Thread: [Dev-C++] One more time: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!

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-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of Hongli Lai 
Subject: [Dev-C++] One more time: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE!

http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm

That's it. I'm now going to put tons of JavaScript alert dialogs in the
subscribe page just to get people's attention.

On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 08:52, Hongli Lai wrote:
> http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm
> 
> That's it. I'm now going to put tons of JavaScript alert dialogs in the
> subscribe page just to get people's attention.
> 

You know, I think windows users are stupid. (no offense to the windows
users who aren't stupid).  I'm on a lot of mailing lists, but most are
for unix-like things, and this is the only list for a windows piece of
software. This is the only one that seems to get the "please unsubscribe
me" messages. The only thing I see here is the windows vs.
free-operating-system users. Hell, there's even a link on the bottom of
the message for the list management page....

That's my $0.02.

Vance

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 Vance Lankhaar                        va...@pc...
 PCSS Yearbook                      yea...@pc...
 PCSS Computers                    sys...@pc...
 http://www.crestonbc.com/pcss/   http://www.pcsscreston.ca
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While I'd imagine most of us would agree with a little eye-rolling at how
much trouble some people seem to have posting unsubscription pleas to the
user list, especially assuming that they must see us go through this with
their brethren as well, I don't think it's necessary to generalize about
Windows users over it. Windows is an OS that's abundantly available on the
market, and I think it's safe to say that most people have a Microsoft OS on
their first personal computer. It's a point of first contact for entire
generations of newbies.

Some of the people who have these problems on the list here may be people
who decided that they like computers quite a lot and so tried their hand at
becoming Computer Science majors in college. Their first class may have been
an Intro To CS using C++, and they found themselves staring down the barrel
of a student edition of MS Visual C++, which led them running as fast as
they could to a search engine to find something a touch more
newbie-friendly, so they tried out Dev-C++. When they finally decide that
this just isn't going to be what makes them feel happy & fulfilled, they
want out decisively, but as relative newbies they panic and bolt.

I doubt it's always just like this, but it does provide an alternative way
of looking at things. Perhaps if someone out there who's thinking of posting
the next *unsubscribe please* request can fill in a few of the details, it
will make a bit more sense.

Happy Thursday,
Rob Andrews
http://uselesspython.com

> -----Original Message-----
> You know, I think windows users are stupid. (no offense to the windows
> users who aren't stupid).  I'm on a lot of mailing lists, but most are
> for unix-like things, and this is the only list for a windows piece of
> software. This is the only one that seems to get the "please unsubscribe
> me" messages. The only thing I see here is the windows vs.
> free-operating-system users. Hell, there's even a link on the bottom of
> the message for the list management page....
>
>
> That's my $0.02.
>
> Vance
>

I feel I must apologize - my previous message was a bit, um,
inappropriate. Though I wasn't serious, I guess I didn't make that clear
(long days + short nights result in not-so-clear messages). I too was a
windows newbie at some point (though that seems like decades ago) and
can understand much of the rationale. I guess most of my annoyance comes
from the fact that it is so blatantly obvious that messages you send to
the list _actually go to the list_.

Anyhow, I apologize for my previous message.

Vance

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 05:02, Rob wrote:
> While I'd imagine most of us would agree with a little eye-rolling at how
> much trouble some people seem to have posting unsubscription pleas to the
> user list, especially assuming that they must see us go through this with
> their brethren as well, I don't think it's necessary to generalize about
> Windows users over it. Windows is an OS that's abundantly available on the
> market, and I think it's safe to say that most people have a Microsoft OS on
> their first personal computer. It's a point of first contact for entire
> generations of newbies.
> 
> Some of the people who have these problems on the list here may be people
> who decided that they like computers quite a lot and so tried their hand at
> becoming Computer Science majors in college. Their first class may have been
> an Intro To CS using C++, and they found themselves staring down the barrel
> of a student edition of MS Visual C++, which led them running as fast as
> they could to a search engine to find something a touch more
> newbie-friendly, so they tried out Dev-C++. When they finally decide that
> this just isn't going to be what makes them feel happy & fulfilled, they
> want out decisively, but as relative newbies they panic and bolt.
> 
> I doubt it's always just like this, but it does provide an alternative way
> of looking at things. Perhaps if someone out there who's thinking of posting
> the next *unsubscribe please* request can fill in a few of the details, it
> will make a bit more sense.
> 
> Happy Thursday,
> Rob Andrews
> http://uselesspython.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > You know, I think windows users are stupid. (no offense to the windows
> > users who aren't stupid).  I'm on a lot of mailing lists, but most are
> > for unix-like things, and this is the only list for a windows piece of
> > software. This is the only one that seems to get the "please unsubscribe
> > me" messages. The only thing I see here is the windows vs.
> > free-operating-system users. Hell, there's even a link on the bottom of
> > the message for the list management page....
> >
> >
> > That's my $0.02.
> >
> > Vance
> >
-- 
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 Vance Lankhaar                        va...@pc...
 PCSS Yearbook                      yea...@pc...
 PCSS Computers                    sys...@pc...
 http://www.crestonbc.com/pcss/   http://www.pcsscreston.ca
------------------------------------------------------------

> On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 08:52, Hongli Lai wrote:
> > http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm
> >
> > That's it. I'm now going to put tons of JavaScript alert dialogs in the
> > subscribe page just to get people's attention.
> >
>
> You know, I think windows users are stupid. (no offense to the windows
> users who aren't stupid).  I'm on a lot of mailing lists, but most are
> for unix-like things, and this is the only list for a windows piece of
> software. This is the only one that seems to get the "please unsubscribe
> me" messages. The only thing I see here is the windows vs.
> free-operating-system users. Hell, there's even a link on the bottom of
> the message for the list management page....

It's probably because Windows users are spoon-fed a lot of things; they're
event-driven, like their OS. If they don't see a menu option, they assume
it's not there. And many a times, even if they do see it, they' don't
realize... now that I think of it, it's a general problem, not just a
windows-users problem. People are like that... knocking on doors. They don't
realize the doors are already open.

My opinion on the problem is that, still, computers are not TVs.

Ioannis

* Ioannis Vranos
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 20:36, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> My opinion on the problem is that, still, computers are not TVs.
> 

I wish everybody would just accept the fact that computers are complex
things and one has to *learn* how to use it....
http://www.megatokyo.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ukyotechtalk&Number=623843&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1

> Hell, there's even a link on the bottom of the message for the list
management page....
>
>
> That's my $0.02.

Here is your change . . .

While there is a link, it does not specifically say to follow the link to
unsubscribe. Yes I know everyone should be able to figure it out, but
perhaps it would be best to include a comment with the tags added to each
message such as:

Dev-cpp-users mailing list
Dev...@li...

Subscribe or Unsubscribe
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On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 07:18, Bob Wilson wrote:
> Here is your change . . .
> 
> While there is a link, it does not specifically say to follow the link to
> unsubscribe.

It does now. Or actually, since yesterday.
"TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm"

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