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From: Ioannis V. <iv...@em...> - 2003-03-30 00:09:21
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Our next big hope is European Union. However will it succeed? Unfortunately it seems a bit injured currently. Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys |
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From: Alvin T. <al...@th...> - 2003-03-30 11:54:29
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santiago, there is a very wise expression, i can't remember who first coined it: "it is better to remain silent and have people *think* you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -alvin p.s. - my apologies, i should have sent this to you three posts ago. p.p.s. - i'm ex-navy, saw action in operations Desert Shield, Desert Storm, Provide Comfort, and Southern Watch. i almost lost my fingers in Desert Shield. i have no problems risking my life and limbs for what is right. which is why if i were still in the navy i would have refused to fight in this war, even if it meant possibly being executed for desertion. p.p.p.s - the average nazi soldier honestly believed that they were invading poland and russia "for their protection" as well. |
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From: Alvin T. <al...@th...> - 2003-03-30 11:57:17
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santiago, there is a very wise expression, i can't remember who first coined it: "it is better to remain silent and have people *think* you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -alvin p.s. - my apologies, i should have sent this to you three posts ago. p.p.s. - i'm ex-navy, saw action in operations Desert Shield, Desert Storm, Provide Comfort, and Southern Watch. i almost lost my fingers in Desert Shield. i have no problems risking my life and limbs for what is right. which is why if i were still in the navy i would have refused to fight in this war, even if it meant possibly being executed for desertion. p.p.p.s - the average nazi soldier honestly believed that they were invading poland and russia "for their own protection" as well. |
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From: jo m. <non...@ho...> - 2003-03-30 14:28:38
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I see... USA is the best. >From: "Santiago" <sa...@ho...> >To: "Khalid El-Kary" ><kha...@ho...>,<Dev...@li...> >Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! >Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:33:06 -0500 > >Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out of nowhere, >then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT dispute the >250,000 >dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny that, neither >have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm constantly reading >sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here in the USA. The >US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" can't work as a >business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more computers >each, >all with internet access. So you could say that Americans have the best >access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I know you >might >hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are but if in your >country 2+2=5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is peaceful. It all >comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the world >where >lots of things you enjoy were invented, including computers,computer >programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human nature to hate >the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone else will >still want to be like the best. >Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county MUST until >there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land! > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail |
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From: jo m. <non...@ho...> - 2003-03-30 14:38:03
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>From: "Santiago" <sa...@ho...> >To: "Ioannis Vranos" <iv...@em...>,<Dev...@li...> >Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! >Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:34:21 -0500 > >That doesn't mean we have to take a chance in death. For whatever reasons >they exist, created or not, they must be destroy1 End of story Wow, that's terrible. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail |
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From: Bjorn T. <bjo...@ho...> - 2003-03-31 07:14:16
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>Who has the best access depend upon how you count. Statisics can always be manipulated to show what you want. The following example(follow the link at: <A href="http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11">http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11</A> to NUA's hompage) could show either that the greatest increase was in the US or that the US had a mere 3% increase.</P> <P>"The US posted the greatest increase in the number of adults online over the same period with nearly 10 million people over the age of 16 gaining Net access. As a percentage of population, however this number represents a three percent increase for the US, compared to Spain which saw a 22 percent rise in the percentage of the population online."<BR><BR>Personally, I don't think the US has an overwhelming superiority in computer&internet access. We have 4 computers at home (2 of them share a 2,5 Mbps connection) and that is not uncommon in Sweden. Let's conclude that many developed contries have good access to the internet, and computers in general.</P> <P>Best regards</P> <P>Bjorn Terelius</P> <P>ps. I'm sorry to violate our agreement to end this discussion. ;-)</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Santiago" <SA...@HO...> <DIV></DIV>>To: "Per Westermark" <PW...@IA...> <DIV></DIV>>CC: "Dev-C++ Mailing List" <DEV...@LI...> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! <DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:08:13 -0500 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Firstable, my apologies for the CAPS. I've tried to keep quiet for too long <DIV></DIV>>now and I just had enough of this anti-American senseless garbage all over. <DIV></DIV>>It's not only by the means of internet access but thanks for the site. <DIV></DIV>>Indeed, let's review your source of data facts: <DIV></DIV>>Demographics <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> a.. According to IDATE, 9.8% of the population worldwide had access to the <DIV></DIV>>Internet in 2002, up from 7.9% in 2001. IDATE estimates that the figure will <DIV></DIV>>reach 15.8% by 2006. The company also provided Internet penetration levels <DIV></DIV>>by international regions in 2002: (estimate for 2006 are shown in brackets) <DIV></DIV>> a.. North America: 66.7% (81.0%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> b.. Western Europe (including Scandinavia): 37.9% (51.4%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> c.. Eastern Europe (including Russia): 7.0% (15.4%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> d.. Asia-Pacific: 6.4% (13.3%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> e.. Latin America: 5.4% (9.1%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> f.. Africa/Middle East (including Turkey and South Africa): 1.1% (3.1%) <DIV></DIV>> (eMarketer Daily - Issue 54, March 2003) <DIV></DIV>>Taken from: http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=10 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>This is all besides the fact that Americans have been to more foreign <DIV></DIV>>countries and visited their cultures more then any citizen in the planet. <DIV></DIV>>Besides that (hate it or not) America is the most culturally diverse country <DIV></DIV>>in the world where even foreign American haters living and working here have <DIV></DIV>>the freedom the express their views without legal reprisal. Let me know if <DIV></DIV>>you need more reasons to believe that Americans are the most informed (and <DIV></DIV>>nicest) people out there. <DIV></DIV>>I know that what I say may not be in a classic American politically correct <DIV></DIV>>style. However, while I know hatred my obscure reality, I believe it's time <DIV></DIV>>for a "reality check." <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>My regards Mr. Per <DIV></DIV>>Santiago <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message ----- <DIV></DIV>>From: "Per Westermark" <PW...@IA...> <DIV></DIV>>To: "Santiago" <SA...@HO...> <DIV></DIV>>Cc: "Khalid El-Kary" <KHA...@HO...>; <DIV></DIV>><DEV...@LI...> <DIV></DIV>>Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:00 AM <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> > No, it is NOT a reality that US has 'the best access to WORLD information' <DIV></DIV>> > if you by that mean internet access, and doesn't count the number of spy <DIV></DIV>> > satellites for minding other countries bussiness. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2003/02/03/daily25.html <DIV></DIV>> > declares 67% US ADULTS penetration - which of course assumes private <DIV></DIV>> > surfing on company time. Let's go for total population instead, since <DIV></DIV>> > obviously growing up without free access to uncoloured information <DIV></DIV>> > is important... <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > If you check TOTAL population, check link: <DIV></DIV>> > http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11 <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > 69.8% Iceland <DIV></DIV>> > 67.8% Sweden <DIV></DIV>> > 63.3% Switzerland <DIV></DIV>> > 62.7% Denmark <DIV></DIV>> > 60.8% Netherlands <DIV></DIV>> > 59.6% Hong Kong <DIV></DIV>> > 59.2% Norway <DIV></DIV>> > 57.6% Austria <DIV></DIV>> > 57.3% USA <DIV></DIV>> > 55.9% Canada <DIV></DIV>> > 55.7% South Korea <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > First of all, it's considered quite rude to shout - using capital letters <DIV></DIV>> > - in news groups and mails. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > Second, to shout without checking facts is even worse. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > Might it be that you are not an adult, and hence haven't learned correct <DIV></DIV>> > social behavour? My previous post did not contain any information <DIV></DIV>> > requiring a shouted answer. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > /Per W <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Santiago wrote: <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > > Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out of <DIV></DIV>>nowhere, <DIV></DIV>> > > then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT dispute the <DIV></DIV>>250,000 <DIV></DIV>> > > dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny that, <DIV></DIV>>neither <DIV></DIV>> > > have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm constantly reading <DIV></DIV>> > > sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here in the USA. <DIV></DIV>>The <DIV></DIV>> > > US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" can't work as <DIV></DIV>>a <DIV></DIV>> > > business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more computers <DIV></DIV>>each, <DIV></DIV>> > > all with internet access. So you could say that Americans have the best <DIV></DIV>> > > access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I know you <DIV></DIV>>might <DIV></DIV>> > > hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are but if in <DIV></DIV>>your <DIV></DIV>> > > country 2+2=5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is peaceful. It <DIV></DIV>>all <DIV></DIV>> > > comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the world <DIV></DIV>>where <DIV></DIV>> > > lots of things you enjoy were invented, including computers,computer <DIV></DIV>> > > programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human nature to <DIV></DIV>>hate <DIV></DIV>> > > the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone else <DIV></DIV>>will <DIV></DIV>> > > still want to be like the best. <DIV></DIV>> > > Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county MUST <DIV></DIV>>until <DIV></DIV>> > > there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land! <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > ----- Original Message ----- <DIV></DIV>> > > From: "Khalid El-Kary" <KHA...@HO...> <DIV></DIV>> > > To: <DEV...@LI...> <DIV></DIV>> > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:34 PM <DIV></DIV>> > > Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > Hi again fellow, <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue those <DIV></DIV>>poor <DIV></DIV>> > > > >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be peace, <DIV></DIV>>stability, <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people in groups? <DIV></DIV>>why <DIV></DIV>> > > > do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people <DIV></DIV>> > > > kidding us in war ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people wouldn't have <DIV></DIV>> > > killed <DIV></DIV>> > > > you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to get in, <DIV></DIV>>but <DIV></DIV>> > > this <DIV></DIV>> > > > is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers who are <DIV></DIV>>your <DIV></DIV>> > > > brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a civilian Iraqi <DIV></DIV>> > > woman <DIV></DIV>> > > > kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't love <DIV></DIV>>saddam ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of people <DIV></DIV>>who <DIV></DIV>> > > > went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that Iraqi people <DIV></DIV>> > > love <DIV></DIV>> > > > saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them in <DIV></DIV>>streets ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >and much more lives will be saved than if saddam would stay. <DIV></DIV>> > > > >The main purpose of us going in is our defense. Throughout the <DIV></DIV>>history of <DIV></DIV>> > > > >the US and the world, all countries have REACTED to aggression. <DIV></DIV>> > > > >Unfortunatelly, September 11th, 2001 changed US and world history. <DIV></DIV>>The <DIV></DIV>> > > US <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth fellow, <DIV></DIV>>didn't <DIV></DIV>> > > > you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th September ? <DIV></DIV>>would <DIV></DIV>> > > > they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand in all <DIV></DIV>>that's <DIV></DIV>> > > > done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack wasn't a <DIV></DIV>>pointless <DIV></DIV>> > > > act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting the injust <DIV></DIV>> > > power <DIV></DIV>> > > > of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and killed <DIV></DIV>>innocent <DIV></DIV>> > > > people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is responsible <DIV></DIV>>... <DIV></DIV>> > > one <DIV></DIV>> > > > of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani hospital ? <DIV></DIV>>plz <DIV></DIV>> > > > study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's edited <DIV></DIV>>to <DIV></DIV>> > > > blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may blind us <DIV></DIV>>too <DIV></DIV>> > > by <DIV></DIV>> > > > the way, but I think deeper. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >is no longer going to REACT, it from now on will PRO-ACT. And that's <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > sacrastic again...and kill innocent people in its PRO-ACT ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >something the world is going to have to get used to. Before Sep11th, <DIV></DIV>>I <DIV></DIV>> > > > >wou;d <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > So you dismiss justice ? i'm worried that saddam is going to be an <DIV></DIV>>angel <DIV></DIV>> > > if <DIV></DIV>> > > > compared with you, return to justice plz. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >have disagree with the war. But as you know after Sep 11th we were <DIV></DIV>> > > attacked <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > Killing children doesn't have special circumstances where it's <DIV></DIV>>allowed, <DIV></DIV>> > > your <DIV></DIV>> > > > hand is soiled in their blood. my hand too, because i didn't stand to <DIV></DIV>> > > defend <DIV></DIV>> > > > them. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >with biological and weapons, which CANNOT be contained like <DIV></DIV>>communism. We <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > they didn't find these weapons so far, and they weren't found before <DIV></DIV>>the <DIV></DIV>> > > > war, right ? or you attack for the possibilty even ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >HAVE to take action against ANT THREAT before it can even get here. <DIV></DIV>>So <DIV></DIV>> > > it's <DIV></DIV>> > > > >all about life or dead. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > It's all about innocent blood shed, but our god is fair, and days will <DIV></DIV>> > > make <DIV></DIV>> > > > everyone responsible for innocent blood pay for it. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >I hope the US continues to be PROACTIVE in the face of biological or <DIV></DIV>> > > > >chemical threats and I hope some day the world understands that <DIV></DIV>>because <DIV></DIV>> > > > >from <DIV></DIV>> > > > >now on there is no turning back. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > you remind me of the matrix movie, no turning back, are they a herd of <DIV></DIV>> > > > sheeps that you kill them with "no turning back" ? they are humans we <DIV></DIV>> > > should <DIV></DIV>> > > > think 1000000 times before we kill one of them. return to justice plz. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > your speech is no longer about justice, it's about pre-protection of <DIV></DIV>> > > yours, <DIV></DIV>> > > > which means killing innocent children, and you could have avoided it <DIV></DIV>>if <DIV></DIV>> > > you <DIV></DIV>> > > > didn't become our center of hatred, by what you did along the years <DIV></DIV>>with <DIV></DIV>> > > our <DIV></DIV>> > > > brothers in palastine, now you are even going further, but there's a <DIV></DIV>>god <DIV></DIV>> > > > above, who sees you, and hears you. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > I'm really sorry for the mailing list, i promise not to post about <DIV></DIV>>this <DIV></DIV>> > > > topic again, it's for Dev-C++ isn't it ? :) <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > Regards, <DIV></DIV>> > > > Khalid AL-Kary <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>> > > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online <DIV></DIV>> > > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- <DIV></DIV>> > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: <DIV></DIV>> > > > The Definitive IT and Networking Event. 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From: Ioannis V. <iv...@em...> - 2003-03-31 07:48:15
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After concluding who has the most average of Internet access, we can = turn to how many tv channels/population evey country has. Here in my town we = have ~=3D20 that I consider serious and we are about 5 million. People get real! :) Lets stop the discussion whether americans are the master race, they are not. :) Personally if this war keeps going for = more than the next 2 months I foresee them making numoerous movies about how = they won in Iraq war (as they did for Vietnam). But this discussion should not take place... I just posted a message if anyone wants to go to http://www.peacepledge.org/ just to sign for = PEACE. Now this discussion about how americans discovered the fire and made the civilization I do not know how it came up in the list. Let's talk about code. Ioannis Vranos =20 * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Bjorn Terelius Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:14 AM To: sa...@ho... Cc: Dev...@li... Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! Who has the best access depend upon how you count. Statisics can always = be manipulated to show what you want. The following example(follow the link = at: http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=3D11 to NUA's = hompage) could show either that the greatest increase was in the US or that the = US had a mere 3% increase. "The US posted the greatest increase in the number of adults online over = the same period with nearly 10 million people over the age of 16 gaining Net access. As a percentage of population, however this number represents a three percent increase for the US, compared to Spain which saw a 22 = percent rise in the percentage of the population online." Personally, I don't think the US has an overwhelming superiority in computer&internet access. We have 4 computers at home (2 of them share a = 2,5 Mbps connection) and that is not uncommon in Sweden. Let's conclude that many developed contries have good access to the internet, and computers = in general. Best regards Bjorn Terelius ps. I'm sorry to violate our agreement to end this discussion. ;-) >From: "Santiago"=20 >To: "Per Westermark"=20 >CC: "Dev-C++ Mailing List"=20 >Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!=20 >Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:08:13 -0500=20 >=20 >Firstable, my apologies for the CAPS. I've tried to keep quiet for too = long >now and I just had enough of this anti-American senseless garbage all = over. >It's not only by the means of internet access but thanks for the site.=20 >Indeed, let's review your source of data facts:=20 >Demographics=20 >=20 > a.. According to IDATE, 9.8% of the population worldwide had access to = the >Internet in 2002, up from 7.9% in 2001. IDATE estimates that the figure will=20 >reach 15.8% by 2006. The company also provided Internet penetration = levels=20 >by international regions in 2002: (estimate for 2006 are shown in = brackets) > a.. North America: 66.7% (81.0%)=20 >=20 > b.. Western Europe (including Scandinavia): 37.9% (51.4%)=20 >=20 > c.. Eastern Europe (including Russia): 7.0% (15.4%)=20 >=20 > d.. Asia-Pacific: 6.4% (13.3%)=20 >=20 > e.. Latin America: 5.4% (9.1%)=20 >=20 > f.. Africa/Middle East (including Turkey and South Africa): 1.1% = (3.1%)=20 > (eMarketer Daily - Issue 54, March 2003)=20 >Taken from: = http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=3D10=20 >=20 >This is all besides the fact that Americans have been to more foreign=20 >countries and visited their cultures more then any citizen in the = planet.=20 >Besides that (hate it or not) America is the most culturally diverse country=20 >in the world where even foreign American haters living and working here have=20 >the freedom the express their views without legal reprisal. Let me know = if=20 >you need more reasons to believe that Americans are the most informed = (and=20 >nicest) people out there.=20 >I know that what I say may not be in a classic American politically = correct >style. However, while I know hatred my obscure reality, I believe it's = time >for a "reality check."=20 >=20 >My regards Mr. Per=20 >Santiago=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Per Westermark"=20 >To: "Santiago"=20 >Cc: "Khalid El-Kary" ;=20 >=20 >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:00 AM=20 >Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!=20 >=20 >=20 > > No, it is NOT a reality that US has 'the best access to WORLD information'=20 > > if you by that mean internet access, and doesn't count the number of = spy > > satellites for minding other countries bussiness.=20 > >=20 > > = http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2003/02/03/daily25.html=20 > > declares 67% US ADULTS penetration - which of course assumes private = > > surfing on company time. Let's go for total population instead, = since=20 > > obviously growing up without free access to uncoloured information=20 > > is important...=20 > >=20 > > If you check TOTAL population, check link:=20 > > http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=3D11=20 > >=20 > > 69.8% Iceland=20 > > 67.8% Sweden=20 > > 63.3% Switzerland=20 > > 62.7% Denmark=20 > > 60.8% Netherlands=20 > > 59.6% Hong Kong=20 > > 59.2% Norway=20 > > 57.6% Austria=20 > > 57.3% USA=20 > > 55.9% Canada=20 > > 55.7% South Korea=20 > >=20 > > First of all, it's considered quite rude to shout - using capital letters=20 > > - in news groups and mails.=20 > >=20 > > Second, to shout without checking facts is even worse.=20 > >=20 > > Might it be that you are not an adult, and hence haven't learned = correct > > social behavour? My previous post did not contain any information=20 > > requiring a shouted answer.=20 > >=20 > > /Per W=20 > >=20 > > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Santiago wrote:=20 > >=20 > > > Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out of=20 >nowhere,=20 > > > then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT dispute = the=20 >250,000=20 > > > dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny that,=20 >neither=20 > > > have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm constantly reading=20 > > > sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here in the USA.=20 >The=20 > > > US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" can't = work as=20 >a=20 > > > business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more = computers >each,=20 > > > all with internet access. So you could say that Americans have the best=20 > > > access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I know = you >might=20 > > > hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are but if = in=20 >your=20 > > > country 2+2=3D5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is = peaceful. It >all=20 > > > comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the = world >where=20 > > > lots of things you enjoy were invented, including = computers,computer=20 > > > programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human nature = to=20 >hate=20 > > > the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone = else >will=20 > > > still want to be like the best.=20 > > > Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county = MUST=20 >until=20 > > > there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land! = > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > > From: "Khalid El-Kary"=20 > > > To:=20 > > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:34 PM=20 > > > Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > Hi again fellow,=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue = those=20 >poor=20 > > > > >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be peace,=20 >stability,=20 > > > >=20 > > > > so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ?=20 > > > > did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people in groups?=20 >why=20 > > > > do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people=20 > > > > kidding us in war ?=20 > > > > Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people wouldn't = have > > > killed=20 > > > > you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to get = in,=20 >but=20 > > > this=20 > > > > is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers who = are >your=20 > > > > brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a civilian Iraqi=20 > > > woman=20 > > > > kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't = love=20 >saddam ?=20 > > > > Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of = people >who=20 > > > > went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that Iraqi people=20 > > > love=20 > > > > saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them in=20 >streets ?=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >and much more lives will be saved than if saddam would stay.=20 > > > > >The main purpose of us going in is our defense. Throughout the=20 >history of=20 > > > > >the US and the world, all countries have REACTED to aggression. = > > > > >Unfortunatelly, September 11th, 2001 changed US and world = history.=20 >The=20 > > > US=20 > > > >=20 > > > > you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth = fellow,=20 >didn't=20 > > > > you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th September = ?=20 >would=20 > > > > they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ?=20 > > > > I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand in = all=20 >that's=20 > > > > done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ?=20 > > > > I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack wasn't a = >pointless=20 > > > > act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting the injust=20 > > > power=20 > > > > of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and killed = >innocent=20 > > > > people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is = responsible=20 >...=20 > > > one=20 > > > > of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani = hospital ?=20 >plz=20 > > > > study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's = edited >to=20 > > > > blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may = blind us=20 >too=20 > > > by=20 > > > > the way, but I think deeper.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >is no longer going to REACT, it from now on will PRO-ACT. And that's=20 > > > >=20 > > > > sacrastic again...and kill innocent people in its PRO-ACT ?=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >something the world is going to have to get used to. Before Sep11th,=20 >I=20 > > > > >wou;d=20 > > > >=20 > > > > So you dismiss justice ? i'm worried that saddam is going to be = an=20 >angel=20 > > > if=20 > > > > compared with you, return to justice plz.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >have disagree with the war. But as you know after Sep 11th we = were=20 > > > attacked=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Killing children doesn't have special circumstances where it's=20 >allowed,=20 > > > your=20 > > > > hand is soiled in their blood. my hand too, because i didn't = stand to=20 > > > defend=20 > > > > them.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >with biological and weapons, which CANNOT be contained like=20 >communism. We=20 > > > >=20 > > > > they didn't find these weapons so far, and they weren't found = before >the=20 > > > > war, right ? or you attack for the possibilty even ?=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >HAVE to take action against ANT THREAT before it can even get = here. >So=20 > > > it's=20 > > > > >all about life or dead.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > It's all about innocent blood shed, but our god is fair, and = days will=20 > > > make=20 > > > > everyone responsible for innocent blood pay for it.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > >I hope the US continues to be PROACTIVE in the face of = biological or=20 > > > > >chemical threats and I hope some day the world understands that = >because=20 > > > > >from=20 > > > > >now on there is no turning back.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > you remind me of the matrix movie, no turning back, are they a = herd of=20 > > > > sheeps that you kill them with "no turning back" ? they are = humans we=20 > > > should=20 > > > > think 1000000 times before we kill one of them. return to = justice plz.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > your speech is no longer about justice, it's about = pre-protection of > > > yours,=20 > > > > which means killing innocent children, and you could have = avoided it >if=20 > > > you=20 > > > > didn't become our center of hatred, by what you did along the = years=20 >with=20 > > > our=20 > > > > brothers in palastine, now you are even going further, but = there's a >god=20 > > > > above, who sees you, and hears you.=20 > > > >=20 > > > > I'm really sorry for the mailing list, i promise not to post = about=20 >this=20 > > > > topic again, it's for Dev-C++ isn't it ? :)=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Regards,=20 > > > > Khalid AL-Kary=20 > > > >=20 > > > > = _________________________________________________________________=20 > > > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online=20 > > > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by:=20 > > > > The Definitive IT and Networking Event. 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From: Santiago M. <sa...@ho...> - 2003-03-31 15:52:05
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P> <HR> </P> <P>There you go again, trying to change what was said, trying to change reality. That's your infinite loop. No one said about Americans being the master race. All was said is that the US has very good reasons for doing what is doing, that the brainless "peace" stupidity should stop now. And the people understand and get used to the fact that the US will from now on take proactive steps (based on facts) to defend iftself, like it or not, as it was shown at the UN.</P> <P>God Bless America.</P> <P>My regards</P> <P>Santiago</P> <P>PS: Last time France decided to wait, there was a German flag parade in Paris... <BR><BR></P></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN 8 with <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMEENUS/2740">e-mail virus protection service: </a> 2 months FREE*</html> |
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From: Ioannis V. <iv...@em...> - 2003-03-31 18:05:32
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First you create the problems (like Saddam), then you replace them with others. In the meantime people get killed (I wonder if you would be able = to cut the guts from another person who fights for his country, with a = knife in the batttlefield). I think US have got out of control (for accuracy it never had one, US is = a warzone itself, unbelievable crimes, children eating their parrents = etc). Ioannis Vranos =20 * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys -----Original Message----- From: Santiago Mallea [mailto:sa...@ho...]=20 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:51 PM To: iv...@em...; dev...@li... Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! There you go again, trying to change what was said, trying to change reality. That's your infinite loop. No one said about Americans being = the master race. All was said is that the US has very good reasons for doing what is doing, that the brainless "peace" stupidity should stop now. And = the people understand and get used to the fact that the US will from now on = take proactive steps (based on facts) to defend iftself, like it or not, as = it was shown at the UN. God Bless America. My regards Santiago PS: Last time France decided to wait, there was a German flag parade in Paris...=20 MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*=20 |
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From: Louis G. <lg...@ya...> - 2003-03-31 19:45:15
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Come on guys, lets quit this. This is the 16th "Forgive me Again" thread. Take it to another website. There are hundreds of sites out there for this topic. --- Ioannis Vranos <iv...@em...> wrote: > First you create the problems (like Saddam), then you replace them with > others. In the meantime people get killed (I wonder if you would be able > to > cut the guts from another person who fights for his country, with a > knife in > the batttlefield). > > > I think US have got out of control (for accuracy it never had one, US is > a > warzone itself, unbelievable crimes, children eating their parrents > etc). > > > > > Ioannis Vranos > > * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com > * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Santiago Mallea [mailto:sa...@ho...] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:51 PM > To: iv...@em...; dev...@li... > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! > > > > > > There you go again, trying to change what was said, trying to change > reality. That's your infinite loop. No one said about Americans being > the > master race. All was said is that the US has very good reasons for doing > what is doing, that the brainless "peace" stupidity should stop now. And > the > people understand and get used to the fact that the US will from now on > take > proactive steps (based on facts) to defend iftself, like it or not, as > it > was shown at the UN. > > > God Bless America. > My regards > Santiago > PS: Last time France decided to wait, there was a German flag parade in > Paris... > > > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: > Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! > No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server > http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com |
