dev-cpp-users

[Alexis U. <au...@te...>]

Hi Samy, I am also starting to learn C++. I found a nice book SAMS ISBN
0-672-32224-2, SAMS Teach Yourself C++. by Jesse Liberty. Even though it =
is
windows bases, he follow the ANSI compliant. Among these, SAMS has other =
lot
of book about C++.

I hope it will help

Regards

Alexis

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>    1. Re: OT: A Good C++ Book ? (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?OROSZI_Bal=3DE1zs?=3D=
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>    2. Re: fustrations in c++ (Michael C Urban)
>    3. Re: C++ (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?OROSZI_Bal=3DE1zs?=3D)
>    4. Re: fustrations in c++ (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?OROSZI_Bal=3DE1zs?=3D)
>    5. Re: "delete this" in the class member (Miguel
=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=3DEDrez_J=3DE1vega?=3D)
>    6. Abnormal program termination (Nicholas O. Rawlings)
>    7. Re: OT: A Good C++ Book ? (Miguel
=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=3DEDrez_J=3DE1vega?=3D)
>    8. Re: OT: A Good C++ Book ? (Watson Davis)
>    9. precise Web protocol knowledge for Unix/C++ (John D Allen, Leveri=
dge
Systems INC)
>   10. Re: OT: A Good C++ Book ? (Reid Thompson)
>   11. Re: OT: A Good C++ Book ? (Scott Simontis)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:02:55 +0100
> From: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?OROSZI_Bal=3DE1zs?=3D <or...@vp...>
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] OT: A Good C++ Book ?
>
> Sami Barakat wrote:
> > I have been learning C++ for about 4 months now from online free=3D20
> > resources and i feel that i would like to gain a better understanding=
 o=3D
> f=3D20
> > the language and become more advanced at it. I know 4 months isn't mu=
ch=3D
> =3D20
> > time but I have done programming in PHP before and grasped the basics=
 o=3D
> f=3D20
> > C++ pretty easily.
> > I am simply asking people from the list if they could recommend any G=
OO=3D
> D=3D20
> > C++ programming books that are not Visual Studio, because i would
like=3D20
> > to program on Linux as well as Windows without having to do major=3D2=
0
> > changes to the code, so will be using the gcc compiler all the time. =
It=3D
> =3D20
> > would also be nice if the book could explain how to program using=3D2=
0
> > sockets ( I know they are different for Windows and Linux ). I am doi=
ng=3D
> =3D20
> > this more as a hobby at the moment and maybe later on take a course
at=3D20
> > uni in it. Im not too bothered about how much the book may cost, all
i=3D20
> > am really interested in is the clarity of the book and how far i can =
go=3D
> =3D20
> > with it ( I want to go far :) ).
>
> Well, the de facto standard book is Bjarne Stroustrup: The C++=3D20
> Programming Language. It has everything about C++, but it can be a bit=3D=
20
> too techy sometimes. But I think that's not a problem for you, as you=3D=
20
> already learned C++, so I recommend that book. It describes OO=3D20
> programming in general with C++, exceptions, classes, etc. - all
aspects=3D20
> of C++ in general, and quite well. Also, it describes the STL, and all=3D=
20
> what it has plus how to use it efficiently. As it discusses C++ and STL=
=3D20
> generally (presents the C++ standard), it can be considered platform=3D=
20
> independent.
>
> As you told you learned programming, AND also C++, I think this book=3D=
20
> will be the best for you. You'll find everything inside what you might=3D=
20
> ever need.
>
> --
> Greetings,
>    Bal=3DE1zs
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:41:40 -0600 (CST)
> From: Michael C Urban <mu...@cb...>
> To: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?OROSZI_Bal=3DE1zs?=3D <or...@vp...>
> Cc: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] fustrations in c++
>
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] OROSZI Bal=3DE1zs wrote:
>
> > As I said before, I *didn't* write that mail, so I'm not trying to
> > "convert" you to anything.
>
> I didn't say you did. I was simply responding to the thing about
> prejudice. You can call it prejudice if you want. But I call it reasone=
d
> anti-christianity, and I have a lot of reasons for being against
> christianity. As a biologist who has leared from experience that humans
> and other animals are really not different from each other except in
> certain evolutonarily developed traits, I find christianity's idea that
> humans are above all the other animals to be morally repulsive. I also =
am
> not very fond of the fact that christians are always sticking their nos=
e
> in places where it doesn't belong, so that we have to fight tooth and n=
ail
> just to get anything done or accepted in science because christians who
> don't know what they are talking about, and don't understand even basic
> biological concepts, have powerful lobbying groups that try to undermin=
e
> science. (Did you know that as late as the 1960s, it was still illegal =
in
> some areas for teachers to teach Darwin's concepts of evolution in
> classrooms?)
>
> So call it whatever you want. But I don't call it prejudice when I can
> historically document my reasons for being opposed to christianity.
>
> Mike
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:53:03 +0100
> From: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?OROSZI_Bal=3DE1zs?=3D <or...@vp...>
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] C++
>
> THE OMEGA7 wrote:
> > i am actually sorry . i did not know that using
> > capitals means shouting at some one. i was ignorant of
> > this fact . i hope that u all have forgiven me .
> > actually , its not a force to be a christian but
> > actually , u do have to make peope to realize the
> > existence of the supernatural being (GOD) in
> > everything we are doing okay .=3D20
> >=3D20
> > this msg is not to hurt any one . plz .=3D20
>
> It is okay, no hurt was done, it's simply... does not belong here,=3D20
> really. This is a programming list after all :)
> So lets say all is forgiven, and end this case, okay?
>
> --
> Greetings,
>    Bal=3DE1zs
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:32:40 +0100
> From: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?OROSZI_Bal=3DE1zs?=3D <or...@vp...>
> To: Michael C Urban <mu...@cb...>
> Cc: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] fustrations in c++
>
> Hi all!
>
> Michael C Urban wrote:
> > I didn't say you did. I was simply responding to the thing about
> > prejudice. You can call it prejudice if you want. But I call it reaso=
ne=3D
> d
> > anti-christianity, and I have a lot of reasons for being against
> > christianity. As a biologist who has leared from experience that huma=
ns
> > and other animals are really not different from each other except in
> > certain evolutonarily developed traits, I find christianity's idea th=
at
> > humans are above all the other animals to be morally repulsive. I als=
o =3D
> am
> > not very fond of the fact that christians are always sticking their n=
os=3D
> e
> > in places where it doesn't belong, so that we have to fight tooth and=
 n=3D
> ail
> > just to get anything done or accepted in science because christians w=
ho
> > don't know what they are talking about, and don't understand even bas=
ic
> > biological concepts, have powerful lobbying groups that try to underm=
in=3D
> e
> > science. (Did you know that as late as the 1960s, it was still illega=
l =3D
> in
> > some areas for teachers to teach Darwin's concepts of evolution in
> > classrooms?)
> >=3D20
> > So call it whatever you want. But I don't call it prejudice when I ca=
n
> > historically document my reasons for being opposed to christianity.
>
> I don't think this is the right list to express your hatred against=3D2=
0
> christianity.
> If you think science is the privilege of anti-christians, I should
point=3D20
> out that a good majority of great scientists was, and even today are=3D=
20
> religious (at least in Europe). Even I study on a religious University,=
=3D20
> where we learn molecular and neural biology, and computer science (or
IT=3D20
> for short).
> You might take a look at the site of my University and read some of
it's=3D20
> papers to understand how Fides et Ratio can work together:
>
> http://www.itk.ppke.hu/index_e.html
>
> --
> Greetings,
>    Bal=3DE1zs
>
> John 3:15
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] "delete this" in the class member
> From: Miguel =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=3DEDrez_J=3DE1vega?=3D <mramirez@iua.=
upf.es>
> Reply-To: mra...@iu...
> To: Oleksandr Yermolenko <erm...@ma...>
> Cc: dev...@li...
> Organization: MTG
> Date: 29 Jan 2004 00:18:56 +0000
>
> On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 09:04, Oleksandr Yermolenko wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >    Little question about delete operator.
> >    Can i fall into trouble when making a call "delete this" in the
> >    class member function ?
> >
>
> What do you mean exactly by "falling into trouble"? Obviously, the firs=
t
> think one thinks at seeing that is the risk of dangling references. Any
> reference to that struct instance will be invalid. And second, valgrind
> prompts the following when executing the snippet of code you sent:
>
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D Memcheck, a.k.a. Valgrind, a memory error detector for
> x86-linux.
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D Copyright (C) 2002-2003, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Sewa=
rd.
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D Using valgrind-2.0.0, a program supervision framework =
for
> x86-linux.
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D Copyright (C) 2000-2003, and GNU GPL'd, by Julian Sewa=
rd.
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D Estimated CPU clock rate is 1610 MHz
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D For more details, rerun with: -v
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D Invalid free() / delete / delete[]
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D    at 0x40029DF1: __builtin_delete (in
> /usr/lib/valgrind/vgskin_memcheck.so)
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D    by 0x40029E1C: operator delete(void*) (in
> /usr/lib/valgrind/vgskin_memcheck.so)
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D    by 0x804846A: foo::func() (in
> /home/bowman/Sandboxes/Experiments/delete_myself)
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D    by 0x8048452: main (in
> /home/bowman/Sandboxes/Experiments/delete_myself)
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D    Address 0xBFFFF517 is on thread 1's stack
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D ERROR SUMMARY: 1 errors from 1 contexts (suppressed: 0=
 from 0)
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D malloc/free: in use at exit: 0 bytes in 0 blocks.
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D malloc/free: 1 allocs, 2 frees, 2 bytes allocated.
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D For a detailed leak analysis,  rerun with: --leak-chec=
k=3Dyes
> =3D=3D1912=3D=3D For counts of detected errors, rerun with: -v
>
> The most important part is the 'Invalid free' line. I am unsure about
> this, but I would assume that it is a synonym of "heap corruption".
>
> Seems that gcc guys care about people not shooting on their feet ;)
>
> Miguel.
>
> PS: Quite offtopic, but does anybody know if valgrind is available as a
> cygwin package?
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Reply-To: <exc...@mi...>
> From: "Nicholas O. Rawlings" <exc...@mi...>
> To: <Dev...@li...>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:18:10 -0500
> Subject: [Dev-C++] Abnormal program termination
>
> Hey there!
>
> I'm writing a string class as part of a school project.  Sometimes when=
 I
> compile the class in a test program and run it, I get an error message
> saying "NSTRING.EXE has generated errors and will be closed by Windows.
You
> will need to restart the program.  An error log is being created."  If =
I
> re-compile with the exact same source code, the problem goes away and t=
he
> test program runs perfectly.  I'm using version 4.9.8.5 on Windows 2000.
I
> have about 1300 lines of well-spaced code, but it seems unlikely to me
that
> this could be too much for mingw or for my computer to handle.  Any ide=
as?
>
> Nicholas
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] OT: A Good C++ Book ?
> From: Miguel =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=3DEDrez_J=3DE1vega?=3D <mramirez@iua.=
upf.es>
> Reply-To: mra...@iu...
> To: dev...@li...
> Organization: MTG
> Date: 29 Jan 2004 00:05:11 +0000
>
>
> > Well, the de facto standard book is Bjarne Stroustrup: The C++
> > Programming Language. It has everything about C++, but it can be a bi=
t
> > too techy sometimes. But I think that's not a problem for you, as you
> > already learned C++, so I recommend that book. It describes OO
> > programming in general with C++, exceptions, classes, etc. - all aspe=
cts
> > of C++ in general, and quite well. Also, it describes the STL, and al=
l
> > what it has plus how to use it efficiently. As it discusses C++ and S=
TL
> > generally (presents the C++ standard), it can be considered platform
> > independent.
> >
>
> You might also find interesting the two volumes by Bruce Eckel ( if you
> don't know them already ):
>
> http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
>
> the first volume could be the least interesting for you, but the second
> one contains a lot of wisdom. Also the Effective C++, More Effective C+=
+
> and Effective STL books by the "Man with a Dog" (Scott Meyers), contain
> also substantial wisdom.
>
> To round-up your STL knowledge, the doxygenated gnu's libstdc++
> documentation is, in my opinion, the most practical STL reference
> around. You can find it here:
>
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/libstdc++-html-USERS-3.3/index.ht=
ml
>
> And  when you reach the "trascending" state you might want to peek
> Andrei Alexandrescu's "Modern C++ Design". You won't believe your eyes
> when you see the code snippets.
>
> Miguel.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:25:41 -0800
> From: Watson Davis <wa...@wa...>
> Reply-To: Watson Davis <wa...@wa...>
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] OT: A Good C++ Book ?
>
> Sunday, January 25, 2004, 9:00:20 AM, you wrote:
>
> SB> Hi, I have been learning C++ for about 4 months now from online fre=
e
> SB> resources and i feel that i would like to gain a better understandi=
ng
> SB> of the language and become more advanced at it. I know 4 months isn=
't
> SB> much time but I have done programming in PHP before and grasped the
> SB> basics of C++ pretty easily. I am simply asking people from the lis=
t
if
> SB> they could recommend any GOOD C++ programming books that are not
Visual
> SB> Studio, because i would like  to program on Linux as well as Window=
s
> SB> without having to do major  changes to the code, so will be using t=
he
> SB> gcc compiler all the time. It would also be nice if the book could
> SB> explain how to program using  sockets ( I know they are different f=
or
> SB> Windows and Linux ). I am doing this more as a hobby at the moment =
and
> SB> maybe later on take a course at  uni in it. Im not too bothered abo=
ut
> SB> how much the book may cost, all i  am really interested in is the
> SB> clarity of the book and how far i can go with it ( I want to go far=
 :)
> SB> ).
>
> I'm just picking up C++ myself (after years of C, Pascal, Basic, Fortra=
n,
> Tal, PL/SQL, Cobol, Scobol, Clips, Clipper and... uh... others) and her=
e
> are the books I've read and liked so far:
>
> The C++ Programming Language by Stroustrup
>    It's kinda like the Bible of C++.
>
> Thinking in C++ by Eckel.
>    You can either buy this or you can read it online for free.
>
> Effective C++ by Meyers.
>    This one cleared up a lot of questions I didn't even know I had.  I =
was
>    making all sorts of mistakes with my objects (like not creating copy
>    constructors and things like that) until I read this book.
>
>
> HTH.
>
> Watson (the pencil neck) Davis
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Reply-To: <joh...@le...>
> From: "John D Allen, Leveridge Systems INC"
<joh...@le...>
> To: <dev...@li...>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:08:09 -0800
> Subject: [Dev-C++] precise Web protocol knowledge for Unix/C++
>
>
> We're in desperate need of contract help  for c++/ linux or Unix based
> application.
>
> 6 month need .. we have budget for a serious coder.. so the high dollar=
s
are
> there for the right person. We have a new office in San Jose.
>
> anyways.. may be of help to a group member or a friend
>
> cheers
> John
>
> John D Allen. CEO & President.
> Leveridge Systems INC.
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 18:54:36 -0500
> From: Reid Thompson <rei...@at...>
> Cc: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] OT: A Good C++ Book ?
>
> http://www.deitel.com/books
> http://www.deitel.com/books/downloads.html#cppHTP4
>
>
> Nothing specific to sockets here, but you should be able to find that
> easily enough via google.  Check these books out the next time you go
> into a bookstore.  I have the first edition C++ book and it does a good
> job of explaining C++ programming.  I've seen/looked through a
> co-workers java version of their book, and would say the same about it.
> You may also be able to view/utilize these books from one of the 'onlin=
e
> libraries' via a subscription.
>
> If you can't find the socket info you're looking for, email me back.
>
> yanked and put from the second link above:
>    Book Information
>
>      *
>
>        Table of Contents
>      *
>
>        Preface
>      *
>
>        Tour of the Book
>      *
>
>        Errata
>      *
>
>        Installing the Apache 2.0 Web Server for Microsoft Windows
>
> Downloads
>
> Examples (377K ZIP)
>
> Updated Fig. 22.5: Fig22_05.cpp
>
> Deitel=AE Deitel=AE Dive-IntoT Series Publications:
>
>      * Dive Into GNU C++ on Linux (460K, DRAFT PDF in ZIP file)
>      * Dive Into GNU C++ with CygWin on Windows (578K, DRAFT, PDF in ZI=
P
> file)
>      * Dive Into Microsoft Visual C++ .NET (1.2MB, DRAFT PDF in ZIP fil=
e)
>      * Dive Into Microsoft Visual C++ 6 (360K PDF)
>        (Formerly Getting Started With Microsoft Visual C++)
>                Example used to introduce the debugger
>      *
>
>        Dive Into Borland C++ 5.5 (123K PDF)
>        (Formerly Getting Started with Borland C++ 5.5)
>
> PowerPoint Lecture Slides
>
> reid
>
> OROSZI Bal=E1zs wrote:
> > Sami Barakat wrote:
> >
> >> I have been learning C++ for about 4 months now from online free
> >> resources and i feel that i would like to gain a better understandin=
g
> >> of the language and become more advanced at it. I know 4 months isn'=
t
> >> much time but I have done programming in PHP before and grasped the
> >> basics of C++ pretty easily.
> >> I am simply asking people from the list if they could recommend any
> >> GOOD C++ programming books that are not Visual Studio, because i wou=
ld
> >> like to program on Linux as well as Windows without having to do maj=
or
> >> changes to the code, so will be using the gcc compiler all the time.
> >> It would also be nice if the book could explain how to program using
> >> sockets ( I know they are different for Windows and Linux ). I am
> >> doing this more as a hobby at the moment and maybe later on take a
> >> course at uni in it. Im not too bothered about how much the book may
> >> cost, all i am really interested in is the clarity of the book and h=
ow
> >> far i can go with it ( I want to go far :) ).
> >
> >
> > Well, the de facto standard book is Bjarne Stroustrup: The C++
> > Programming Language. It has everything about C++, but it can be a bi=
t
> > too techy sometimes. But I think that's not a problem for you, as you
> > already learned C++, so I recommend that book. It describes OO
> > programming in general with C++, exceptions, classes, etc. - all aspe=
cts
> > of C++ in general, and quite well. Also, it describes the STL, and al=
l
> > what it has plus how to use it efficiently. As it discusses C++ and S=
TL
> > generally (presents the C++ standard), it can be considered platform
> > independent.
> >
> > As you told you learned programming, AND also C++, I think this book
> > will be the best for you. You'll find everything inside what you migh=
t
> > ever need.
> >
> > --
> > Greetings,
> >   Bal=E1zs
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
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>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:18:01 -0500
> From: Scott Simontis <age...@co...>
> To:  mra...@iu...,  dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] OT: A Good C++ Book ?
>
> I find C++ from the Ground Up to be a great reference. I know
> professionals who use it as a reference guide, and I am learning for it.
> Make sure you type in all the examples, though. Other than that, Bruce
> Eckel has very good books .Bjarne Stroustup's book is good for college
> professors and little more I have heard, but haven't read enough of it.
> Miguel Ram=EDrez J=E1vega wrote:
>
> >>Well, the de facto standard book is Bjarne Stroustrup: The C++
> >>Programming Language. It has everything about C++, but it can be a bi=
t
> >>too techy sometimes. But I think that's not a problem for you, as you
> >>already learned C++, so I recommend that book. It describes OO
> >>programming in general with C++, exceptions, classes, etc. - all aspe=
cts
> >>of C++ in general, and quite well. Also, it describes the STL, and al=
l
> >>what it has plus how to use it efficiently. As it discusses C++ and S=
TL
> >>generally (presents the C++ standard), it can be considered platform
> >>independent.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You might also find interesting the two volumes by Bruce Eckel ( if yo=
u
> >don't know them already ):
> >
> >http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
> >
> >the first volume could be the least interesting for you, but the secon=
d
> >one contains a lot of wisdom. Also the Effective C++, More Effective C=
++
> >and Effective STL books by the "Man with a Dog" (Scott Meyers), contai=
n
> >also substantial wisdom.
> >
> >To round-up your STL knowledge, the doxygenated gnu's libstdc++
> >documentation is, in my opinion, the most practical STL reference
> >around. You can find it here:
>
>http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/libstdc++-html-USERS-3.3/index.h=
tml
> >
> >And  when you reach the "trascending" state you might want to peek
> >Andrei Alexandrescu's "Modern C++ Design". You won't believe your eyes
> >when you see the code snippets.
> >
> >Miguel.
> >
> >
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