Thread: Re: [Dev-C++] Windows Applications
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From: <Dan...@ao...> - 2002-04-03 00:43:44
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In a message dated 4/2/2002 1:19:51 PM Central Standard Time, jas...@bt... writes: I would suggest that there is still value in learning Win32 and the related extensions to it. The reason I say this is because .NET is currently only supported by Windows XP and 2000 AFAICT. Many people today still prefer to stick with the older OS's. I have to say I'm more interested in what Sun will come up with to rival .NET, as Java is supported on many OS's and Sun, unlike Microsoft, doesn't have a vested interest in any particular OS and system. My best advise would be wait and see what the future has to offer and hedge your bets, i.e. learn as much as you can in any language/environment This summer Intel is planing to release it's new Itanium platform which is going to turn the world of networking around. According to them, Intel, their new platform architecture will be six times as fast as Risk. This means that there will be a whole new market for software including an OS which I feel Microsoft has covered already. If things go the way as they have in the past eventually there will be a new platform for the desktop users. Itanium is a 64 bit platform. For more info about Itanium goto www.intel.com were you can get the information concerning this new platform better than I can provide. Good Luck from, Danny |
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From: Daniel W. <d_w...@ho...> - 2002-04-03 04:51:23
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Hi, i had never find a tutorial in C++ for windows programming that = covers all of graphics, but this one should be enouh for begin, i will = send it to you by mail... Ahh, also you will need the complete reference to the WINAPIS, here is = the link to download the complete documentation, you should download = it... Bay. Daniel Wilches Maradei http://spiff.tripnet.se/~iczelion/files/win32api.zip |
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From: Jason H. <jas...@bt...> - 2002-04-03 12:55:36
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The Itanium is also not very compatible with old 32bit software, i.e. it = can run it but at slower speeds than current 32 bit processors. I = personally am more interested in the forthcoming Athlon 4s (SledgeHammer = or whatever they're called), which will not only run 64 bit instructions = but the will be fully backward compatible with 32 bit OS's and currently = existing programs (running them faster too), which will be a much more = attractive (cheaper) migration path for many companies. The new athlons = will be released as desktop processors too, whereas I think that the = Itanium is currently mainly for network servers so far? Saying that though intel has a vested interest in bringing current = applications into the 64 bit world, so they will be doing a lot of work = to that end. There are 64 bit versions of Linux and Windows out there = along with other OS's (I imagine). BTW, it is RISC and not Risk. It means Reduced Instruction Set Computer, = as opposed to CISC - Complex Instruction Set Computer, which is the = current PC norm. Both types have benefits and costs. In modern CISC = chips the interal architecture is often based around a set of RISC cores = which are more easily optimised. Jason. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dan...@ao...=20 To: Dev-C++=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Windows Applications In a message dated 4/2/2002 1:19:51 PM Central Standard Time, = jas...@bt... writes:=20 I would suggest that there is still value in learning Win32 and the = related extensions to it. The=20 reason I say this is because .NET is currently only supported by = Windows XP and 2000 AFAICT. Many=20 people today still prefer to stick with the older OS's. I have to say = I'm more interested in what=20 Sun will come up with to rival .NET, as Java is supported on many OS's = and Sun, unlike Microsoft,=20 doesn't have a vested interest in any particular OS and system.=20 My best advise would be wait and see what the future has to offer and = hedge your bets, i.e. learn as=20 much as you can in any language/environment=20 This summer Intel is planing to release it's new Itanium platform = which is going to turn the world of networking around.=20 According to them, Intel, their new platform architecture will be six = times as fast as Risk.=20 This means that there will be a whole new market for software = including an OS which I feel Microsoft has covered already.=20 If things go the way as they have in the past eventually there will be = a new platform for the desktop users.=20 Itanium is a 64 bit platform.=20 For more info about Itanium goto www.intel.com were you can get the = information concerning this new platform better than I can provide.=20 Good Luck from,=20 Danny=20 |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-04-03 13:13:21
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The 64-bit war is open. There are currently 2 separate paths. Intel's Itanium and AMD's 80x86-64 architecture. Intel says that although it strongly supports Itanium, it will produce a Pentium IV with 64-bit extensions if necesssary. Programmers will be able to use these extensions at will. This is Intel's backup plan. Also keep in mind that Itanium has not so much success as Intel expected. Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net <http://www.noicys.cjb.net/> * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Jason Hardman Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:55 PM To: Dev-C++ Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Windows Applications The Itanium is also not very compatible with old 32bit software, i.e. it can run it but at slower speeds than current 32 bit processors. I personally am more interested in the forthcoming Athlon 4s (SledgeHammer or whatever they're called), which will not only run 64 bit instructions but the will be fully backward compatible with 32 bit OS's and currently existing programs (running them faster too), which will be a much more attractive (cheaper) migration path for many companies. The new athlons will be released as desktop processors too, whereas I think that the Itanium is currently mainly for network servers so far? Saying that though intel has a vested interest in bringing current applications into the 64 bit world, so they will be doing a lot of work to that end. There are 64 bit versions of Linux and Windows out there along with other OS's (I imagine). BTW, it is RISC and not Risk. It means Reduced Instruction Set Computer, as opposed to CISC - Complex Instruction Set Computer, which is the current PC norm. Both types have benefits and costs. In modern CISC chips the interal architecture is often based around a set of RISC cores which are more easily optimised. Jason. |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-04-03 13:01:19
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There is already a 64-bit version of Windows XP for Itanium. Now your favorite 64-bit processor will keep crawling. :P Naturally there is already a 64-bit version of GNU/LINUX for Itanium too. .NET will be for Windows XP/64 too (and all the upcoming 64-bit Microsoft servers). .NET is here to stay for Microsoft. Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net <http://www.noicys.cjb.net/> * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Dan...@ao... Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:43 AM To: Dev-C++ Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Windows Applications In a message dated 4/2/2002 1:19:51 PM Central Standard Time, jas...@bt... writes: I would suggest that there is still value in learning Win32 and the related extensions to it. The reason I say this is because .NET is currently only supported by Windows XP and 2000 AFAICT. Many people today still prefer to stick with the older OS's. I have to say I'm more interested in what Sun will come up with to rival .NET, as Java is supported on many OS's and Sun, unlike Microsoft, doesn't have a vested interest in any particular OS and system. My best advise would be wait and see what the future has to offer and hedge your bets, i.e. learn as much as you can in any language/environment This summer Intel is planing to release it's new Itanium platform which is going to turn the world of networking around. According to them, Intel, their new platform architecture will be six times as fast as Risk. This means that there will be a whole new market for software including an OS which I feel Microsoft has covered already. If things go the way as they have in the past eventually there will be a new platform for the desktop users. Itanium is a 64 bit platform. For more info about Itanium goto www.intel.com were you can get the information concerning this new platform better than I can provide. Good Luck from, Danny |