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[Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Heiko Z. <li...@zu...>]

Hey folks,

looks like the USB stuff is mostly included now.
Ok, only devices supported by the vanilla kernel are currently 
supported. Only excemption is the SCM USBAT-02 CF card reader, which I 
happen to own. ;-)

The current plan is to support USB storage devices in 2 stages:
1. saving the configuration on CF cards and pen drives
2. booting entirely from pen drives without any floppies or cdroms

So I was thinking about compiling the USB chipset, USB storage driver 
and the needed SCSI support directly into the kernel.
Does anyone has a reason why I should not do  this?


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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:20:28PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> So I was thinking about compiling the USB chipset, USB storage driver 
> and the needed SCSI support directly into the kernel.
> Does anyone has a reason why I should not do  this?

you're saying that if you load the scsi drivers as modules then you'll not be able to use a cf / usb pen ?

i don't like the idea of bloating the kernel with lots of built-in support stuff (like scsi), mainly because i don't even have an ide hd installed on my router box...

but, as always, the decision is up to you :)

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Heiko Z. <li...@zu...>]

Diego Torres wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:20:28PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> 
>>So I was thinking about compiling the USB chipset, USB storage driver 
>>and the needed SCSI support directly into the kernel.
>>Does anyone has a reason why I should not do  this?
> 
> 
> you're saying that if you load the scsi drivers as modules then you'll not be able to use a cf / usb pen ?
> 
> i don't like the idea of bloating the kernel with lots of built-in support stuff (like scsi), mainly because i don't even have an ide hd installed on my router box...
> 
> but, as always, the decision is up to you :)

You still can influence my descision.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> So I was thinking about compiling the USB chipset, USB storage driver 
> and the needed SCSI support directly into the kernel.
> Does anyone has a reason why I should not do  this?

If we can we should just put the necessary modules onto the ramdisk
and onto the cdrom. This way we wouldn't bloat the kernel.

BTW how much is a PenDrive when you'd buy it? Here I can buy an
APACER Handydrive with 64MB for 40 EURO, 128MB for 60 EURO or
256 MB for 99 EURO. http://www.apacer.com/ does not currently work
at the moment, so I can not provide a reference.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Heiko Z. <li...@zu...>]

Friedrich Lobenstock wrote:
> Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> 
>> So I was thinking about compiling the USB chipset, USB storage driver 
>> and the needed SCSI support directly into the kernel.
>> Does anyone has a reason why I should not do  this?
> 
> If we can we should just put the necessary modules onto the ramdisk
> and onto the cdrom. This way we wouldn't bloat the kernel.

Ok guys, 2 votes against the inclusion.
So let's stick with the modules. ;-)

> BTW how much is a PenDrive when you'd buy it? Here I can buy an
> APACER Handydrive with 64MB for 40 EURO, 128MB for 60 EURO or
> 256 MB for 99 EURO. http://www.apacer.com/ does not currently work
> at the moment, so I can not provide a reference.

Prices are about the same, see http://www.memoryx.net

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   Heiko

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 09:57:58AM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> >APACER Handydrive with 64MB for 40 EURO, 128MB for 60 EURO or
> >256 MB for 99 EURO. http://www.apacer.com/ does not currently work
> >at the moment, so I can not provide a reference.
> 
> Prices are about the same, see http://www.memoryx.net

in spain, some shops are selling an usb pen with sdd card of 64Mb for 45€ (so you get an sdd to usb adapter for free). I'll try to find the url of the provider.

btw, has anyone bought an epia9000M? can it boot from an usb device?
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:10:43 +0100
Diego Torres <dt...@co...> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 09:57:58AM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>=20
> > >APACER Handydrive with 64MB for 40 EURO, 128MB for 60 EURO or
> > >256 MB for 99 EURO. http://www.apacer.com/ does not currently work
> > >at the moment, so I can not provide a reference.
> >=20
> > Prices are about the same, see http://www.memoryx.net
>=20
> in spain, some shops are selling an usb pen with sdd card of 64Mb for
> 45=A4 (so you get an sdd to usb adapter for free). I'll try to find the
> url of the provider.
>=20
> btw, has anyone bought an epia9000M? can it boot from an usb device?

Until now I found only one computer which supported it, it was a Compaq Evo=
 D500 .
I didn't get any newer computers in my hands.=20

Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:47:47AM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> > btw, has anyone bought an epia9000M? can it boot from an usb device?
> 
> Until now I found only one computer which supported it, it was a Compaq Evo D500 .
> I didn't get any newer computers in my hands. 

looks like we need an IDE cf reader...

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:41:35 +0100
Diego Torres <dt...@co...> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:47:47AM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> 
> > > btw, has anyone bought an epia9000M? can it boot from an usb
> > > device?
> > 
> > Until now I found only one computer which supported it, it was a
> > Compaq Evo D500 . I didn't get any newer computers in my hands. 
> 
> looks like we need an IDE cf reader...
 
Roland got that already working, but he currently has no time to "fix" it for the public.

cya
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

Diego Torres wrote:
> 
> looks like we need an IDE cf reader...
> 

Or boards that already have a cf reader, like the ones from
   http://www.soekris.com/

+ http://www.netgate.com/EL2511MP.html but that's another story ;-)

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] USB

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 07:43:02PM +0100, Friedrich Lobenstock wrote:

> Or boards that already have a cf reader, like the ones from
>   http://www.soekris.com/

i like this one a lot: http://www.soekris.com/net4501.htm, and also 
keep an eye on http://www.openbrick.org, but they're quite expensive.

currently the via epia9000m is 105$ on http://www.mini-itx.com
(and could be used as a divx/dvd player, cause its a c3@900Mhz.

the pitty is that delivery costs are very high (to spain).

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