devil-linux-develop

[Devil-linux-develop] setup

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hey Bruce,

I did some (quick) testing of the new setup program, here my list:
- Timezone: when you just hit [enter] , timezone is empty
- Timezone: you should display the subdirectories: instead of Eastern -> 
   US/Eastern (could cause problem above)
- You should make a comment, that using SYSLOG instead of SYSLOG-NG will 
brake a few things
- Packages: the dialog box is too high, I also see no help
- Services: same as above
- save: you do not need to give USB as an option

That's it for now. Otherwise I like it, good job!

cya
   Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] setup

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> I did some (quick) testing of the new setup program, here my list:

Cool!

> - Timezone: when you just hit [enter] , timezone is empty

That's because the default is not in my list.  The easy fix is to 
modify the line in:  build/config/etc/sysconfig/config

TIMEZONE="US/Eastern"

  to instead say:

TIMEZONE="EST5EDT"

(so it's on my displayed list)

Is that an OK change to commit to CVS?

> - Timezone: you should display the subdirectories: instead of Eastern -> 
>    US/Eastern (could cause problem above)

You lost me there.

> - You should make a comment, that using SYSLOG instead of SYSLOG-NG will 
> brake a few things

Will do.  (although it will say "break" not "brake" :)  </smartass>

> - Packages: the dialog box is too high,

What do you mean by "too high"?  It covers up the header?
I can probably fix that ...

>  I also see no help

We need to modify all the build/script/* files to 
echo "some help" >> some-help-file

I'll do that for a few so you can look at it, and see if you 
like it, before I spend too much time modifying them all.

> - Services: same as above

Same answer.  :-)

> - save: you do not need to give USB as an option

OK, how does it work?  
It looks for etc.tar and saves it wherever it finds it?
I just need to run "save-config" with no arguments?

> That's it for now. Otherwise I like it, good job!

Thanks for checking it out!

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] setup

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:
>>I did some (quick) testing of the new setup program, here my list:
> 
> 
> Cool!
> 
> 
>>- Timezone: when you just hit [enter] , timezone is empty
> 
> 
> That's because the default is not in my list.  The easy fix is to 
> modify the line in:  build/config/etc/sysconfig/config
> 
> TIMEZONE="US/Eastern"
> 
>   to instead say:
> 
> TIMEZONE="EST5EDT"
> 
> (so it's on my displayed list)
> 
> Is that an OK change to commit to CVS?

see next comment
Using EST5EDT isn't that common.

>>- Timezone: you should display the subdirectories: instead of Eastern -> 
>>   US/Eastern (could cause problem above)
> 
> 
> You lost me there.

When you look in /usr/share/zoneinfo , you see that there are 
subdirectories. One for example is the US with the file Eastern in there.
You should show this in the list as US/Eastern.

Clear now?

> 
>>- You should make a comment, that using SYSLOG instead of SYSLOG-NG will 
>>brake a few things
> 
> 
> Will do.  (although it will say "break" not "brake" :)  </smartass>

Correct me when I do something wrong, I'm here to learn.

>>- Packages: the dialog box is too high,
> 
> 
> What do you mean by "too high"?  It covers up the header?

Yepp, it looks like you have it at least 24 lines high.

> I can probably fix that ...

I hope so. ;-)

>> I also see no help
> 
> 
> We need to modify all the build/script/* files to 
> echo "some help" >> some-help-file
> 
> I'll do that for a few so you can look at it, and see if you 
> like it, before I spend too much time modifying them all.
> 
> 
>>- Services: same as above
> 
> 
> Same answer.  :-)

Same again.

>>- save: you do not need to give USB as an option
> 
> 
> OK, how does it work?  
> It looks for etc.tar and saves it wherever it finds it?
> I just need to run "save-config" with no arguments?

Yes correct.
It also uses *your* routine to find an empty media and then asks if it 
should copy the configuration.

>>That's it for now. Otherwise I like it, good job!
> 
> 
> Thanks for checking it out!

No problem!

cya
   Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] setup

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >>- Timezone: you should display the subdirectories: instead of Eastern -> 
> >>   US/Eastern (could cause problem above)
> > 
> > You lost me there.
> 
> When you look in /usr/share/zoneinfo , you see that there are 
> subdirectories. One for example is the US with the file Eastern in there.
> You should show this in the list as US/Eastern.
> 
> Clear now?

Got it.  That looks much better.  (already running on my local copy)
I didn't know you could specify the directory too.  Live & learn.

> >>- You should make a comment, that using SYSLOG instead of SYSLOG-NG will 
> >>brake a few things
> > 
> > Will do.  (although it will say "break" not "brake" :)  </smartass>
> 
> Correct me when I do something wrong, I'm here to learn.

I forgot, it's a second-language thing.  
"brake" is what you step on in your car to stop.
"break" is something broken.

Both pronounced the same, spelled different, different meaning.
English is a real pain that way, as I'm sure you already know.  :-)

> >>- Packages: the dialog box is too high,
> > 
> > What do you mean by "too high"?  It covers up the header?
> 
> Yepp, it looks like you have it at least 24 lines high.

I let everything default, so "dialog" sizes all the screens.
I'll have to do some calculations and specify the size.

> >>- save: you do not need to give USB as an option
> > 
> > 
> > OK, how does it work?  
> > It looks for etc.tar and saves it wherever it finds it?
> > I just need to run "save-config" with no arguments?
> 
> Yes correct.
> It also uses *your* routine to find an empty media and then asks if it 
> should copy the configuration.

Cool.  I have a USB memory stick now, so I hope to play with it this
weekend.  BTW, I picked up a small one for saving configurations (64MB),
and a big one (512MB) to try putting all of DL on it, someday.

If anyone wants a small one cheap, this works very nice in Linux:
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MRFLASH-64M
64MB, has a write protect switch, and is only $21.95.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] setup

[Bruce S. <br...@ar...>]

> I also see no help

OK, I had help loaded for a couple items (as a sample), and they didn't
show up on mine either.  

The problem is I created the help file in /etc/sysconfig/ and both of us
were using an _old_ etc.tar.bz2 config, which doesn't contain the file.

If you want to see the help work, copy "software-help" to your
/etc/sysconfig/ (or start with a fresh config), go to "Services" in
setup, and the first two items should have help on the bottom line.

Should I move the "software-help" file out of /etc so we don't have this
problem in the future?  If so, where should I put it?

--------------------------------------------
Bruce Smith                br...@ar...
System Administrator / Network Administrator
Armstrong International, Inc.
Three Rivers, Michigan  49093  USA
http://www.armstrong-intl.com/
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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] setup

[Bruce S. <bw...@re...>]

> I did some (quick) testing of the new setup program, here my list:
> - Timezone: when you just hit [enter] , timezone is empty
> - Timezone: you should display the subdirectories: instead of Eastern -> 
>    US/Eastern (could cause problem above)
> - You should make a comment, that using SYSLOG instead of SYSLOG-NG will 
> brake a few things
> - Packages: the dialog box is too high, I also see no help
> - Services: same as above
> - save: you do not need to give USB as an option
> 
> That's it for now. Otherwise I like it, good job!

I addressed all of your issues.  Changes are committed.
Run:  "make clean install iso"  and look again.  Thanks!

 - BS