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[Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium

[Ioannis V. <iv...@em...>]

According with the current preliminary info Longhorn will have 3 GUI
options. Full use experience, medium user experience, and the current 2D
style GUI stuff for older machines.

Palladium will not search your mp3s so as to check them (although in a =
sense
media player is currently already doing it). Palladium safeguards what
information is sent to the internet so as to protect your privacy, or =
what
software you are running according to the user's criteria. That is if =
the
sender sends you an mp3 file and specifies it to not be copied to a cd =
or to
be forwarded to someone else, you will not be able to do it. If you send =
an
email and specify it to be erased after 3 days, it will happen.

In a sense, the sender and the receiver must both agree. Nothing you do =
not
agree will not happen in your PC. That in theory of course.


I find it difficult that someone out there will not have modified =
hardware,
but it will be more difficult to do  bad things than what it is now. =
That
said, I think that the cat and mouse run will keep going, that is new
security measures will be added while the old ones will be getting
circumvented.

Even XBOX  with high security measures in hardware level was cracked, =
and
even Linux can run on it.


That's all for now, I am getting to my VC++ .NET book now.



Ioannis Vranos
=20
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
* Alternative URL 1: http://run.to/noicys
* Alternative URL 2: http://www.noicys.cjb.net

[Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium

[Ioannis V. <iv...@em...>]

According with the current preliminary info Longhorn will have 3 GUI
options. Full use experience, medium user experience, and the current 2D
style GUI stuff for older machines.

Palladium will not search your mp3s so as to check them (although in a =
sense
media player is currently already doing it). Palladium safeguards what
information is sent to the internet so as to protect your privacy, or =
what
software you are running according to the user's criteria. That is if =
the
sender sends you an mp3 file and specifies it to not be copied to a cd =
or to
be forwarded to someone else, you will not be able to do it. If you send =
an
email and specify it to be erased after 3 days, it will happen.

In a sense, the sender and the receiver must both agree. Nothing you do =
not
agree will not happen in your PC. That in theory of course.


I find it difficult that someone out there will not have modified =
hardware,
but it will be more difficult to do  bad things than what it is now. =
That
said, I think that the cat and mouse run will keep going, that is new
security measures will be added while the old ones will be getting
circumvented.

Even XBOX  with high security measures in hardware level was cracked, =
and
even Linux can run on it.


That's all for now, I am getting to my VC++ .NET book now.



Ioannis Vranos
=20
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
* Alternative URL 1: http://run.to/noicys
* Alternative URL 2: http://www.noicys.cjb.net

Re: [Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium

[<or...@vp...>]

Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> Palladium will not search your mp3s so as to check them (although in a sense
> media player is currently already doing it). Palladium safeguards what
> information is sent to the internet so as to protect your privacy, or what
> software you are running according to the user's criteria. That is if the
> sender sends you an mp3 file and specifies it to not be copied to a cd or to
> be forwarded to someone else, you will not be able to do it. If you send an
> email and specify it to be erased after 3 days, it will happen.

I see. So OTHERS can limit your freedom on YOUR OWN machine - I must 
laugh ***.

> In a sense, the sender and the receiver must both agree. Nothing you do not
> agree will not happen in your PC. That in theory of course.

But you said, that email will be deleted after 3 days. Now it will, or not?

> Even XBOX  with high security measures in hardware level was cracked, and
> even Linux can run on it.

Linux can run everywhere :)

> That's all for now, I am getting to my VC++ .NET book now.

You mean, your "How to write incompatible, non-standard programs" book?
Sorry, it was a must :) - I simply hate M$...

--
Greetings,
   Balázs

RE: [Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium

[Ioannis V. <iv...@at...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li...=20
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of OROSZI Balazs
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 4:10 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium
>=20
>=20
> I see. So OTHERS can limit your freedom on YOUR OWN machine - I must=20
> laugh ***.
>=20
> > In a sense, the sender and the receiver must both agree.=20
> Nothing you do not
> > agree will not happen in your PC. That in theory of course.
>=20
> But you said, that email will be deleted after 3 days. Now it=20
> will, or not?



Yes. But you can to not receive if you want. :)


=20
> > Even XBOX  with high security measures in hardware level=20
> was cracked, and
> > even Linux can run on it.
>=20
> Linux can run everywhere :)


It took years to crack XBOX to make it feasible.



=20
> > That's all for now, I am getting to my VC++ .NET book now.
>=20
> You mean, your "How to write incompatible, non-standard=20
> programs" book?
> Sorry, it was a must :) - I simply hate M$...



I did not say l like MS. I am justing providing the list with some
developments in the MS world. :) I am not an MS fanatic.

Except of that, any API usage is non-standard. Regarding ISO conformance =
I
must say although (as with other things) they were completely idiots the
latest VC++ .NET 2003 is highly standard conformant. Btw .NET is a very =
easy
API, I really hate Win32 API (which also came from MS).




Ioannis Vranos
=20
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
* Alternative URL 1: http://run.to/noicys
* Alternative URL 2: http://www.noicys.cjb.net

RE: [Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium

[Per W. <pw...@ia...>]

Was it 4-6 month it took for the first good-enough X-Box crack? Now there
exists a large number of work-arounds for getting the hands on your
lawfully purchased machine.

/Per W

On Thu, 8 May 2003, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > Of OROSZI Balazs
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 4:10 PM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium
> >
> >
> > I see. So OTHERS can limit your freedom on YOUR OWN machine - I must
> > laugh ***.
> >
> > > In a sense, the sender and the receiver must both agree.
> > Nothing you do not
> > > agree will not happen in your PC. That in theory of course.
> >
> > But you said, that email will be deleted after 3 days. Now it
> > will, or not?
>
>
>
> Yes. But you can to not receive if you want. :)
>
>
>
> > > Even XBOX  with high security measures in hardware level
> > was cracked, and
> > > even Linux can run on it.
> >
> > Linux can run everywhere :)
>
>
> It took years to crack XBOX to make it feasible.
>
>
>
>
> > > That's all for now, I am getting to my VC++ .NET book now.
> >
> > You mean, your "How to write incompatible, non-standard
> > programs" book?
> > Sorry, it was a must :) - I simply hate M$...
>
>
>
> I did not say l like MS. I am justing providing the list with some
> developments in the MS world. :) I am not an MS fanatic.
>
> Except of that, any API usage is non-standard. Regarding ISO conformance I
> must say although (as with other things) they were completely idiots the
> latest VC++ .NET 2003 is highly standard conformant. Btw .NET is a very easy
> API, I really hate Win32 API (which also came from MS).
>
>
>
>
> Ioannis Vranos
>
> * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
> * Alternative URL 1: http://run.to/noicys
> * Alternative URL 2: http://www.noicys.cjb.net
>
>
>
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Re: [Dev-C++] Some more notes about Longhron/Palladium

[<or...@vp...>]

Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> Yes. But you can to not receive if you want. :)

Again, this is ridiculous...

> It took years to crack XBOX to make it feasible.

But they did it! :)

> I did not say l like MS. I am justing providing the list with some
> developments in the MS world. :) I am not an MS fanatic.

BTW, thank you for info on M$ development. Anyway, I have never even 
heard of Longhorn. I heared first from you :)
I may be considered an anti-M$ fanatic then :)

> Except of that, any API usage is non-standard. Regarding ISO conformance I
> must say although (as with other things) they were completely idiots the
> latest VC++ .NET 2003 is highly standard conformant. Btw .NET is a very easy
> API, I really hate Win32 API (which also came from MS).

*I hate both!* :)
That's why I use wxWindows!

--
Greetings,
   Balázs