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso >> and one for config. >> >> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. >> >> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial >> output. >> >> Thanx >> Jacob >> >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi again, >> >> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with >> dust, >> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 >> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD >> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and >> DL >> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote >> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB >> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts >> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and >> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote >> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions >> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new >> iso). >> >> >> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, >> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a >> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in >> my case. >> >> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a >> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to >> have squid's logs if they're into that. >> >> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these >> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. >> >> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config >> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because >> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, >> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. >> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy >> USB-sticks I can find. >> >> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... >> >> Frank >> >> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >>> can find prices for them. >>> >>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >>> dumb :) >>> >>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >>> >>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >>> >>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >>> than what I run today :) >>> >>> Kind regards. >>> >>> Jacob Sandin >>> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>> Från: dev...@li... >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >>> Till: dev...@li... >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >>> >>> Hi Jacob, >>> >>> I have one of these in an older firewall: >>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller >>> (rev 01) >>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >>> >>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need >>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >>> >>> >>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two >>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these >>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the >>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are >>> around 600? the last time I bought some. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >>> > >>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >>> > >>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >>> > >>> > >>> > Kind regards >>> > Jacob Sandin >>> > >>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >>> |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-07-04 15:16:23
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Can I do anything else to help find the error. Do you want the output from saving even though it gives no error? Kind regards /Jacob Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:48 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Sorry about the confusion I did try to start a new thread NSA CF. To describe the problem. I have a 2Gb CF card in my NSA. 300MB partition for booting bootcd.img *rest* partition for config. All works when booting from the newly created CF (wich I create with the install-on-usb) it uses the etc.tar.bz2 and everything J But when I have made some changes and saves (although all looks normal) the config on the second partition is destroyed somehow. And next boot I am asked to upgrade the etc.tar.bz2 as it is from an older version, and a lot of files are missing from it. Also after running the save-config I no longer have a stable system and get messages like (-bash: /usr/bin/joe: Input/output error) I do not know what more to say tell you, I get no errors from save-config (although it sometimes take very long to complete) and the same system runs find with CF+USB pen. Kind regads Jacob Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Bruce Smith Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:03 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic OK, I read (well, skimmed :) the emails, and I'm still unclear what is wrong with save-config. Can someone be more specific on what needs to be fixed in save-config, since I don't have a CF-only PC to use for testing? Or free free to donate a CF-only PC to me. ;-) - BS Well the thread went a little bit off-topic. ;-) Read the section below, it seems like save-config is having trouble when you use CF cards only (2 partitions). Heiko Quoting Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>: I'm back. I'm also confused. What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? - BS Hey, yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent save-config updates in order to support aufs. Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make sure we won't forget about it. Heiko Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: > Hi Chip, > > The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial > only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, > never having used serial login before on linux" > > And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem > with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I > suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers > on my machines. > > I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I > suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. > > The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used > as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. > > I think you might have missunderstod the question :) > > However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the > save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not > found a solution to though. > > > Kind Regards > Jacob > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För John > Boden > Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > Hi, > > Sorry these question are so newbie. > I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? > Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? > Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC > simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? > > Thanks, > Chip > > On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. >> >> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen >> combination). >> >> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in >> INITRD_MODULES? >> >> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for bootcd.iso >> and one for config. >> >> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. >> >> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with serial >> output. >> >> Thanx >> Jacob >> >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi again, >> >> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with >> dust, >> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 >> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD >> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and >> DL >> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote >> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie 1GB >> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL kernel/boot-scripts >> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, and >> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do remote >> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions >> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new >> iso). >> >> >> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB CFs, >> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It requires a >> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem in >> my case. >> >> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to a >> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order to >> have squid's logs if they're into that. >> >> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these >> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. >> >> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the config >> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because >> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, >> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. >> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy >> USB-sticks I can find. >> >> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... >> >> Frank >> >> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >>> can find prices for them. >>> >>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >>> dumb :) >>> >>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >>> >>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >>> >>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >>> than what I run today :) >>> >>> Kind regards. >>> >>> Jacob Sandin >>> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>> Från: dev...@li... >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >>> Till: dev...@li... >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >>> >>> Hi Jacob, >>> >>> I have one of these in an older firewall: >>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller >>> (rev 01) >>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >>> >>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't need >>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >>> >>> >>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and two >>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check these >>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on the >>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) are >>> around 600? the last time I bought some. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >>> > >>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >>> > >>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >>> > >>> > >>> > Kind regards >>> > Jacob Sandin >>> > >>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >>> |
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From: Bruce S. <bw...@re...> - 2008-07-04 16:33:39
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Try running save-config with a trace to help see what's going on: bash -x save-config (you could apped "-q" on the end, or whatever options you're using) - BS > Can I do anything else to help find the error. > > Do you want the output from saving even though it gives no error? > > Kind regards > > /Jacob > > > > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin > Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:48 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > Sorry about the confusion I did try to start a new thread "NSA CF". > > > > To describe the problem. > > > > I have a 2Gb CF card in my NSA. > > > > 300MB partition for booting bootcd.img > > *rest* partition for config. > > > > All works when booting from the newly created CF (wich I create with the > install-on-usb) it uses the etc.tar.bz2 and everything J > > > > But when I have made some changes and saves (although all looks normal) the > config on the second partition is destroyed somehow. And next boot I am > asked to upgrade the etc.tar.bz2 as it is from an older version, and a lot > of files are missing from it. > > > > Also after running the save-config I no longer have a stable system and get > messages like (-bash: /usr/bin/joe: Input/output error) > > > > I do not know what more to say tell you, I get no errors from save-config > (although it sometimes take very long to complete) and the same system runs > find with CF+USB pen. > > > > Kind regads > > Jacob > > > > > > > > > > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Bruce Smith > Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:03 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > OK, I read (well, skimmed :) the emails, and I'm still unclear what is wrong > with save-config. Can someone be more specific on what needs to be fixed in > save-config, since I don't have a CF-only PC to use for testing? > > Or free free to donate a CF-only PC to me. ;-) > > - BS > > > > Well the thread went a little bit off-topic. ;-) > > Read the section below, it seems like save-config is having trouble when you > use CF cards only (2 partitions). > > Heiko > > Quoting Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>: > > I'm back. I'm also confused. > > What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? > > - BS > > Hey, > > yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent > save-config updates in order to support aufs. > > Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait > until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make > sure we won't forget about it. > > Heiko > > Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: > >> Hi Chip, >> >> The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial >> only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, >> never having used serial login before on linux" >> >> And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem >> with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I >> suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers >> on my machines. >> >> I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I >> suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. >> >> The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used >> as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. >> >> I think you might have missunderstod the question :) >> >> However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the >> save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not >> found a solution to though. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> Jacob >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För John >> Boden >> Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi, >> >> Sorry these question are so newbie. >> I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? >> Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? >> Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC >> simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? >> >> Thanks, >> Chip >> >> On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. >>> >>> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen >>> combination). >>> >>> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in >>> INITRD_MODULES? >>> >>> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for >>> bootcd.iso >>> and one for config. >>> >>> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. >>> >>> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with >>> serial >>> output. >>> >>> Thanx >>> Jacob >>> >>> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>> Från: dev...@li... >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 >>> Till: dev...@li... >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >>> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with >>> dust, >>> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 >>> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD >>> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, >>> and >>> DL >>> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do >>> remote >>> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie >>> 1GB >>> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL >>> kernel/boot-scripts >>> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, >>> and >>> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do >>> remote >>> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to >>> partitions >>> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the >>> new >>> iso). >>> >>> >>> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB >>> CFs, >>> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It >>> requires a >>> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem >>> in >>> my case. >>> >>> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to >>> a >>> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order >>> to >>> have squid's logs if they're into that. >>> >>> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these >>> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. >>> >>> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the >>> config >>> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because >>> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, >>> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. >>> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy >>> USB-sticks I can find. >>> >>> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >>>> can find prices for them. >>>> >>>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >>>> dumb :) >>>> >>>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >>>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >>>> >>>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >>>> >>>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >>>> than what I run today :) >>>> >>>> Kind regards. >>>> >>>> Jacob Sandin >>>> >>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>>> Från: dev...@li... >>>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank >>>> Weis >>>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >>>> Till: dev...@li... >>>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >>>> >>>> Hi Jacob, >>>> >>>> I have one of these in an older firewall: >>>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet >>>> Controller >>>> (rev 01) >>>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >>>> >>>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't >>>> need >>>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >>>> >>>> >>>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and >>>> two >>>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check >>>> these >>>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on >>>> the >>>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >>>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) >>>> are >>>> around 600? the last time I bought some. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank >>>> >>>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >>>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >>>> > >>>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >>>> > >>>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Kind regards >>>> > Jacob Sandin >>>> > >>>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > -- - BS |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-07-04 19:55:19
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/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 It seem these device partitions lets me access the disk /dev/ide/hd/c0b1t0u0p1 BOOT /dev/ide/hd/c0b1t0u0p2 vfat with config file. as well as /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 BOOT /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part2 vfat with config You will find 2 traces in file attached trace 1 (boot OK) trace 2 (boot failed) halted on (sync) for a long long time and after I got an error on the command reboot and if I try mounting it gives me "missing codepage" Hope this helps. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Bruce Smith Skickat: den 4 juli 2008 18:34 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Try running save-config with a trace to help see what's going on: bash -x save-config (you could apped "-q" on the end, or whatever options you're using) - BS > Can I do anything else to help find the error. > > Do you want the output from saving even though it gives no error? > > Kind regards > > /Jacob > > > > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin > Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:48 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > Sorry about the confusion I did try to start a new thread "NSA CF". > > > > To describe the problem. > > > > I have a 2Gb CF card in my NSA. > > > > 300MB partition for booting bootcd.img > > *rest* partition for config. > > > > All works when booting from the newly created CF (wich I create with the > install-on-usb) it uses the etc.tar.bz2 and everything J > > > > But when I have made some changes and saves (although all looks normal) the > config on the second partition is destroyed somehow. And next boot I am > asked to upgrade the etc.tar.bz2 as it is from an older version, and a lot > of files are missing from it. > > > > Also after running the save-config I no longer have a stable system and get > messages like (-bash: /usr/bin/joe: Input/output error) > > > > I do not know what more to say tell you, I get no errors from save-config > (although it sometimes take very long to complete) and the same system runs > find with CF+USB pen. > > > > Kind regads > > Jacob > > > > > > > > > > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Bruce Smith > Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:03 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > OK, I read (well, skimmed :) the emails, and I'm still unclear what is wrong > with save-config. Can someone be more specific on what needs to be fixed in > save-config, since I don't have a CF-only PC to use for testing? > > Or free free to donate a CF-only PC to me. ;-) > > - BS > > > > Well the thread went a little bit off-topic. ;-) > > Read the section below, it seems like save-config is having trouble when you > use CF cards only (2 partitions). > > Heiko > > Quoting Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>: > > I'm back. I'm also confused. > > What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? > > - BS > > Hey, > > yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent > save-config updates in order to support aufs. > > Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait > until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make > sure we won't forget about it. > > Heiko > > Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: > >> Hi Chip, >> >> The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial >> only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, >> never having used serial login before on linux" >> >> And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem >> with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I >> suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers >> on my machines. >> >> I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I >> suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. >> >> The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used >> as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. >> >> I think you might have missunderstod the question :) >> >> However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the >> save-config problem to the second partition on CF I still have not >> found a solution to though. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> Jacob >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För John >> Boden >> Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi, >> >> Sorry these question are so newbie. >> I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? >> Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? >> Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC >> simply act like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? >> >> Thanks, >> Chip >> >> On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. >>> >>> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb pen >>> combination). >>> >>> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything changed in >>> INITRD_MODULES? >>> >>> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for >>> bootcd.iso >>> and one for config. >>> >>> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. >>> >>> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running with >>> serial >>> output. >>> >>> Thanx >>> Jacob >>> >>> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>> Från: dev...@li... >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 >>> Till: dev...@li... >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >>> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' with >>> dust, >>> and the drives start to fail after some time)... I started out with 25 >>> Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 servers. Then I ripped the CD >>> drives out, and somehow stuffed IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, >>> and >>> DL >>> runs from the CF cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do >>> remote >>> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images (ie >>> 1GB >>> CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL >>> kernel/boot-scripts >>> that you can set in GRUB that let you select which iso you should use, >>> and >>> where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 file. So technically you _can_ do >>> remote >>> upgrade, but it takes some preparation (IIRC, you need to have to >>> partitions >>> on the CF card, you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the >>> new >>> iso). >>> >>> >>> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 MB >>> CFs, >>> they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs around. It >>> requires a >>> screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, but that is not a problem >>> in >>> my case. >>> >>> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog goes to >>> a >>> central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local share in order >>> to >>> have squid's logs if they're into that. >>> >>> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these >>> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. >>> >>> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and the >>> config >>> on a USB-stick. I can't do this because >>> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, >>> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. >>> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy >>> USB-sticks I can find. >>> >>> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see if he >>>> can find prices for them. >>>> >>>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming question is >>>> dumb :) >>>> >>>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >>>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >>>> >>>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >>>> >>>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional looking >>>> than what I run today :) >>>> >>>> Kind regards. >>>> >>>> Jacob Sandin >>>> >>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>>> Från: dev...@li... >>>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank >>>> Weis >>>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >>>> Till: dev...@li... >>>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >>>> >>>> Hi Jacob, >>>> >>>> I have one of these in an older firewall: >>>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet >>>> Controller >>>> (rev 01) >>>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >>>> >>>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you don't >>>> need >>>> Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >>>> >>>> >>>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE and >>>> two >>>> GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel adapter. Check >>>> these >>>> out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: rackmountable, all ports on >>>> the >>>> front-panel, integrated CFlash reader, serial console. It's exactly what >>>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB ports) >>>> are >>>> around 600? the last time I bought some. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank >>>> >>>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >>>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >>>> > >>>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >>>> > >>>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Kind regards >>>> > Jacob Sandin >>>> > >>>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > -- - BS ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Devil-linux-discuss mailing list Dev...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss |
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From: Jacob S. <dev...@js...> - 2008-07-04 21:38:35
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Hmmm, might say bingo.. It flashed by when I searched for NSA CF and linux that NSA only supported PIO. A bit more searching on that gave me ide=nodma for boot option (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/dma-error-on-tran scend-cf-cards-584070/) So I thought better to try and burn than ... Actually since I added it to grub.conf I have not had a single failure. Does this make scense to anyone that knows these CF things better than me, can I trust the system now? Kind regards Jacob -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin Skickat: den 4 juli 2008 21:54 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 It seem these device partitions lets me access the disk /dev/ide/hd/c0b1t0u0p1 BOOT /dev/ide/hd/c0b1t0u0p2 vfat with config file. as well as /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part1 BOOT /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part2 vfat with config You will find 2 traces in file attached trace 1 (boot OK) trace 2 (boot failed) halted on (sync) for a long long time and after I got an error on the command reboot and if I try mounting it gives me "missing codepage" Hope this helps. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] För Bruce Smith Skickat: den 4 juli 2008 18:34 Till: dev...@li... Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic Try running save-config with a trace to help see what's going on: bash -x save-config (you could apped "-q" on the end, or whatever options you're using) - BS > Can I do anything else to help find the error. > > Do you want the output from saving even though it gives no error? > > Kind regards > > /Jacob > > > > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Jacob Sandin > Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:48 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > Sorry about the confusion I did try to start a new thread "NSA CF". > > > > To describe the problem. > > > > I have a 2Gb CF card in my NSA. > > > > 300MB partition for booting bootcd.img > > *rest* partition for config. > > > > All works when booting from the newly created CF (wich I create with > the > install-on-usb) it uses the etc.tar.bz2 and everything J > > > > But when I have made some changes and saves (although all looks > normal) the > config on the second partition is destroyed somehow. And next boot I > am asked to upgrade the etc.tar.bz2 as it is from an older version, > and a lot of files are missing from it. > > > > Also after running the save-config I no longer have a stable system > and get > messages like (-bash: /usr/bin/joe: Input/output error) > > > > I do not know what more to say tell you, I get no errors from > save-config (although it sometimes take very long to complete) and the > same system runs > find with CF+USB pen. > > > > Kind regads > > Jacob > > > > > > > > > > Från: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] För Bruce > Smith > Skickat: den 30 juni 2008 15:03 > Till: dev...@li... > Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic > > > > OK, I read (well, skimmed :) the emails, and I'm still unclear what is wrong > with save-config. Can someone be more specific on what needs to be > fixed in > save-config, since I don't have a CF-only PC to use for testing? > > Or free free to donate a CF-only PC to me. ;-) > > - BS > > > > Well the thread went a little bit off-topic. ;-) > > Read the section below, it seems like save-config is having trouble > when you > use CF cards only (2 partitions). > > Heiko > > Quoting Bruce Smith <bw...@re...>: > > I'm back. I'm also confused. > > What's save-config got to do with a quad port nic? > > - BS > > Hey, > > yes it may be that there was a problem introduced in the recent > save-config updates in order to support aufs. > > Bruce who did the change is currently on vacation, we'll have to wait > until he gets back. Just follow up on this in a week or so, to make > sure we won't forget about it. > > Heiko > > Quoting Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...>: > >> Hi Chip, >> >> The only problem here was that I did not know how to get the serial >> only interface working. "not so newbie I think just unknown to me, >> never having used serial login before on linux" >> >> And as follows by the discussuin in my other emails also the problem >> with saving to the same Compact Flas for the configfile, wich I >> suspect is a bug in save-config or a problem with the CF hw/drivers >> on my machines. >> >> I have no problem understanding network and routring, and as I >> suspected I needed no extra INITRD_MODULES. >> >> The 8 ports are not nessesarily to the inside, mostly they are used >> as interfaces to different bgp or ospf networks in my case. >> >> I think you might have missunderstod the question :) >> >> However this problem is solved as I reported earlier, the save-config >> problem to the second partition on CF I still have not found a >> solution to though. >> >> >> Kind Regards >> Jacob >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: dev...@li... >> [mailto:dev...@li...] För John >> Boden >> Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 01:22 >> Till: dev...@li... >> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >> >> Hi, >> >> Sorry these question are so newbie. >> I assume you are using the 4 port on the inside? >> Do you need to do anything special to set up routing? >> Are the ports distinct to linux or does the 4-port NIC simply act >> like a 1-port NIC attached to a hub? >> >> Thanks, >> Chip >> >> On 6/26/08, Jacob Sandin <dev...@js...> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I actually got myself two of those NSA to test they look real nice. >>> >>> I am unsure how to install them though. (as I've only run on cd/usb >>> pen combination). >>> >>> I have run the install-on-usb but am unsure if I need anything >>> changed in >>> INITRD_MODULES? >>> >>> I run grub with serial and I make 2 patitions on the CF one for >>> bootcd.iso and one for config. >>> >>> The boot seem to halt at GRSecurity. >>> >>> Can you give me any pointers on what is needed to get it running >>> with serial output. >>> >>> Thanx >>> Jacob >>> >>> >>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>> Från: dev...@li... >>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För Frank Weis >>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 11:39 >>> Till: dev...@li... >>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Re: [BULK] Quad port nic >>> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> I have had a lot of trouble with CDs (the surface gets all 'foggy' >>> with dust, and the drives start to fail after some time)... I >>> started out with 25 Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy L100, later RX100 >>> servers. Then I ripped the CD drives out, and somehow stuffed >>> IDE-Compactflash Card adapters inside, and DL runs from the CF >>> cards. As you have GRUB on the CF-cards, you can do remote >>> upgrades: you need to have CF-cards big enough to hold 2 iso images >>> (ie 1GB CF-cards at the moment). There are parameters for the DL >>> kernel/boot-scripts that you can set in GRUB that let you select >>> which iso you should use, and where to look for the etc.tar.bz2 >>> file. So technically you _can_ do remote upgrade, but it takes some >>> preparation (IIRC, you need to have to partitions on the CF card, >>> you need to extract the new kernel and initrd from the new iso). >>> >>> >>> I have done this several times, but as I have started out with 512 >>> MB CFs, they are to small now, so I just send (CF + USB) pairs >>> around. It requires a screwdriver-savvy person at the receiving end, >>> but that is not a problem in my case. >>> >>> I have no HD's in my boxes (no moving parts except fans). syslog >>> goes to a central server (into mysql). Some locations mount a local >>> share in order to have squid's logs if they're into that. >>> >>> BTW, I also started out with floppy disks for etc.tar.bz2 but these >>> drives/media don't like that either in the long run. >>> >>> One could probably get away without CF cards, putting the iso and >>> the config on a USB-stick. I can't do this because >>> a) my old appliances can't boot from USB, >>> b) 1GB+ USB drives sticking out of the front are likely to get stolen. >>> I usually try to get the smallest (in capacity), clunkiest and least sexy >>> USB-sticks I can find. >>> >>> Feel free to ask if you need any additional info... >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> On Friday 16 May 2008 11:16:42 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>>> NSA 1045, Looks very nice I have asked my hardware supplier to see >>>> if he >>>> can find prices for them. >>>> >>>> I am used to running DL with CD boot, so sorry if my coming >>>> question is dumb :) >>>> >>>> Do you run DL from the harddrive or the CF, if you run it from the >>>> harddrive is there an easy way to do upgrades? To the latest DL. >>>> >>>> I am quite used to just sending along a new CD and a USB pen. >>>> >>>> Thanx a lot for the NSA recommendation, a lot more professional >>>> looking than what I run today :) >>>> >>>> Kind regards. >>>> >>>> Jacob Sandin >>>> >>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >>>> Från: dev...@li... >>>> [mailto:dev...@li...] För >>>> Frank Weis >>>> Skickat: den 16 maj 2008 10:33 >>>> Till: dev...@li... >>>> Ämne: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] [BULK] Quad port nic >>>> >>>> Hi Jacob, >>>> >>>> I have one of these in an older firewall: >>>> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet >>>> Controller (rev 01) >>>> Subsystem: Intel Corporation PRO/1000 MT Quad Port Server Adapter >>>> >>>> It works well, but it was relatively expensive I think. If you >>>> don't need Gigabit, you might find cheaper ones.... >>>> >>>> >>>> I now buy Nexcom appliances, and I'm sure a "NSA 1045" with two FE >>>> and two GBit ports is in the same price range than the intel >>>> adapter. Check these out, they are really neat for Devil-Linux: >>>> rackmountable, all ports on the front-panel, integrated CFlash >>>> reader, serial console. It's exactly what >>>> you need to build a firewall, and nothing more. NSA 1042 (4 GB >>>> ports) are around 600? the last time I bought some. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank >>>> >>>> On Friday 16 May 2008 09:53:44 Jacob Sandin wrote: >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I was thinking about getting a Quadport card for one of my >>>> > Devil-Machines. But I have absolutely no idea about what card to get. >>>> > >>>> > I need it to work with VLAN and to manage 100 Full-duplex. >>>> > >>>> > Does anyone of you have any experience or recommendations? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Kind regards >>>> > Jacob Sandin >>>> > >>>> > Centrum för Effektivt IT >>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > -- - BS ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! 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