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From: <onw...@ya...> - 2004-01-27 14:58:01
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HI ALL , SOMETIMES WE ALL GET WORRIED . WE ALSO GET FUSTRATED IN LIFE . THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WE HAVE THAT NO HUMAN BEINGS CAN SOLVE . IN THIS CASE , WE ALL HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO RELY ON THE ALMIGHTY GOD . FOR IF NOT HIS MERCIES , WE WILL BE CONSUMED BY THE FUSTRATIONS AND ALL THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD . NOW THERE ARE SOME SUPERNATURAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ONES LIFE AND WE SAY WE DONT BELIEVE OR THAT ITS IMPOSSIBLE OR WE MAY TAKE IT FOR GRANTED . GOD IS THE PERSON BEHIND ALL THESE THINGS . HE'S (GOD) THE CREATOR AND WANTS U TO REALISE HIS PRESENCE AND NOT TO TAKE HIM 4 GRANTED. WHY NOT ACCEPT HIM IN UR LIFE . GET CONNECTED TO THE HEAVENLY NETWORK AND ENJOY BENEFITS LIKE ETERNAL LIFE , SALVATION , JOY WHICH MONEY CANT BUY AND OTHER SUPERNATURAL / HEAVENLY THINGS WHICH U CANT GET HERE ON EARTH . GET CONNECTED TO THE HEAVENLY NETWORK BY ALLOWING HIM INTO UR LIFE . MAKE HIME UR LORD AND PERSONAL SAVIOUR AND ALL THOSE FUSTRATIONS , UNHAPPINESS AND SUFFERINGS WILL BE OUT COS HE HAS PROMISED "PEACE I GIVE TO U NOT AS THE WORLD GIVES " . TAKE THE DECISION OF ALLOWING HIM INTO UR LIFE NOW . THANKS ONWUKA ARISA (REDEMEED CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD) ________________________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk |
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From: Michael C U. <mu...@cb...> - 2004-01-27 15:56:45
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christian spam?!?! On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, [iso-8859-1] THE OMEGA7 wrote: > SOMETIMES WE ALL GET WORRIED . WE ALSO GET FUSTRATED > IN LIFE . THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WE HAVE THAT NO > HUMAN BEINGS CAN SOLVE . IN THIS CASE , WE ALL HAVE NO > OPTION BUT TO RELY ON THE ALMIGHTY GOD. I HATE TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE, BUT PROGRAMMING IS ALL ABOUT MATH AND LOGIC. AND MATH AND LOGIC ARE IMPERSONAL ENTITIES THAT COULDN'T CARE LESS WHETHER YOU SUCCEED FOR FAIL. SO DON'T RELY ON NON-EXISTANT MYTHICAL BEINGS LIKE "GOD" TO SAVE YOUR ASS. RELY ON YOUR OWN SKILL, LEARNING, ABILITY TO LEARN, AND ON THE SKILL OF YOUR PEERS. BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP YOU SOLVE YOUR PROGRAMMING PROBLEMS. BTW, DO YOU LIKE TO BE YELLED AT? I ASSUME YOU MUST SINCE YOU SURE LIKE TO YELL AT EVERYONE ELSE HERE. |
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From: <or...@vp...> - 2004-01-27 18:52:04
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Michael C Urban wrote: > christian spam?!?! >=20 > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, [iso-8859-1] THE OMEGA7 wrote: >>SOMETIMES WE ALL GET WORRIED . WE ALSO GET FUSTRATED >>IN LIFE . THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WE HAVE THAT NO >>HUMAN BEINGS CAN SOLVE . IN THIS CASE , WE ALL HAVE NO >>OPTION BUT TO RELY ON THE ALMIGHTY GOD. >=20 > I HATE TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE, BUT PROGRAMMING IS ALL ABOUT MATH AND LOGI= C. > AND MATH AND LOGIC ARE IMPERSONAL ENTITIES THAT COULDN'T CARE LESS WHET= HER > YOU SUCCEED FOR FAIL. SO DON'T RELY ON NON-EXISTANT MYTHICAL BEINGS LIK= E > "GOD" TO SAVE YOUR ASS. RELY ON YOUR OWN SKILL, LEARNING, ABILITY TO > LEARN, AND ON THE SKILL OF YOUR PEERS. BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY THING= S > THAT ARE GOING TO HELP YOU SOLVE YOUR PROGRAMMING PROBLEMS. >=20 > BTW, DO YOU LIKE TO BE YELLED AT? I ASSUME YOU MUST SINCE YOU SURE LIKE= TO > YELL AT EVERYONE ELSE HERE. The best answer to the spam is no answer. I am christian myself, and=20 deeply religious. I apologize in the name of the original sender for=20 this spam, and I also express, that this is NOT the way how God wants=20 his believers to spread the faith. Again, sorry for it. This behaviour is not general to all christians (at=20 least, surely not for me), so I hope it hadn't made any prejudices arise=20 in you. -- May God Bless You, Bal=E1zs |
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From: Michael C U. <mu...@cb...> - 2004-01-27 20:32:55
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] OROSZI Bal=E1zs wrote: > Again, sorry for it. This behaviour is not general to all christians (at > least, surely not for me), so I hope it hadn't made any prejudices arise > in you. I don't make it personal unless provoked. Basically, don't try to convert me, don't evangelize me, don't try to justify your beliefs to me, and don't try to convince me you are right and everyone else who doesn't believe (or believes some other religion) is wrong. I get along with christians just fine as long as they can respect that I choose not to believe it, and that I don't want them trying to evangelize me. Mike |
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From: <or...@vp...> - 2004-01-27 23:27:55
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Michael C Urban wrote: > I don't make it personal unless provoked. Basically, don't try to conve= rt > me, don't evangelize me, don't try to justify your beliefs to me, and > don't try to convince me you are right and everyone else who doesn't > believe (or believes some other religion) is wrong. I get along with > christians just fine as long as they can respect that I choose not to > believe it, and that I don't want them trying to evangelize me. As I said before, I *didn't* write that mail, so I'm not trying to=20 "convert" you to anything. -- Greetings, Bal=E1zs |
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From: Michael C U. <mu...@cb...> - 2004-01-28 16:41:59
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] OROSZI Bal=E1zs wrote: > As I said before, I *didn't* write that mail, so I'm not trying to > "convert" you to anything. I didn't say you did. I was simply responding to the thing about prejudice. You can call it prejudice if you want. But I call it reasoned anti-christianity, and I have a lot of reasons for being against christianity. As a biologist who has leared from experience that humans and other animals are really not different from each other except in certain evolutonarily developed traits, I find christianity's idea that humans are above all the other animals to be morally repulsive. I also am not very fond of the fact that christians are always sticking their nose in places where it doesn't belong, so that we have to fight tooth and nail just to get anything done or accepted in science because christians who don't know what they are talking about, and don't understand even basic biological concepts, have powerful lobbying groups that try to undermine science. (Did you know that as late as the 1960s, it was still illegal in some areas for teachers to teach Darwin's concepts of evolution in classrooms?) So call it whatever you want. But I don't call it prejudice when I can historically document my reasons for being opposed to christianity. Mike |
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From: <or...@vp...> - 2004-01-28 17:29:36
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Hi all! Michael C Urban wrote: > I didn't say you did. I was simply responding to the thing about > prejudice. You can call it prejudice if you want. But I call it reasone= d > anti-christianity, and I have a lot of reasons for being against > christianity. As a biologist who has leared from experience that humans > and other animals are really not different from each other except in > certain evolutonarily developed traits, I find christianity's idea that > humans are above all the other animals to be morally repulsive. I also = am > not very fond of the fact that christians are always sticking their nos= e > in places where it doesn't belong, so that we have to fight tooth and n= ail > just to get anything done or accepted in science because christians who > don't know what they are talking about, and don't understand even basic > biological concepts, have powerful lobbying groups that try to undermin= e > science. (Did you know that as late as the 1960s, it was still illegal = in > some areas for teachers to teach Darwin's concepts of evolution in > classrooms?) >=20 > So call it whatever you want. But I don't call it prejudice when I can > historically document my reasons for being opposed to christianity. I don't think this is the right list to express your hatred against=20 christianity. If you think science is the privilege of anti-christians, I should point=20 out that a good majority of great scientists was, and even today are=20 religious (at least in Europe). Even I study on a religious University,=20 where we learn molecular and neural biology, and computer science (or IT=20 for short). You might take a look at the site of my University and read some of it's=20 papers to understand how Fides et Ratio can work together: http://www.itk.ppke.hu/index_e.html -- Greetings, Bal=E1zs John 3:15 |
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From: Michael C U. <mu...@cb...> - 2004-01-28 21:10:01
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] OROSZI Bal=E1zs wrote: > If you think science is the privilege of anti-christians, I should point > out that a good majority of great scientists was, and even today are > religious (at least in Europe). Religion doesn't have a problem with many sciences. But Animal Behavior is not one of them. It has been my experience, and the experience of many other animal behavior scientists, that religion often has huge problems with our work. My response to those people would be to quote an article that came out shortly after Darwin published his theory. "If Darwin's theory should be true, it will not degrade man. Rather, it will simply elevate the rest of the animal kingdom into dignity." Mike |
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From: Maya <Esc...@ne...> - 2004-01-31 04:25:24
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Religion has not value in the science realm. Religion is based on faith, and the absolute value of it is the corner stone of any religion. Science on the other hand makes no attempt to apply faith to any of its certainties, or lack of it for that matter. Please leave it at that, don't pursue this issue any longer. I realize this topic is important to you, but it is taking space in a mail group that does not deal with that area of life. I would *very* strongly suggest that you move this line of emails to either a personal [email to email] level or to alt.religion.... news group. In other words, knock it off kids! Have a good one, and if you are going to have more than one.... give me shout, eh! mu...@cb... wrote: >On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] OROSZI Balázs wrote: > > > >>As I said before, I *didn't* write that mail, so I'm not trying to >>"convert" you to anything. >> >> > >I didn't say you did. I was simply responding to the thing about >prejudice. You can call it prejudice if you want. But I call it reasoned >anti-christianity, and I have a lot of reasons for being against >christianity. As a biologist who has leared from experience that humans >and other animals are really not different from each other except in >certain evolutonarily developed traits, I find christianity's idea that >humans are above all the other animals to be morally repulsive. I also am >not very fond of the fact that christians are always sticking their nose >in places where it doesn't belong, so that we have to fight tooth and nail >just to get anything done or accepted in science because christians who >don't know what they are talking about, and don't understand even basic >biological concepts, have powerful lobbying groups that try to undermine >science. (Did you know that as late as the 1960s, it was still illegal in >some areas for teachers to teach Darwin's concepts of evolution in >classrooms?) > >So call it whatever you want. But I don't call it prejudice when I can >historically document my reasons for being opposed to christianity. > >Mike > > >------------------------------------------------------- >The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 >Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration >See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. >http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn >_______________________________________________ >Dev-cpp-users mailing list >Dev...@li... >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > > -- FYI http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html E-Mail Policy http://www.vif.com/users/escalante/Email_Policy.html * You cannot exercise your power to a point of humiliation. - Jean Chretien * The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. - Malcom X * "Innocent until proven guilty", no... not in Canada!! |
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From: RUDOLPH <ku...@sp...> - 2004-01-31 17:14:15
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Well said Maya!! :-) NOW WE FIND THERE IS NO FUSTRATION IN C++ WHEN , ONE APPLY THE RULES OF C++ , IN THE REALM OF MACHINES, THAT IS SOFTWARES THAT RUNS THEM. Rudolph ;-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maya" <Esc...@ne...> To: "Dev-C++ Mailing List" <dev...@li...> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] fustrations in c++ > Religion has not value in the science realm. Religion is based on faith, > and the absolute value of it is the corner stone of any religion. > Science on the other hand makes no attempt to apply faith to any of its > certainties, or lack of it for that matter. > Please leave it at that, don't pursue this issue any longer. I realize > this topic is important to you, but it is taking space in a mail group > that does not deal with that area of life. I would *very* strongly > suggest that you move this line of emails to either a personal [email to > email] level or to alt.religion.... news group. > In other words, knock it off kids! > Have a good one, and if you are going to have more than one.... give me > shout, eh! > > > |
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From: Maya <Esc...@ne...> - 2004-01-31 19:15:15
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OK? ku...@sp... wrote: >Well said Maya!! :-) > >NOW WE FIND THERE IS NO FUSTRATION IN C++ WHEN , ONE APPLY THE RULES OF >C++ , IN THE REALM OF MACHINES, THAT IS SOFTWARES THAT RUNS THEM. > >Rudolph ;-)) > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maya" <Esc...@ne...> >To: "Dev-C++ Mailing List" <dev...@li...> >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:08 AM >Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] fustrations in c++ > > > > >>Religion has not value in the science realm. Religion is based on faith, >>and the absolute value of it is the corner stone of any religion. >>Science on the other hand makes no attempt to apply faith to any of its >>certainties, or lack of it for that matter. >>Please leave it at that, don't pursue this issue any longer. I realize >>this topic is important to you, but it is taking space in a mail group >>that does not deal with that area of life. I would *very* strongly >>suggest that you move this line of emails to either a personal [email to >>email] level or to alt.religion.... news group. >>In other words, knock it off kids! >>Have a good one, and if you are going to have more than one.... give me >>shout, eh! >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- FYI http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html E-Mail Policy http://www.vif.com/users/escalante/Email_Policy.html * You cannot exercise your power to a point of humiliation. - Jean Chretien * The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. - Malcom X * "Innocent until proven guilty", no... not in Canada!! |
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From: Scott S. <age...@co...> - 2004-01-31 20:41:02
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Lets just leave this topic in the dust. This could become a flame war at any second, and I don't want this to offend anymore people. If we aren't going to stop this, at least only e-mail it to those who want to hear it. Maya wrote: > OK? > > ku...@sp... wrote: > >>Well said Maya!! :-) >> >>NOW WE FIND THERE IS NO FUSTRATION IN C++ WHEN , ONE APPLY THE RULES OF >>C++ , IN THE REALM OF MACHINES, THAT IS SOFTWARES THAT RUNS THEM. >> >>Rudolph ;-)) >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Maya" <Esc...@ne...> >>To: "Dev-C++ Mailing List" <dev...@li...> >>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:08 AM >>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] fustrations in c++ >> >> >> >> >>>Religion has not value in the science realm. Religion is based on faith, >>>and the absolute value of it is the corner stone of any religion. >>>Science on the other hand makes no attempt to apply faith to any of its >>>certainties, or lack of it for that matter. >>>Please leave it at that, don't pursue this issue any longer. I realize >>>this topic is important to you, but it is taking space in a mail group >>>that does not deal with that area of life. I would *very* strongly >>>suggest that you move this line of emails to either a personal [email to >>>email] level or to alt.religion.... news group. >>>In other words, knock it off kids! >>>Have a good one, and if you are going to have more than one.... give me >>>shout, eh! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >-- > >FYI >http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html > >E-Mail Policy >http://www.vif.com/users/escalante/Email_Policy.html > >* You cannot exercise your power to a point of humiliation. > - Jean Chretien > >* The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the > power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty > innocent, and that's power. > - Malcom X >* "Innocent until proven guilty", no... not in Canada!! > > |
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From: Maya <Esc...@ne...> - 2004-04-22 15:59:21
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I could not agree more!! or...@vp... wrote: > Maya wrote: > >> Religion has not value in the science realm. Religion is based on >> faith, and the absolute value of it is the corner stone of any >> religion. Science on the other hand makes no attempt to apply faith >> to any of its certainties, or lack of it for that matter. >> Please leave it at that, don't pursue this issue any longer. I >> realize this topic is important to you, but it is taking space in a >> mail group that does not deal with that area of life. I would *very* >> strongly suggest that you move this line of emails to either a >> personal [email to email] level or to alt.religion.... news group. >> In other words, knock it off kids! >> Have a good one, and if you are going to have more than one.... give >> me shout, eh! > > > I think this case was closed, so I don't want to hear anything about > it anymore. This is a programming list, so keep yourself to it please. > > -- > Greetings, > Balázs > -- FYI http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/abbrev.html E-Mail Policy http://www.vif.com/users/escalante/Email_Policy.html * You cannot exercise your power to a point of humiliation. - Jean Chretien * The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. - Malcom X * "Innocent until proven guilty", no... not in Canada!! |
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From: <onw...@ya...> - 2004-01-28 12:44:43
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hi all , i am actually sorry . i did not know that using capitals means shouting at some one. i was ignorant of this fact . i hope that u all have forgiven me . actually , its not a force to be a christian but actually , u do have to make peope to realize the existence of the supernatural being (GOD) in everything we are doing okay . this msg is not to hurt any one . plz . ________________________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk |
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From: <or...@vp...> - 2004-01-28 23:19:18
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THE OMEGA7 wrote: > i am actually sorry . i did not know that using > capitals means shouting at some one. i was ignorant of > this fact . i hope that u all have forgiven me . > actually , its not a force to be a christian but > actually , u do have to make peope to realize the > existence of the supernatural being (GOD) in > everything we are doing okay .=20 >=20 > this msg is not to hurt any one . plz .=20 It is okay, no hurt was done, it's simply... does not belong here,=20 really. This is a programming list after all :) So lets say all is forgiven, and end this case, okay? -- Greetings, Bal=E1zs |
