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From: Andrew F. <dwa...@ho...> - 2003-07-29 12:48:38
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From: Smurf, P. <smu...@xs...> - 2003-07-29 19:14:35
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Hi, I'm a beginner too and I think DevCPP is perfect for beginners. For two reasons its free and not bloated. The bloat of Visual Studio may confuse you and Visual Studio is more directed towards Win32 development then pure c/c++. As for books. I am using my self Teach your self C in 24 hours. Which is good but a bit dry. I mean its all info and examples and no fillers or something like that. Some people may prefer books like this. I manage with it. Its starts very easy and builds up slowly. However if money is a problem you can find a lot of good free C/c++ books on the net. Just google for it. (hint: mindview). -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Andrew Fling Sent: dinsdag 29 juli 2003 14:49 To: dev...@li... Subject: [Dev-C++] newbie I'm looking to teach myself C. I have basic to intermediate experience in HTML, PHP, CSS, ActionScript and JavaScript. Is Dev-C++ the right tool for me to start with? Also, can anyone recommend a good beginner's book on C. Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: Luigi S. <gi...@li...> - 2003-07-30 05:44:36
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> Andrew Fling wrote: > > I'm looking to teach myself C. I have basic to intermediate experience in > HTML, PHP, CSS, ActionScript and JavaScript. Is Dev-C++ the right tool for > me to start with? Also, can anyone recommend a good beginner's book on C. > Thanks > The following address was given sometime ago on this list: www.observatorio.unal.edu.co/virtual/books once there, look for "The C Programming Language by K&R". Remarks: - I understand that you like HTML, but please try to avoid it in your email :-) - I don't know if the books are available on a legal basis - I don't know if the book of K&R is the famous (C-bible) 2nd edition Regards -- >> gisan >> |
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From: Michael D. S. <for...@hi...> - 2003-07-30 06:58:53
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Library is the first place to look. No, they don't really let you keep it long enough to learn a programming language (unless you're awful fast) but if you see one you like, you can always buy it later and knowing the ones you don't like is a help as well. Sometimes they sell used books for as little as a quarter. I've built my personal library up quite a bit that way. Just this week I bought four for a buck and half ( one thousand page $60 to $80 books). One still had the shrink wrap on it. The guy at my library ordered and just "gave" me a brand new PERL programming book. I say, "gave," I've had it for years but he did say if he ever needs to explain where it is he knows where it is, and I would give it back if I had to, but after all this time, I don't think that's going to happen. Admittedly, it's unlikely everyone will find quite such an accommodating librarian but build a relationship with them and you WILL benefit. Call a local college/university that teaches the course you're interested in, and ask what book they use for the first beginning level class. They usually use good "long explaining" beginning level books, and if you ever do decide to take the course, any reading you've done in the book will put you up on your future classmates. Also, You're just not ready for the 1000 page complete works type book yet. You will eventually have to buy one though. You'll probably never read that one but they are useful for looking up what you need as you need it -- After you learn how. Be sure to check prices at Amazon.com, and the College bookstore. You'll probably find them $10 to $20 cheaper online. I did. Of course a teacher is best and if you plan to be good, you will eventually have to take some classes. There is just no substitute for back and forth exchange of talking to a person when you're lost and confused. This approach helped me save quite a bit of money and make A's when I did take the courses. It never hurts if you're going to do something to look good doing it:) As for is Dev-C++ right for you, my opinion (everybody has one) is if you are command line oriented, probably not. If you're Windows oriented, yes. I've heard some say it's to hard for beginners but I opened it right up and started within minutes -- of course I have considerable windows experience (I bought '95 in '95). If Windows still baffles you sometimes, you may have some trouble. About that I really couldn't say, but I fear you might. In any case, good luck:) ms At 07:48 AM 7/29/03, you wrote: >I'm looking to teach myself C. I have basic to intermediate experience in >HTML, PHP, CSS, ActionScript and JavaScript. Is Dev-C++ the right tool >for me to start with? Also, can anyone recommend a good beginner's book on C. >Thanks > > > > >---------- >The new <http://g.msn.com/8HMIENUS/2737??PS=>MSN 8: smart spam protection >and 2 months FREE* ------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download >today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing >list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: >http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: TJC <web...@tj...> - 2003-07-30 12:15:49
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Hi, An author of a few commerically printed books called 'Bruce Eckel' posts complete online forms of his books (legally) for free download/use. Although the books are focused on C++, a few are mostly just teaching differences between C and C++. His website for the books is http://mindview.net/Books/books.html. All his books are available on Amazon in print. Hope this helps TJC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D. Smith" <for...@hi...> To: <dev...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] newbie > > Library is the first place to look. No, they don't really let you keep it > long enough to learn a programming language (unless you're awful fast) but > if you see one you like, you can always buy it later and knowing the ones > you don't like is a help as well. Sometimes they sell used books for as > little as a quarter. I've built my personal library up quite a bit that > way. Just this week I bought four for a buck and half ( one thousand page > $60 to $80 books). One still had the shrink wrap on it. > > The guy at my library ordered and just "gave" me a brand new PERL > programming book. I say, "gave," I've had it for years but he did say if he > ever needs to explain where it is he knows where it is, and I would give it > back if I had to, but after all this time, I don't think that's going to > happen. Admittedly, it's unlikely everyone will find quite such an > accommodating librarian but build a relationship with them and you WILL > benefit. > > Call a local college/university that teaches the course you're interested > in, and ask what book they use for the first beginning level class. They > usually use good "long explaining" beginning level books, and if you ever > do decide to take the course, any reading you've done in the book will put > you up on your future classmates. Also, You're just not ready for the 1000 > page complete works type book yet. You will eventually have to buy one > though. You'll probably never read that one but they are useful for looking > up what you need as you need it -- After you learn how. > > Be sure to check prices at Amazon.com, and the College bookstore. You'll > probably find them $10 to $20 cheaper online. I did. > > Of course a teacher is best and if you plan to be good, you will eventually > have to take some classes. There is just no substitute for back and forth > exchange of talking to a person when you're lost and confused. > > This approach helped me save quite a bit of money and make A's when I did > take the courses. It never hurts if you're going to do something to look > good doing it:) > > As for is Dev-C++ right for you, my opinion (everybody has one) is if you > are command line oriented, probably not. If you're Windows oriented, yes. > I've heard some say it's to hard for beginners but I opened it right up and > started within minutes -- of course I have considerable windows experience > (I bought '95 in '95). If Windows still baffles you sometimes, you may have > some trouble. About that I really couldn't say, but I fear you might. > > In any case, good luck:) > > ms > > > > > > At 07:48 AM 7/29/03, you wrote: > > >I'm looking to teach myself C. I have basic to intermediate experience in > >HTML, PHP, CSS, ActionScript and JavaScript. Is Dev-C++ the right tool > >for me to start with? Also, can anyone recommend a good beginner's book on C. > >Thanks > > > > > > > > > >---------- > >The new <http://g.msn.com/8HMIENUS/2737??PS=>MSN 8: smart spam protection > >and 2 months FREE* ------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download > >today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing > >list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: > >http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > > |