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From: Santiago P. C. <San...@yd...> - 2002-07-30 12:01:42
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Hi *, We are talking about helping in the development, bug-fixing tasks and to extend IDE functionality, not only IDE speed. While talking about "a drawback to advance faster" we are talking about these tasks, not only 'the speed the IDE runs at'... Think about this, AFAIK some features (like code completion or syntax highlighting based on custom/personalized code libraries) DO need some sp= eed from the IDE ;o) BTW, C++ is also a high level programming language (as VB or Delphi), so = you can write pure C++ code without worrying about low level programming deta= ils and achieve really fast & small programs... (Just take a look at point 4 from this interview to Bjarne Stroustrup http://www.research.att.com/~bs/nantes-interview-english.html =3D8-O ) Anyway, it was only a suggestion... I like Dev-C++, but I'd like it more = and more if it was written in C++ ;oD Regards, Santy PS: For those really interested in writing assembler code, there's Visual= Assembler IDE also available at http://www.vasm.orm enjoy it! };oP -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Alzate [mailto:jor...@ep...]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:32 PM To: dev...@li... Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 Cristian Teodorescu escribi=F3: Abhijit Shylanath wrote: >>><Ioannis Vranos words> >>>Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs >since we=20 >>>all would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona,=20 >>>>facilities. </Ioannis Vranos words> >>> >>>I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to=20 >>>linux version but we could help to windoze version; so we all can=20 >>>improve Dev-C++ >>>=20 >>> >>development >>=20 >> >>>adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... >>> >>>It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP >>> >>>Best regards, Santy >>>=20 >>> >> >>I dunno, it seems to me that porting Dev to C++ from Delphi would be almost >>like writing a whole new IDE form the ground up... which *is* an idea, = >>but is pointless since Dev's come so far. >> >Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i it >will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. >Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in games?, In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more than appropiated for GUI desi= gn in the opposite side those are futile, and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board fo= r high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code1 _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and inten= ded solely=20 for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. No co= nfidentiality=20 or privilege is waived or lost by any wrong transmission.=20 If you have received this message in error, please immediately destroy it= =20and kindly=20 notify the sender by reply email. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, o= r copy any=20 part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Opinions, con= clusions and=20 other information in this message that do not relate to the official busi= ness of=20 Ydilo Advanced Voice Solutions, S.A. shall be understood as neither given= =20nor endorsed by it.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- |
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From: Santiago P. C. <San...@yd...> - 2002-07-30 14:08:13
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Unfortunately, yes :o( Sorry for pointing out a link that I've not checked since some time ago..= . But the message dates July 9th 2002, not so long ago... Anyway, there's been a lot of time since I don't need to use assembler...= =20:) Santy -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:ro...@us...]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:15 PM To: dev...@li... Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 It appears that http://www.vasm.org has fallen by the wayside. There is o= nly a single page there referring readers to an alternative assembler project= . Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of=20 > Santiago Palmier Campos > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:01 AM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > Hi *, > > We are talking about helping in the development, bug-fixing tasks and=20 > to extend IDE functionality, not only IDE speed. While talking about=20 > "a drawback to advance faster" we are talking about these tasks, not=20 > only 'the speed the IDE runs at'... > > Think about this, AFAIK some features (like code completion or syntax=20 > highlighting based on custom/personalized code libraries) DO need some = > speed from the IDE ;o) > > BTW, C++ is also a high level programming language (as VB or Delphi),=20 > so you can write pure C++ code without worrying about low level > programming details > and achieve really fast & small programs... (Just take a look at point = 4 > from this interview to Bjarne Stroustrup > http://www.research.att.com/~bs/nantes-interview-english.html =3D8-O ) > > Anyway, it was only a suggestion... I like Dev-C++, but I'd like it=20 > more and more if it was written in C++ ;oD > > Regards, Santy > PS: For those really interested in writing assembler code, there's=20 > Visual Assembler IDE also available at http://www.vasm.orm enjoy it!=20 > };oP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Alzate [mailto:jor...@ep...] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:32 PM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > Cristian Teodorescu escribi=F3: > > Abhijit Shylanath wrote: > > >>><Ioannis Vranos words> > >>>Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs >since we=20 > >>>all would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, > >>>>facilities. </Ioannis Vranos words> > >>> > >>>I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to=20 > >>>linux version but we could help to windoze version; so we all can=20 > >>>improve Dev-C++ > >>> > >>> > >>development > >> > >> > >>>adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... > >>> > >>>It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway...=20 > >>>;oP > >>> > >>>Best regards, Santy > >>> > >>> > >> > >>I dunno, it seems to me that porting Dev to C++ from Delphi would be > almost > >>like writing a whole new IDE form the ground up... which *is* an=20 > >>idea, but is pointless since Dev's come so far. > >> > >Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i=20 > >it will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. Don't forget=20 > >all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... > > I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in games?, In=20 > other > words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more than appropiated for > GUI design > in the opposite side those are futile, and then C++ and assembler they > enter, if you like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in > assembler :) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board = > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today!=20 > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code1 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential > and intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. No confidentiality > or privilege is waived or lost by any wrong transmission. > If you have received this message in error, please immediately > destroy it and kindly > notify the sender by reply email. > You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, > print, or copy any > part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. > Opinions, conclusions and > other information in this message that do not relate to the > official business of > Ydilo Advanced Voice Solutions, S.A. shall be understood as > neither given nor endorsed by it. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board = > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today!=20 > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code1 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board fo= r high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=3D31 _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and inten= ded solely=20 for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. No co= nfidentiality=20 or privilege is waived or lost by any wrong transmission.=20 If you have received this message in error, please immediately destroy it= =20and kindly=20 notify the sender by reply email. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, o= r copy any=20 part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Opinions, con= clusions and=20 other information in this message that do not relate to the official busi= ness of=20 Ydilo Advanced Voice Solutions, S.A. shall be understood as neither given= =20nor endorsed by it.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- |
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From: Hongli L. <h....@ch...> - 2002-07-30 21:38:55
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Guys, guys, you are forgetting one important thing: How in the world am I supposed to get a free copy of Borland C++ Builder? (Dev-C++ is for Win32 remember?) I lost contact with my national warez dealer a year ago so warez isn't an option :-) |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-07-30 22:02:31
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> -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Hongli Lai > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:45 AM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > Guys, guys, you are forgetting one important thing: > > How in the world am I supposed to get a free copy of Borland C++ > Builder? There are trial versions of Borland C++ Builder, but that means you have to be fast in development. :) Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys |
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From: Brian C. B. <bri...@ho...> - 2002-07-30 23:29:32
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Hi all, Personally, I think the idea of re-writing Dev-C++ in C++ is pretty counter productive, but for those who want to - its your time and your effort. I'm not going to spend time trying to persuade you to do it or not. If you want to, then do it. If not, then don't. End of story. > How in the world am I supposed to get a free copy of Borland C++ > Builder? (Dev-C++ is for Win32 remember?) > I lost contact with my national warez dealer a year ago so warez isn't > an option :-) I don't think the idea was to use Borland C++ Builder (if you had that, you would already have a pretty darn good IDE - probably a lot better than Dev-C++ as it commercial software). I think the idea was to make Dev-C++ interfaceable (is that a word?) to other compilers. Borland C++ Compiler is just the command line C++ compiler like MinGW and it is pretty good. Borland offers this package as a free download (you only have to register and take a survey) at http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_cbuilder.html . Just download the second link (named Compiler). Personally, it doesn't matter too much to me what compiler Dev-C++ uses - MinGW, Cygwin, or Borland. I just wanted to correct the records here. MinGW seems to fit better with Dev-C++'s open-source theme, however. Also, I want to say that I really enjoy using Dev-C++ - it is great software and I am looking forward to its future. Many thanks to the developers. Sincerely, Brian Becker Shall we accept good from God, and not trouble? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/20/2002 |
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From: Rob <ro...@us...> - 2002-07-30 13:58:06
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It appears that http://www.vasm.org has fallen by the wayside. There is only a single page there referring readers to an alternative assembler project. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Santiago > Palmier Campos > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:01 AM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > Hi *, > > We are talking about helping in the development, bug-fixing tasks and to > extend IDE functionality, not only IDE speed. > While talking about "a drawback to advance faster" we are talking about > these tasks, not only 'the speed the IDE runs at'... > > Think about this, AFAIK some features (like code completion or syntax > highlighting based on custom/personalized code libraries) DO need > some speed > from the IDE ;o) > > BTW, C++ is also a high level programming language (as VB or > Delphi), so you > can write pure C++ code without worrying about low level > programming details > and achieve really fast & small programs... (Just take a look at point 4 > from this interview to Bjarne Stroustrup > http://www.research.att.com/~bs/nantes-interview-english.html =8-O ) > > Anyway, it was only a suggestion... I like Dev-C++, but I'd like > it more and > more if it was written in C++ ;oD > > Regards, Santy > PS: For those really interested in writing assembler code, there's Visual > Assembler IDE also available at http://www.vasm.orm enjoy it! };oP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorge Alzate [mailto:jor...@ep...] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:32 PM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > Cristian Teodorescu escribió: > > Abhijit Shylanath wrote: > > >>><Ioannis Vranos words> > >>>Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs >since we > >>>all would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, > >>>>facilities. </Ioannis Vranos words> > >>> > >>>I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to > >>>linux version but we could help to windoze version; so we all can > >>>improve Dev-C++ > >>> > >>> > >>development > >> > >> > >>>adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... > >>> > >>>It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP > >>> > >>>Best regards, Santy > >>> > >>> > >> > >>I dunno, it seems to me that porting Dev to C++ from Delphi would be > almost > >>like writing a whole new IDE form the ground up... which *is* an idea, > >>but is pointless since Dev's come so far. > >> > >Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i it > >will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. > >Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... > > I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in games?, In other > words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more than appropiated for > GUI design > in the opposite side those are futile, and then C++ and assembler they > enter, if you like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in > assembler :) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board for > high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code1 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential > and intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. No confidentiality > or privilege is waived or lost by any wrong transmission. > If you have received this message in error, please immediately > destroy it and kindly > notify the sender by reply email. > You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, > print, or copy any > part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. > Opinions, conclusions and > other information in this message that do not relate to the > official business of > Ydilo Advanced Voice Solutions, S.A. shall be understood as > neither given nor endorsed by it. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code1 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > |
