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From: Martin G. <mar...@we...> - 2006-10-29 20:31:54
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Hi, is there anyone with experience with DL on some newer Machines with SATA_PIIX boards. I have (mis)used DL 1.2.10 as boot-system for mass-cloning some standard Linux-installation to our PCs. On these these machines the CDROM was attached to a normal IDE Bus and the harddisk was accessible with the DL after loading the ata_piix driver via the INITRD_MODULES. Everything worked fine. Now we have a new Series (Dell Optiplex 745) were the hardware has changed. The CDROM is now also attached to the SATA, the loading of the piix module fails and the CDROM cannot be found by Devil. Is there a way to work around this problem? Are there updates to the kernel-modules available? Martin |
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From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2006-10-30 00:11:07
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Hey, I don't have DL running with a SATA board, but I'd guess it's a matter of finding the correct SATA module which you have to load. Heiko On Sun, October 29, 2006 14:31, Martin Ginkel wrote: > Hi, > > > is there anyone with experience with DL on some newer Machines with > SATA_PIIX boards. > > > I have (mis)used DL 1.2.10 as boot-system for mass-cloning some standard > Linux-installation to our PCs. > On these these machines the CDROM was attached to a normal IDE Bus and > the harddisk was accessible with the DL after loading the ata_piix driver > via the INITRD_MODULES. Everything worked fine. > > > Now we have a new Series (Dell Optiplex 745) were the hardware has > changed. The CDROM is now also attached to the SATA, the loading of the > piix module fails and the CDROM cannot be found by Devil. > > Is there a way to work around this problem? Are there updates to the > kernel-modules available? > > Martin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make > your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on > Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Devil-linux-discuss mailing list > Dev...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss > > -- Regards Heiko Zuerker http://www.devil-linux.org |
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From: Matthew B. <m...@wh...> - 2006-10-30 00:41:48
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Hi Martin, I've just had some problems with a new ICH8 Intel motherboard. The cdrom could be seen to boot from but failed to mount due to insufficient kernel support. It turned out that I needed at least kernel version 2.6.18 with the mm patch set or 2.6.19 stock kernel with a newer libata mod (and other stuff). You may want to take the same approach as I did, at least to be able to work out what you have. Try this live Gentoo cd. http://www.kernel-of-truth.net/downloads_kOT.html Boot it (if it can) and see what kernel mods are loaded and run lspci to see what the hardware is. This will put you in a better position to work out what you need for DL. Hope this helps, Matt Heiko Zuerker wrote: > Hey, > > I don't have DL running with a SATA board, but I'd guess it's a matter of > finding the correct SATA module which you have to load. > > Heiko > > On Sun, October 29, 2006 14:31, Martin Ginkel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> is there anyone with experience with DL on some newer Machines with >> SATA_PIIX boards. >> >> >> I have (mis)used DL 1.2.10 as boot-system for mass-cloning some standard >> Linux-installation to our PCs. >> On these these machines the CDROM was attached to a normal IDE Bus and >> the harddisk was accessible with the DL after loading the ata_piix driver >> via the INITRD_MODULES. Everything worked fine. >> >> >> Now we have a new Series (Dell Optiplex 745) were the hardware has >> changed. The CDROM is now also attached to the SATA, the loading of the >> piix module fails and the CDROM cannot be found by Devil. >> >> Is there a way to work around this problem? Are there updates to the >> kernel-modules available? >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, >> security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make >> your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on >> Apache Geronimo >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 >> _______________________________________________ >> Devil-linux-discuss mailing list >> Dev...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/devil-linux-discuss >> >> > > |
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From: Martin G. <mar...@we...> - 2006-10-30 15:43:26
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Hi Matthew, Matthew Baker wrote: > I've just had some problems with a new ICH8 Intel motherboard. The cdrom > could be seen to boot from but failed to mount due to insufficient > kernel support. It turned out that I needed at least kernel version > 2.6.18 with the mm patch set or 2.6.19 stock kernel with a newer libata > mod (and other stuff). You may want to take the same approach as I did, > at least to be able to work out what you have. OK, lets be more specific. We are using the Dell Optiplex 620 with Intel-ICH7 without any problems. As I said, also DL can work with that controller and accessed the HDD. On the newer Machine (745) the controller is from Intel, maybe ICH8, but the kernel prints no name in lspci. Device ID is 0x8086 0x2820 0x1028 0x01da I am able to boot SuSE 10.1 with kernel 2.6.16.13 on this machine without problems, the module from 2.6 loads. So I don't think I will need the newes 2.6.19 with patches. But in DL the module does not work. Is there anything not backported to the 2.4 kernel? Booting from Stick is not an option though, because I want to setup the disk within DL (fdisk, mkfs, mount) and then copy some Suse-Image to that disk. Martin |
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From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2006-10-30 15:56:30
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On Mon, October 30, 2006 09:43, Martin Ginkel wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > > Matthew Baker wrote: > >> I've just had some problems with a new ICH8 Intel motherboard. The >> cdrom could be seen to boot from but failed to mount due to insufficient >> kernel support. It turned out that I needed at least kernel version >> 2.6.18 with the mm patch set or 2.6.19 stock kernel with a newer libata >> mod (and other stuff). You may want to take the same approach as I >> did, at least to be able to work out what you have. > > OK, lets be more specific. > We are using the Dell Optiplex 620 with Intel-ICH7 without any problems. > As I said, also DL can work with that controller and accessed the HDD. > > > On the newer Machine (745) the controller is from Intel, maybe ICH8, > but the kernel prints no name in lspci. Device ID is 0x8086 0x2820 0x1028 > 0x01da > > > I am able to boot SuSE 10.1 with kernel 2.6.16.13 on this machine > without problems, the module from 2.6 loads. So I don't think I will need > the newes 2.6.19 with patches. > > But in DL the module does not work. Is there anything not backported > to the 2.4 kernel? Unfortunately they don't really port much back to the 2.4 Kernel. And I'm still very reluctant to go with Kernel 2.6, since it has so many security problems. > Booting from Stick is not an option though, because I want to setup > the disk within DL (fdisk, mkfs, mount) and then copy some Suse-Image to > that disk. I did a quick googling around and this seems to be a general problem. I saw some people talking about an "AHCI" driver and mode. Maybe that helps. -- Regards Heiko Zuerker http://www.devil-linux.org |
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From: Matt B. <m...@wh...> - 2006-10-30 11:26:37
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Martin Ginkel wrote: > Hi, > > is there anyone with experience with DL on some newer Machines with > SATA_PIIX boards. > > I have (mis)used DL 1.2.10 as boot-system for mass-cloning some standard > Linux-installation to our PCs. > On these these machines the CDROM was attached to a normal IDE Bus and > the harddisk was accessible with the DL after loading the ata_piix > driver via the INITRD_MODULES. > Everything worked fine. > > Now we have a new Series (Dell Optiplex 745) were the hardware has > changed. The CDROM is now also attached to the SATA, the loading of > the piix module fails and the CDROM cannot be found by Devil. > > Is there a way to work around this problem? Are there updates to the > kernel-modules available? You may also want to try booting from a USB flash drive. Product features on the DL home suggest there is "a script to install the entire system on an USB pendrive", although I've never tried it. Matt |
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From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2006-10-30 15:25:46
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On Mon, October 30, 2006 05:27, Matt Baker wrote: > Martin Ginkel wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> is there anyone with experience with DL on some newer Machines with >> SATA_PIIX boards. >> >> >> I have (mis)used DL 1.2.10 as boot-system for mass-cloning some >> standard Linux-installation to our PCs. >> On these these machines the CDROM was attached to a normal IDE Bus and >> the harddisk was accessible with the DL after loading the ata_piix driver >> via the INITRD_MODULES. Everything worked fine. >> >> >> Now we have a new Series (Dell Optiplex 745) were the hardware has >> changed. The CDROM is now also attached to the SATA, the loading of the >> piix module fails and the CDROM cannot be found by Devil. >> >> Is there a way to work around this problem? Are there updates to the >> kernel-modules available? > > You may also want to try booting from a USB flash drive. Product > features on the DL home suggest there is "a script to install the entire > system on an USB pendrive", although I've never tried it. install-on-usb is the scripts name and it's right in the tarball. ;-) -- Regards Heiko Zuerker http://www.devil-linux.org |
