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[Devil-linux-develop] statistics, competitors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hi,

I'm really impressed by the statistics
https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=34096

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we have no real competitor right now, or?
I'm also suprised, because currently we have a lot of downloads of the very old 0.44 release.

Do you have any suggestions to make Devil-Linux even more well-known?
I'm not sure, if we're ready do write something to Linux Magazines.
When I think what the C'T Magazine wrote about Smoothwall, I'm scared the same can happen to us.

cu
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] statistics, competitors

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:10, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but we have no real competitor right now,
> or?

Hmmm, I don't think so. Take a look at
 http://lwn.net/Distributions/
There must be some equivalent distribution around.

> I'm also suprised, because currently we have a lot of downloads of
> the very old 0.44 release.

It's the last none beta.


> Do you have any suggestions to make Devil-Linux even more
> well-known? I'm not sure, if we're ready do write something to
> Linux Magazines. When I think what the C'T Magazine wrote about
> Smoothwall, I'm scared the same can happen to us.

IMHO we are not quite there were we want to be, that's why we only
have betas right now. I would wait with writing articles for magezines
till we have a really stable and secure base. With secure I mean,
verified by 1000 eyes. With stable I mean that we are just updating
the sources of the tools to the new version which fix security
problems and not system relevant stuff like SysV init, ....

-- 
MfG / Regards
Friedrich Lobenstock
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AW: [Devil-linux-develop] statistics, competitors

[Gunther S. <Gu...@St...>]

Hello Friedrich,

I completely agree. We're not there where we want to be.
But WHAT is it we want ?????

--> We should create a roadmap or something that drives us to a stage where
we can say okay: now the point has come to write to ct,ix and other
magazines.


In my eyes devil-linux is "just a distribution", but a special one ;-)

in other words: it is the basis for a lot of other tools !
You can run a bgp-router with zebra or a nameserver with named and so on.
As one can see there are various possible applications.

We have to add a lot of packages (is smoothwall a package ??? *smile) in
order to allow a whole bunch of applications.
For example a set-permissions-script as we know it from suse would be great.

to be continued....

Have a nice sunday and bye.


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Betreff: Re: [Devil-linux-develop] statistics, competitors


On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:10, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but we have no real competitor right now,
> or?

Hmmm, I don't think so. Take a look at
 http://lwn.net/Distributions/
There must be some equivalent distribution around.

> I'm also suprised, because currently we have a lot of downloads of
> the very old 0.44 release.

It's the last none beta.


> Do you have any suggestions to make Devil-Linux even more
> well-known? I'm not sure, if we're ready do write something to
> Linux Magazines. When I think what the C'T Magazine wrote about
> Smoothwall, I'm scared the same can happen to us.

IMHO we are not quite there were we want to be, that's why we only
have betas right now. I would wait with writing articles for magezines
till we have a really stable and secure base. With secure I mean,
verified by 1000 eyes. With stable I mean that we are just updating
the sources of the tools to the new version which fix security
problems and not system relevant stuff like SysV init, ....

--
MfG / Regards
Friedrich Lobenstock
____________________________________________________________________
Friedrich Lobenstock         FL226-RIPE             Internetservices
URL: http://www.fl.priv.at/                     Email: fl...@fl...
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Re: AW: [Devil-linux-develop] statistics, competitors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hi,

you're both right.
A Roadmap would be good, but you can only create one, if you're able do 
implement the stuff in the announced time.
We have a list of what we want to implement at the end of the 
introduction page, that's at least something.

About the set-permission-script.
I already added this stuff in CVS, but it's still far from perfect. It 
needs a lot more additions and testing.

cu
  Heiko

Re: AW: [Devil-linux-develop] statistics, competitors

[Friedrich L. <fl...@fl...>]

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:36, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> A Roadmap would be good, but you can only create one, if you're able do
> implement the stuff in the announced time.

I would say that to make up a roadmap, one that does not state
definite dates, but milestones, we need to make a feature freeze now
and then.

> We have a list of what we want to implement at the end of the
> introduction page, that's at least something.

Ok, that's something. We could do better, if we could define that
those things are done in a specific order. So people somehow know
where we are standing and where we are going.


-- 
MfG / Regards
Friedrich Lobenstock
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Re: AW: [Devil-linux-develop] statistics, competitors

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:42:14 +0100 (CET)
"Friedrich Lobenstock" <fl...@fl...> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:36, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> I would say that to make up a roadmap, one that does not state
> definite dates, but milestones, we need to make a feature freeze now
> and then.

Yeah that is right.
The only problem is, that we're not many Developers at the moment.

> > We have a list of what we want to implement at the end of the
> > introduction page, that's at least something.
> 
> Ok, that's something. We could do better, if we could define that
> those things are done in a specific order. So people somehow know
> where we are standing and where we are going.

Right.
I create a new email with the list from the webpage.
Let's discuss it there.

cu
  Heiko