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[Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Khalid El-K. <kha...@ho...>]

Hi again fellow,

>See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue those poor
>people. However, the result of the US going in, will be peace, stability,

so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ?
did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people in groups? why 
do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people 
kidding us in war ?
Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people wouldn't have killed 
you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to get in, but this 
is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers who are your 
brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a civilian Iraqi woman 
kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't love saddam ? 
Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of people who 
went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that Iraqi people love 
saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them in streets ?

>and much more lives will be saved than if saddam would stay.
>The main purpose of us going in is our defense. Throughout the history of
>the US and the world, all countries have REACTED to aggression.
>Unfortunatelly,  September 11th, 2001 changed US and world history. The US

you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth fellow, didn't 
you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th September ? would 
they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ?
I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand in all that's 
done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ?
I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack wasn't a pointless 
act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting the injust power 
of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and killed innocent 
people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is responsible ... one 
of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani hospital ? plz 
study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's edited to 
blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may blind us too by 
the way, but I think deeper.

>is no longer going to REACT, it from now on will PRO-ACT. And that's

sacrastic again...and kill innocent people in its PRO-ACT ?

>something the world is going to have to get used to. Before Sep11th, I 
>wou;d

So you dismiss justice ? i'm worried that saddam is going to be an angel if 
compared with you, return to justice plz.

>have disagree with the war. But as you know after Sep 11th we were attacked

Killing children doesn't have special circumstances where it's allowed, your 
hand is soiled in their blood. my hand too, because i didn't stand to defend 
them.

>with biological and weapons, which CANNOT be contained like communism. We

they didn't find these weapons so far, and they weren't found before the 
war, right ? or you attack for the possibilty even ?

>HAVE to take action against ANT THREAT before it can even get here. So it's
>all about life or dead.

It's all about innocent blood shed, but our god is fair, and days will make 
everyone responsible for innocent blood pay for it.

>I hope the US continues to be PROACTIVE in the face of biological or
>chemical threats and I hope some day the world understands that because 
>from
>now on there is no turning back.

you remind me of the matrix movie, no turning back, are they a herd of 
sheeps that you kill them with "no turning back" ? they are humans we should 
think 1000000 times before we kill one of them. return to justice plz.

your speech is no longer about justice, it's about pre-protection of yours, 
which means killing innocent children, and you could have avoided it if you 
didn't become our center of hatred, by what you did along the years with our 
brothers in palastine, now you are even going further, but there's a god 
above, who sees you, and hears you.

I'm really sorry for the mailing list, i promise not to post about this 
topic again, it's for Dev-C++ isn't it ? :)

Regards,
Khalid AL-Kary

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RE: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Ioannis V. <iv...@em...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Khalid El-Kary
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 1:34 AM
> To: Dev...@li...
> Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!
>=20
>=20
> Hi again fellow,
>=20
> >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue=20
> those poor
> >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be=20
> peace, stability,
>=20
> so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ?
> did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people=20
> in groups? why=20
> do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people=20
> kidding us in war ?
> Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people=20
> wouldn't have killed=20
> you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to=20
> get in, but this=20
> is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers=20
> who are your=20
> brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a=20
> civilian Iraqi woman=20
> kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't=20
> love saddam ?=20
> Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of=20
> people who=20
> went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that=20
> Iraqi people love=20
> saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them=20
> in streets ?
>=20
>=20
> you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth=20
> fellow, didn't=20
> you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th=20
> September ? would=20
> they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ?
> I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand=20
> in all that's=20
> done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ?
> I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack=20
> wasn't a pointless=20
> act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting=20
> the injust power=20
> of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and=20
> killed innocent=20
> people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is=20
> responsible ... one=20
> of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani=20
> hospital ? plz=20
> study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's=20
> edited to=20
> blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may=20
> blind us too by=20
> the way, but I think deeper.
[...]


Let's not broaden the discussion. The truth is that dictator Saddam and
terrorist Bin L. were all created, trained and gained weapons of mass
destruction by US. Then suddenly when they stop doing their favors or =
attack
them, US discover that they are evil. They feed their citizens with lies =
and
begin wars to apply their moral values which apparently they lacked when
they created them in the first place.

US citizens are victims too, they are not told the truth.


Ioannis Vranos
=20
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Santiago <sa...@ho...>]

That doesn't mean we have to take a chance in death. For whatever reasons
they exist, created or not, they must be destroy1 End of story
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioannis Vranos" <iv...@em...>
To: <Dev...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> Of Khalid El-Kary
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 1:34 AM
> To: Dev...@li...
> Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!
>
>
> Hi again fellow,
>
> >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue
> those poor
> >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be
> peace, stability,
>
> so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ?
> did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people
> in groups? why
> do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people
> kidding us in war ?
> Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people
> wouldn't have killed
> you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to
> get in, but this
> is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers
> who are your
> brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a
> civilian Iraqi woman
> kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't
> love saddam ?
> Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of
> people who
> went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that
> Iraqi people love
> saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them
> in streets ?
>
>
> you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth
> fellow, didn't
> you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th
> September ? would
> they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ?
> I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand
> in all that's
> done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ?
> I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack
> wasn't a pointless
> act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting
> the injust power
> of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and
> killed innocent
> people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is
> responsible ... one
> of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani
> hospital ? plz
> study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's
> edited to
> blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may
> blind us too by
> the way, but I think deeper.
[...]


Let's not broaden the discussion. The truth is that dictator Saddam and
terrorist Bin L. were all created, trained and gained weapons of mass
destruction by US. Then suddenly when they stop doing their favors or attack
them, US discover that they are evil. They feed their citizens with lies and
begin wars to apply their moral values which apparently they lacked when
they created them in the first place.

US citizens are victims too, they are not told the truth.


Ioannis Vranos

* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys




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RES: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Daniel K. O. <dan...@ya...>]

 >  I'm really sorry for the mailing list, i promise not to post about this
 >  topic again, it's for Dev-C++ isn't it ? :)

Yeah, plz you guys can exchange private mail about this.
But just to get a little on-topic here...



/*
  peace.c
  Usage: compile it and run
     peace > p.xbm
  then open the image p.xbm
*/

#include <stdio.h>
int __,p,e,a,c,E,_;
main()
{
  puts("#define p_width 256");
  puts("#define p_height 256");
  puts("static unsigned char p_bits[] = {");
  do     {
     p   =(_&255)-128;
     e   =(_>>8)-128;
     a   =e*e+p*p;
     c   |=(a<16383&&(a>9409||(abs(p)<16||abs(abs(p)-e)<20)))<<E++;
     E   -8||(printf("0x%02x,%c",c,10+22*!!(++__&7)),c=E=0);
         } while(++_ < 65536);
  puts("};");
}





Daniel K. O.

Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Santiago <sa...@ho...>]

Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out of nowhere,
then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT dispute the 250,000
dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny that, neither
have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm constantly reading
sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here in the USA. The
US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" can't work as a
business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more computers each,
all with internet access. So you could say that Americans have the best
access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I know you might
hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are but if in your
country 2+2=5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is peaceful. It all
comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the world where
lots of things you enjoy were invented, including computers,computer
programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human nature to hate
the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone else will
still want to be like the best.
Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county MUST until
there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land!





----- Original Message -----
From: "Khalid El-Kary" <kha...@ho...>
To: <Dev...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:34 PM
Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!


> Hi again fellow,
>
> >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue those poor
> >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be peace, stability,
>
> so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ?
> did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people in groups? why
> do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people
> kidding us in war ?
> Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people wouldn't have
killed
> you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to get in, but
this
> is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers who are your
> brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a civilian Iraqi
woman
> kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't love saddam ?
> Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of people who
> went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that Iraqi people
love
> saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them in streets ?
>
> >and much more lives will be saved than if saddam would stay.
> >The main purpose of us going in is our defense. Throughout the history of
> >the US and the world, all countries have REACTED to aggression.
> >Unfortunatelly,  September 11th, 2001 changed US and world history. The
US
>
> you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth fellow, didn't
> you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th September ? would
> they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ?
> I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand in all that's
> done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ?
> I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack wasn't a pointless
> act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting the injust
power
> of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and killed innocent
> people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is responsible ...
one
> of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani hospital ? plz
> study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's edited to
> blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may blind us too
by
> the way, but I think deeper.
>
> >is no longer going to REACT, it from now on will PRO-ACT. And that's
>
> sacrastic again...and kill innocent people in its PRO-ACT ?
>
> >something the world is going to have to get used to. Before Sep11th, I
> >wou;d
>
> So you dismiss justice ? i'm worried that saddam is going to be an angel
if
> compared with you, return to justice plz.
>
> >have disagree with the war. But as you know after Sep 11th we were
attacked
>
> Killing children doesn't have special circumstances where it's allowed,
your
> hand is soiled in their blood. my hand too, because i didn't stand to
defend
> them.
>
> >with biological and weapons, which CANNOT be contained like communism. We
>
> they didn't find these weapons so far, and they weren't found before the
> war, right ? or you attack for the possibilty even ?
>
> >HAVE to take action against ANT THREAT before it can even get here. So
it's
> >all about life or dead.
>
> It's all about innocent blood shed, but our god is fair, and days will
make
> everyone responsible for innocent blood pay for it.
>
> >I hope the US continues to be PROACTIVE in the face of biological or
> >chemical threats and I hope some day the world understands that because
> >from
> >now on there is no turning back.
>
> you remind me of the matrix movie, no turning back, are they a herd of
> sheeps that you kill them with "no turning back" ? they are humans we
should
> think 1000000 times before we kill one of them. return to justice plz.
>
> your speech is no longer about justice, it's about pre-protection of
yours,
> which means killing innocent children, and you could have avoided it if
you
> didn't become our center of hatred, by what you did along the years with
our
> brothers in palastine, now you are even going further, but there's a god
> above, who sees you, and hears you.
>
> I'm really sorry for the mailing list, i promise not to post about this
> topic again, it's for Dev-C++ isn't it ? :)
>
> Regards,
> Khalid AL-Kary
>
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RE: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Ioannis V. <iv...@em...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li... 
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Santiago
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:33 AM
> To: Khalid El-Kary; Dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!
> 
> 
> Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out 
> of nowhere,
> then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT 
> dispute the 250,000
> dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny 
> that, neither
> have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm 
> constantly reading
> sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here 
> in the USA. The
> US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" 
> can't work as a
> business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more 
> computers each,
> all with internet access. So you could say that Americans 
> have the best
> access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I 
> know you might
> hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are 
> but if in your
> country 2+2=5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is 
> peaceful. It all
> comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in 
> the world where
> lots of things you enjoy were invented, including computers,computer
> programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human 
> nature to hate
> the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and 
> everyone else will
> still want to be like the best.
> Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil 
> county MUST until
> there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land!


I agree with the above. Under the terms that Saddam will not be replaced by
another evil dictatorship, US would leave from the country and a democratic
regime with various parties would take its place.



Ioannis Vranos
 
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Per W. <pw...@ia...>]

No, it is NOT a reality that US has 'the best access to WORLD information'
if you by that mean internet access, and doesn't count the number of spy
satellites for minding other countries bussiness.

http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2003/02/03/daily25.html
declares 67% US ADULTS penetration - which of course assumes private
surfing on company time. Let's go for total population instead, since
obviously growing up without free access to uncoloured information
is important...

If you check TOTAL population, check link:
http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11

69.8% Iceland
67.8% Sweden
63.3% Switzerland
62.7% Denmark
60.8% Netherlands
59.6% Hong Kong
59.2% Norway
57.6% Austria
57.3% USA
55.9% Canada
55.7% South Korea

First of all, it's considered quite rude to shout - using capital letters
- in news groups and mails.

Second, to shout without checking facts is even worse.

Might it be that you are not an adult, and hence haven't learned correct
social behavour? My previous post did not contain any information
requiring a shouted answer.

/Per W

On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Santiago wrote:

> Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out of nowhere,
> then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT dispute the 250,000
> dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny that, neither
> have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm constantly reading
> sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here in the USA. The
> US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" can't work as a
> business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more computers each,
> all with internet access. So you could say that Americans have the best
> access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I know you might
> hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are but if in your
> country 2+2=5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is peaceful. It all
> comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the world where
> lots of things you enjoy were invented, including computers,computer
> programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human nature to hate
> the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone else will
> still want to be like the best.
> Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county MUST until
> there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land!
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Khalid El-Kary" <kha...@ho...>
> To: <Dev...@li...>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:34 PM
> Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!
>
>
> > Hi again fellow,
> >
> > >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue those poor
> > >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be peace, stability,
> >
> > so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ?
> > did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people in groups? why
> > do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people
> > kidding us in war ?
> > Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people wouldn't have
> killed
> > you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to get in, but
> this
> > is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers who are your
> > brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a civilian Iraqi
> woman
> > kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't love saddam ?
> > Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of people who
> > went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that Iraqi people
> love
> > saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them in streets ?
> >
> > >and much more lives will be saved than if saddam would stay.
> > >The main purpose of us going in is our defense. Throughout the history of
> > >the US and the world, all countries have REACTED to aggression.
> > >Unfortunatelly,  September 11th, 2001 changed US and world history. The
> US
> >
> > you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth fellow, didn't
> > you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th September ? would
> > they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ?
> > I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand in all that's
> > done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ?
> > I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack wasn't a pointless
> > act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting the injust
> power
> > of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and killed innocent
> > people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is responsible ...
> one
> > of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani hospital ? plz
> > study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's edited to
> > blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may blind us too
> by
> > the way, but I think deeper.
> >
> > >is no longer going to REACT, it from now on will PRO-ACT. And that's
> >
> > sacrastic again...and kill innocent people in its PRO-ACT ?
> >
> > >something the world is going to have to get used to. Before Sep11th, I
> > >wou;d
> >
> > So you dismiss justice ? i'm worried that saddam is going to be an angel
> if
> > compared with you, return to justice plz.
> >
> > >have disagree with the war. But as you know after Sep 11th we were
> attacked
> >
> > Killing children doesn't have special circumstances where it's allowed,
> your
> > hand is soiled in their blood. my hand too, because i didn't stand to
> defend
> > them.
> >
> > >with biological and weapons, which CANNOT be contained like communism. We
> >
> > they didn't find these weapons so far, and they weren't found before the
> > war, right ? or you attack for the possibilty even ?
> >
> > >HAVE to take action against ANT THREAT before it can even get here. So
> it's
> > >all about life or dead.
> >
> > It's all about innocent blood shed, but our god is fair, and days will
> make
> > everyone responsible for innocent blood pay for it.
> >
> > >I hope the US continues to be PROACTIVE in the face of biological or
> > >chemical threats and I hope some day the world understands that because
> > >from
> > >now on there is no turning back.
> >
> > you remind me of the matrix movie, no turning back, are they a herd of
> > sheeps that you kill them with "no turning back" ? they are humans we
> should
> > think 1000000 times before we kill one of them. return to justice plz.
> >
> > your speech is no longer about justice, it's about pre-protection of
> yours,
> > which means killing innocent children, and you could have avoided it if
> you
> > didn't become our center of hatred, by what you did along the years with
> our
> > brothers in palastine, now you are even going further, but there's a god
> > above, who sees you, and hears you.
> >
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Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!

[Santiago <sa...@ho...>]

Firstable, my apologies for the CAPS. I've tried to keep quiet for too long
now and I just had enough of this anti-American senseless garbage all over.
It's not only by the means of internet access but thanks for the site.
Indeed, let's review your source of data facts:
Demographics

  a.. According to IDATE, 9.8% of the population worldwide had access to the
Internet in 2002, up from 7.9% in 2001. IDATE estimates that the figure will
reach 15.8% by 2006. The company also provided Internet penetration levels
by international regions in 2002: (estimate for 2006 are shown in brackets)
    a.. North America: 66.7% (81.0%)

    b.. Western Europe (including Scandinavia): 37.9% (51.4%)

    c.. Eastern Europe (including Russia): 7.0% (15.4%)

    d.. Asia-Pacific: 6.4% (13.3%)

    e.. Latin America: 5.4% (9.1%)

    f.. Africa/Middle East (including Turkey and South Africa): 1.1% (3.1%)
  (eMarketer Daily - Issue 54, March 2003)
Taken from:   http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=10

This is all besides the fact that Americans have been to more foreign
countries and visited their cultures more then any citizen in the planet.
Besides that (hate it or not) America is the most culturally diverse country
in the world where even foreign American haters living and working here have
the freedom the express their views without legal reprisal. Let me know if
you need more reasons to believe that Americans are the most informed (and
nicest) people out there.
I know that what I say may not be in a classic American politically correct
style. However, while I know hatred my obscure reality, I believe it's time
for a "reality check."

My regards Mr. Per
Santiago




----- Original Message -----
From: "Per Westermark" <pw...@ia...>
To: "Santiago" <sa...@ho...>
Cc: "Khalid El-Kary" <kha...@ho...>;
<Dev...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!


> No, it is NOT a reality that US has 'the best access to WORLD information'
> if you by that mean internet access, and doesn't count the number of spy
> satellites for minding other countries bussiness.
>
> http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2003/02/03/daily25.html
> declares 67% US ADULTS penetration - which of course assumes private
> surfing on company time. Let's go for total population instead, since
> obviously growing up without free access to uncoloured information
> is important...
>
> If you check TOTAL population, check link:
> http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11
>
> 69.8% Iceland
> 67.8% Sweden
> 63.3% Switzerland
> 62.7% Denmark
> 60.8% Netherlands
> 59.6% Hong Kong
> 59.2% Norway
> 57.6% Austria
> 57.3% USA
> 55.9% Canada
> 55.7% South Korea
>
> First of all, it's considered quite rude to shout - using capital letters
> - in news groups and mails.
>
> Second, to shout without checking facts is even worse.
>
> Might it be that you are not an adult, and hence haven't learned correct
> social behavour? My previous post did not contain any information
> requiring a shouted answer.
>
> /Per W
>
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Santiago wrote:
>
> > Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out of
nowhere,
> > then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT dispute the
250,000
> > dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny that,
neither
> > have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm constantly reading
> > sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here in the USA.
The
> > US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" can't work as
a
> > business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more computers
each,
> > all with internet access. So you could say that Americans have the best
> > access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I know you
might
> > hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are but if in
your
> > country 2+2=5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is peaceful. It
all
> > comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the world
where
> > lots of things you enjoy were invented, including computers,computer
> > programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human nature to
hate
> > the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone else
will
> > still want to be like the best.
> > Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county MUST
until
> > there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Khalid El-Kary" <kha...@ho...>
> > To: <Dev...@li...>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:34 PM
> > Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!
> >
> >
> > > Hi again fellow,
> > >
> > > >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue those
poor
> > > >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be peace,
stability,
> > >
> > > so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ?
> > > did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people in groups?
why
> > > do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people
> > > kidding us in war ?
> > > Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people wouldn't have
> > killed
> > > you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to get in,
but
> > this
> > > is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers who are
your
> > > brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a civilian Iraqi
> > woman
> > > kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't love
saddam ?
> > > Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of people
who
> > > went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that Iraqi people
> > love
> > > saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them in
streets ?
> > >
> > > >and much more lives will be saved than if saddam would stay.
> > > >The main purpose of us going in is our defense. Throughout the
history of
> > > >the US and the world, all countries have REACTED to aggression.
> > > >Unfortunatelly,  September 11th, 2001 changed US and world history.
The
> > US
> > >
> > > you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth fellow,
didn't
> > > you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th September ?
would
> > > they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ?
> > > I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand in all
that's
> > > done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ?
> > > I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack wasn't a
pointless
> > > act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting the injust
> > power
> > > of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and killed
innocent
> > > people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is responsible
...
> > one
> > > of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani hospital ?
plz
> > > study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's edited
to
> > > blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may blind us
too
> > by
> > > the way, but I think deeper.
> > >
> > > >is no longer going to REACT, it from now on will PRO-ACT. And that's
> > >
> > > sacrastic again...and kill innocent people in its PRO-ACT ?
> > >
> > > >something the world is going to have to get used to. Before Sep11th,
I
> > > >wou;d
> > >
> > > So you dismiss justice ? i'm worried that saddam is going to be an
angel
> > if
> > > compared with you, return to justice plz.
> > >
> > > >have disagree with the war. But as you know after Sep 11th we were
> > attacked
> > >
> > > Killing children doesn't have special circumstances where it's
allowed,
> > your
> > > hand is soiled in their blood. my hand too, because i didn't stand to
> > defend
> > > them.
> > >
> > > >with biological and weapons, which CANNOT be contained like
communism. We
> > >
> > > they didn't find these weapons so far, and they weren't found before
the
> > > war, right ? or you attack for the possibilty even ?
> > >
> > > >HAVE to take action against ANT THREAT before it can even get here.
So
> > it's
> > > >all about life or dead.
> > >
> > > It's all about innocent blood shed, but our god is fair, and days will
> > make
> > > everyone responsible for innocent blood pay for it.
> > >
> > > >I hope the US continues to be PROACTIVE in the face of biological or
> > > >chemical threats and I hope some day the world understands that
because
> > > >from
> > > >now on there is no turning back.
> > >
> > > you remind me of the matrix movie, no turning back, are they a herd of
> > > sheeps that you kill them with "no turning back" ? they are humans we
> > should
> > > think 1000000 times before we kill one of them. return to justice plz.
> > >
> > > your speech is no longer about justice, it's about pre-protection of
> > yours,
> > > which means killing innocent children, and you could have avoided it
if
> > you
> > > didn't become our center of hatred, by what you did along the years
with
> > our
> > > brothers in palastine, now you are even going further, but there's a
god
> > > above, who sees you, and hears you.
> > >
> > > I'm really sorry for the mailing list, i promise not to post about
this
> > > topic again, it's for Dev-C++ isn't it ? :)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Khalid AL-Kary
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