dev-cpp-users

Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++

[Colin L. <col...@wa...>]

Hi,

> Well the leader is currently very busy. :) I am learning C++ and .NET .
> Also the Dev-C++ is copyright and child of Colin Laplace. My suggestion
> of C++ coded Dev-C++ was introduced many times in the past by me to
> persuade Colin. :) But Colin is a Delphi dude.

well now i'm not really a "Delphi dude" anymore ;) but I still think it is a 
very productive tool for developing on Windows 

> I have not much time to
> devote to a possible Dev-C++ rewritting in C++ from scratch, i am just
> asking it from the people who have time and do this (the current Dev-C++
> development team Colin Laplace, Hongli Lai and the rest of people). I
> have time only to bug fix things and add some facilities here and there
> and say some suggestion.

You know i don't really like that idea. Dev-C++ is becoming quite
full-featured, so rewritting everything in C++ would be a real pain, and not 
really a benefit for the end user.

Greetings,
Colin

RE: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li... 
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Colin Laplace
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:57 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++
> 
> 
> You know i don't really like that idea. Dev-C++ is becoming quite
> full-featured, so rewritting everything in C++ would be a 
> real pain, and not 
> really a benefit for the end user.


Yes but everything new could be written with C++ Builder which includes
a Delphi compiler. Builder C++ code and Delphi code can interoperate.
Well it is just my suggestion. I simply believe that Dev-C++ would be
more stable, and why not with more features, if it was a written in C++.
Naturally the decision belongs to you & the development team. I am just
a user. 


Ioannis

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Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++

[Colin L. <col...@wa...>]

Hi,

> Yes but everything new could be written with C++ Builder which includes
> a Delphi compiler. Builder C++ code and Delphi code can interoperate.
> Well it is just my suggestion. I simply believe that Dev-C++ would be
> more stable, and why not with more features, if it was a written in C++.
> Naturally the decision belongs to you & the development team. I am just
> a user.

well if both can coexist and without loss then why not, but as far i know C++ 
Builder is not free, contrary to Delphi 6 (the personal version is free).

Greetings,
Colin

RE: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li... 
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Colin Laplace
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:12 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++
> 
> well if both can coexist and without loss then why not, but 
> as far i know C++ 
> Builder is not free, contrary to Delphi 6 (the personal 
> version is free).

Yes there are only trial versions of Builder. However there are free
Kylix 3 versions and soon will be available for downloading. Kylix 3
includes a C++ compiler too. Also what will you do if Delphi stops being
free in the future?


Ioannis

* Ioannis Vranos
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Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++

[Hongli L. <h....@ch...>]

Ioannis Vranos wrote:

>Yes there are only trial versions of Builder. However there are free
>Kylix 3 versions and soon will be available for downloading. Kylix 3
>includes a C++ compiler too. Also what will you do if Delphi stops being
>free in the future?
>  
>

Contiue using Delphi 6 PE forever :p

RE: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev-C++ to C++

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hongli Lai [mailto:h....@ch...] 
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:42 PM
> To: Ioannis Vranos
> Cc: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++
> 
> 
> Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> 
> >Yes there are only trial versions of Builder. However there are free
> >Kylix 3 versions and soon will be available for downloading. Kylix 3
> >includes a C++ compiler too. Also what will you do if Delphi 
> stops being
> >free in the future?
> >
> >
> 
> Contiue using Delphi 6 PE forever :p


:))) Anyway i am learning .NET and may be some day, i 'll begin porting
Dev-C++ to C++ and .NET. I think that the rewriting of 
Dev-C++ in the future to be inevitable; VCL to be abandoned, Delphi to
stop being free (although PEs are always relatively cheap), Delphi to be
abandoned in favour of Charlotte or something. :) [The list is sorted
from the most possible to the most less possible to happen].


So when the rewriting happens, please do it in C++ (and probably i 'll
join the development team that time).


Ioannis

* Ioannis Vranos
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[Dev-C++] dev-c++ bug

[<h.r...@gm...>]

Hi,

in the latest version of dev-c++ (4.9.5.0) there is a bug (i think so). If
the cursor is over a varialename normally it shows a hint about type but
sometimes (often) open 8 up to 16 errorwindows with the message:
"list out of bounds(149)" or "list out of bounds(150)"

regards
Horst

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Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++

[Abhijit S. <mu...@gm...>]

Greets.

> > I have not much time to
> > devote to a possible Dev-C++ rewritting in C++ from scratch, i am just
> > asking it from the people who have time and do this (the current Dev-C++
> > development team Colin Laplace, Hongli Lai and the rest of people). I
> > have time only to bug fix things and add some facilities here and there
> > and say some suggestion.
>
> You know i don't really like that idea. Dev-C++ is becoming quite
> full-featured, so rewritting everything in C++ would be a real pain, and
not
> really a benefit for the end user.

Yes, but isn't it therefore better to start the re-writing right now, before
Dev becomes even more complex? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the
license for Delphi is for personal use only, and executables cannot be
distributed. So actually, you should be distributing only the code, and have
us compile it to use it (for which we'd need Delphi). If Delphi's free
version kicks the bucket one day (God forbid :) then you cannot continue the
development of Dev. You won't have this problem if you port to C++, since we
will *always* have GCC.

Also, about not benefitting the end user, I beg to differ, since the
end-users here are programmers who would love to go through the code and
offer suggestions and bug-fixes. The time you lose in rewriting will be made
up by the number of additional inputs you get from User Sources (us :).

A suggestion, if anyone decides to re-write in C++, is to re-write modularly
(aka UNIXly), so that every module does only one task. The Delphi source can
be modified to call these modules (using DLLs). For example, the editor
window can be contained in one module, the class browser in another. When
you reach the point of having converted every module, all that remains is to
rewrite the main code in C++. I know this isn't as simple as it seems, and I
know I don't know how easy it will be; this is just a suggestion.

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