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Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: <hzu...@ra...> - 2003-11-21 13:59:36

On 11/20/2003 06:15:22 PM Diego Torres wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 02:36:55PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>> >
>> > why the glibc install script deletes /usr/share/locales and
>> > /usr/share/i18n ?
>> >
>> > without them its hard to have some chars :) if there is no reason
>against,
>> > i'll enable them and try
>> >
>> > pd.- heiko, any suggestion?
>>
>> You wrote in your last mail that you "fix" and test it.
>> So I'm still waiting for your feedback. ;-)
>
>feedback is: i've enabled locales from kbd and glibc.
>
>if i do export LANG=3Des_ES; perl, perl complains about locales not
>correctly installed on my system
>
>touch =E0=E8=F2; ls
>???
>
>(yes, i see "???" as the filename. using mc to browse displays the
>correct filename)
>
>so i'm lost. help!


Then it could be the codepage support in the Kernel.
Modify the Kernel config to support all the codepages you need (somewhe=
re
under Filesystem/NLS blah).


Heiko
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Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: <hzu...@ra...> - 2003-11-21 19:17:50

On 11/21/2003 01:38:21 PM Diego Torres wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 06:30:55PM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:
>> >
>> > Then it could be the codepage support in the Kernel.
>> > Modify the Kernel config to support all the codepages you need
>(somewhere
>> > under Filesystem/NLS blah).
>
>i think i've caught it... localedef has to be run after everything on
>glibc install script. it has to generate a locale-archive with the
>compiled locales on it.
>
>i'm generating only the es_ES@euro locales. maybe we should generate
>all of them?

Yes go ahead and do it.

Heiko

Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: Diego T. <dt...@co...> - 2003-11-23 00:51:17

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 02:13:27PM -0500, hzu...@ra... wrote:
> >i'm generating only the es_ES@euro locales. maybe we should generate
> >all of them?
> 
> Yes go ahead and do it.

bad luck. having locales compiled gives me the option to choose the language on which the output of lots of commands is going to be.

but this don't fix my problem when doing ls -la to a directory that has a "á" file. it keeps showing "?"

i'm lost again :(

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Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: Diego T. <dt...@co...> - 2003-11-23 01:22:44

On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 01:51:09AM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:
> i'm lost again :(

shit! solved! as easy as:

guest@Devil:/tmp $ ls --show-control-chars
a.á  mc-guest  mc-root
guest@Devil:/tmp $ ls
a.?  mc-guest  mc-root

now the question is why i don't have to use --show-control-chars on my debian box. ¿?

pd.- should i remove everything about locale, or leave them? it's like 10mb of overweight....
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Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: Heiko Z. <he...@zu...> - 2003-11-24 01:42:14

Diego Torres wrote:

>On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 01:51:09AM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:
>  
>
>>i'm lost again :(
>>    
>>
>
>shit! solved! as easy as:
>
>guest@Devil:/tmp $ ls --show-control-chars
>a.á  mc-guest  mc-root
>guest@Devil:/tmp $ ls
>a.?  mc-guest  mc-root
>
>now the question is why i don't have to use --show-control-chars on my debian box. ¿?
>
>pd.- should i remove everything about locale, or leave them? it's like 10mb of overweight....
>  
>
10 MB is a lot of stuff.
Can you disable it in a way, so we can easily re-enable it in case we 
need it some time down the road?

Heiko

Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: Diego T. <dt...@co...> - 2003-11-24 15:01:10

On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 08:39:38PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> >pd.- should i remove everything about locale, or leave them? it's like 
> >10mb of overweight....
> > 
> 10 MB is a lot of stuff.
> Can you disable it in a way, so we can easily re-enable it in case we 
> need it some time down the road?

the locale stuff in glibc is needed in order to build the locale-archive (700kbs). Then it can be deleted, because the locale-archive is really useful thing.

i'll delete them on the scripts after the locale-archive is built.
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Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: Diego T. <dt...@co...> - 2003-11-24 15:01:37

On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 08:39:38PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> Can you disable it in a way, so we can easily re-enable it in case we 
> need it some time down the road?

btw, now a locale -a or a locale -m should work better :)

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Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: Diego T. <dt...@co...> - 2003-11-21 17:31:35

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 08:51:53AM -0500, hzu...@ra... wrote:
> >so i'm lost. help!
> 
> Then it could be the codepage support in the Kernel.
> Modify the Kernel config to support all the codepages you need (somewhere
> under Filesystem/NLS blah).

on my own system (debian box) i've compiled support for the same codepages that the DL kernel has:

850, 437, nsl-8859-1 and nls-8859-15 and everything works fine... maybe there is some value/variable/file where the path to the locale files has to be put?

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Re: [dtorres@coral.dnsalias.org: [Devil-linux-develop] locale missing]

From: Diego T. <dt...@co...> - 2003-11-21 18:39:17

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 06:30:55PM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:
> > 
> > Then it could be the codepage support in the Kernel.
> > Modify the Kernel config to support all the codepages you need (somewhere
> > under Filesystem/NLS blah).

i think i've caught it... localedef has to be run after everything on glibc install script. it has to generate a locale-archive with the compiled locales on it.

i'm generating only the es_ES@euro locales. maybe we should generate all of them?

pd.- any preferred mp3/ogg player to include with the alsa package?

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