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Re: [Dev-C++] crt0.o

[Yeoh H. <ye...@ye...>]

MessageHi Juliano,

I compiled and linked your program without any problems.

I looked for the file crt0.o and yes there is no such file in any of the =
Dev-C++ directories. The ones that I found were: crt1.0, crt2.0, crtmt.o =
and crtst.o.

I've also examined my Makefile.win and the paths to the libs are =
correct. In the Makefile.win, I see that g++.exe is invoked twice, once =
to compile the cpp file into .o file and then a second time to pass info =
to the linker ld.exe to link the .o files with the standard libs to =
produce an exe file.

I'm using Dev-C++ 4.9.2.0 beta.  Which version are you using? Perhaps =
you can list your Makefile.win.

Have you installed any other versions of gcc compilers on your system? =
You might also want to check your system path to see which ld.exe is =
executed. Your ld.exe is looking for a crt0.o. Do a search of your =
harddisk for crt0.o. See if you can find it. Also search for ld.exe. Any =
chances of multiple copies? This is a perplexing problem.


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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Juliano P=E1vel Brasil Cust=F3dio=20


      I've juste installed Dev-C++ in my computer (Win2K) and I tried to =
compile the simple program bellow, but I've got the error message =
"C:\DevC\Bin\ld.exe: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory". The =
Dev-C++ is installed in a different directory because I was trying to =
fix this problem, but I was not succesfull in doing it.
  =20

RE: [Dev-C++] crt0.o

[<jp...@bo...>]

    Maybe... what kind of problem? Do you have a guess?
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    Juliano
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o meu esp=EDrito ora de fato." I Cor=EDntios 14:14
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-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Bob
Wilson
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:59 PM
To: Dev-C++ User Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] crt0.o


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Juliano,
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I've juste installed Dev-C++ in my computer (Win2K) and I tried to
compile the simple program bellow, but I've got the error message
"C:\DevC\Bin\ld.exe: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory". The
Dev-C++ is installed in a different directory because I was trying to
fix this problem, but I was not succesfull in doing it.

You must have an installation problem. I just took your code and it
compiled just fine on Dev-C++.=20
=20
Regards,
=20
Bob Wilson
=20

[Dev-C++] List of Freeware or Open Source C++ Class Libraries that Work with Dev-C++

[Yeoh H. <ye...@ye...>]

Hi everyone,

First, my apologies for off-topic posts on Dev-C++ vs MSVC++.

To get back on track, I have an idea to compile a listing of freeware or
Open Source C++ class libraries or tools that work with Dev-C++.

What we need is help from Dev-C++ users who are aware of such libs or tools
to post URLs for such resources. This way, I believe more beginners will
want to start or continue to use Dev-C++.

I believe the Dev-C++ website has a packages section so I think we can help
to update it. What say you, Dev-C++ webmaster?

I know most of us are busy with work and other stuff in life so this is
completely on a voluntary basis only.

As a start, this is an update on SQLite, a free embedded database in C and
callable from C++.
<extract from  poster: D. Richard Hipp >
SQLite version 2.4.10 is now available on the website:
http://www.hwaci.com/sw/sqlite/
<end extract>

There was a posting recently about using Dev-C++ with MySQL.
<extract from poster: co...@in... >
You must add libmysql.a to your project. You can find it at:
http://www.johnydog.cz/projects.php
<end extract>


Warmest regards and best wishes,
Yeoh
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Re: [Dev-C++] crt0.o

[Bob W. <bo...@ph...>]

MessageJuliano,

  I've juste installed Dev-C++ in my computer (Win2K) and I tried to =
compile the simple program bellow, but I've got the error message =
"C:\DevC\Bin\ld.exe: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory". The =
Dev-C++ is installed in a different directory because I was trying to =
fix this problem, but I was not succesfull in doing it.
You must have an installation problem. I just took your code and it =
compiled just fine on Dev-C++.=20

Regards,

Bob Wilson

Re: [Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++

[Yeoh H. <ye...@ye...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: Ioannis Vranos <no...@ho...>
To: Dev-C++ <dev...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev...@li...
> > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf
> > Of Yeoh HS
> > Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:17 AM
> > To: dev...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++
> >
> > You're right. The subject line above reveals my thoughts. :-)
> > If you're not into Windows development, you don't really need MSVC++.
>
> MSVC++ is not needed in any scenario. :P Borland C++ Builder is better.
>
>
True. In another mailing list, they say Delphi 6 is much better. ;-)

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[Dev-C++] Overloading & reliability

[rchavez <rc...@so...>]

Hi,

The thread on 'Begginer's question, Function overloading' made me wonder about
the following:

Following Brian's example (I'm not criticizing his code), reproduced partially
below, it's clear how overloading works.  But it seems to me it could be 
a very dangerous feature of the C++ language.  If you meant to call 
function with 2 parameters 1.1 and 2.2 but wrote a comma instead you wouldn't
get a error message, you would get a totally different function.

I would imagine the 2 functions would be similar or else they would have 
different names right?  So it might be very difficult to detect that the 
wrong function has been called in a large program.

When a support programmer changes the 2,2 to 2,3 really bad things might happen.

Overloading seems very risky in critical applications with rare corner cases.
It's the opposite of the graceful failure I would want in an airplane control
system for example.  After all, you never test every possibility.

Comments?

Rob.

--------------------------------------------------------------
From: Brian Pribis <br...@su...>

Notice that both these functions are called 'function'.  You must give
them the SAME name but different parameters.  The compiler will know
which function to call depending on the parameters.  If I call:

function(32,3.0);

the compiler will use the first function.  However, if I call:

function(32.1,33.4.92.923);

the compiler will automatically call the second function.  Isn't it
wonderfull?!

RE: [Dev-C++] crt0.o

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

I had forgotten something:
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Juliano
P=A6=C1vel Brasil Cust=A6=D2dio
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:52 PM
To: dev...@li...
Subject: [Dev-C++] crt0.o



    I've juste installed Dev-C++ in my computer (Win2K) and I tried to
compile the simple program bellow, but I've got the error message
"C:\DevC\Bin\ld.exe: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory". The
Dev-C++ is installed in a different directory because I was trying to
fix this problem, but I was not succesfull in doing it.
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#include<stdio.h>
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char primo(long int);
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void main(void){=20
=20

int main(void) {



   long int i;
  =20
   printf("Entre com um n=A8=B2mero: ");
   scanf("%d",&i);

=3D> scanf("%ld", &i);

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   printf("%c",primo(i));
   getchar(); =20

return 0; /* not necessary in C99 */

    =20
}
=20
char primo(long int x){=20
     int i;
    =20
     for(i=3D2;i<x;i++)
       if(x%i=3D=3D0)
         break;
     if(i=3D=3D(x-1))
       return('P');
     else
      return('N');   =20
}=20

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The code should compile ok provided the changes above.
=20
=20
Ioannis

* Ioannis Vranos
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net
<http://www.noicys.cjb.net/>=20
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys
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RE: [Dev-C++] crt0.o

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

-----Original Message-----
From: dev...@li...
[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Juliano
P=A6=C1vel Brasil Cust=A6=D2dio
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:52 PM
To: dev...@li...
Subject: [Dev-C++] crt0.o



    I've juste installed Dev-C++ in my computer (Win2K) and I tried to
compile the simple program bellow, but I've got the error message
"C:\DevC\Bin\ld.exe: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory". The
Dev-C++ is installed in a different directory because I was trying to
fix this problem, but I was not succesfull in doing it.
=20
#include<stdio.h>
=20
char primo(long int);
=20
void main(void){=20
=20

int main(void) {

=20
   long int i;
  =20
   printf("Entre com um n=A8=B2mero: ");
   scanf("%d",&i);
   printf("%c",primo(i));
   getchar(); =20

return 0; /* not necessary in C99 */

    =20
}
=20
char primo(long int x){=20
     int i;
    =20
     for(i=3D2;i<x;i++)
       if(x%i=3D=3D0)
         break;
     if(i=3D=3D(x-1))
       return('P');
     else
      return('N');   =20
}=20

=20
The code should compile ok provided the changes above.
=20
=20
Ioannis

* Ioannis Vranos
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net
<http://www.noicys.cjb.net/>=20
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys
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RE: [Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li... 
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Yeoh HS
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 2:17 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++
> 
> You're right. The subject line above reveals my thoughts. :-)
> If you're not into Windows development, you don't really need MSVC++.

MSVC++ is not needed in any scenario. :P Borland C++ Builder is better.



Ioannis

* Ioannis Vranos
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

Re: [Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++

[Yeoh H. <ye...@ye...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: Hongli Lai <h....@ch...>


> On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 09:31, Yeoh HS wrote:
> > For Dev-C++ to be useful, one needs to download other C or C++ library
> > packages.
> > Examples are:
> > 1. For GUI development, the best I've seen so far is wxWindows;
> > 2. For client-server database applications, one can use MySQL or
Interbase
> > or Firebird and related interface libs & headers.
> > 3. For embedded database applications, you can use SQLite.
> > 4. For graphics, OpenGL.
> > This is well and good but like most things, it is easier said than done.
> > Trying to get all the various packages to work together with Dev-C++  is
not
> > an easy task. However, I noted that over the past several years, more
C++
> > libraries are supporting MingW.
>
> I've created packages for WxWindows, FLTK and SDL, and they will be
> simultanously released with Dev-C++ beta 3.
> So installing WxWindows won't be a problem anymore. :-)
>
>
Great! I look forward to it. Thanks.

> And I think you really should not compare M$VC++, an expensive
> commercial Microsoft Windows-oriented development tool, with Dev-C++,
> written by some volunteers.
> I've never used MSVC++ so I don't even know what it offers.
>
You're right. The subject line above reveals my thoughts. :-)
If you're not into Windows development, you don't really need MSVC++.

Regards,
Yeoh
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Re: [Dev-C++] MFC Components

[Hongli L. <h....@ch...>]

On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 19:31, Unknown wrote:
> 
> I am just beginning to learn the basics of c++, and have come across
> several mfc programs, however, all of them seem to include stdafx.h,
> which then includes - <afxwin.h> <afxext.h> <afxdisp.h <afxdtctl.h> and
> <afxcmn.h>
> I have stdafx.h, but where can I find the above mentioned files ? I am
> sorry if the answer is simple, but I have looked around only to find
> references, but no explanation. They don't seem to listed on any of the
> standard inclusion files in dev-c++ either. Thanks for the help.
> 
> - Dave
> 

MFC is a proprietary Microsoft library. You can't use it in Dev-C++.

Re: [Dev-C++] MFC Components

[Daniel G. <sp...@ho...>]

Hmmm...not sure - VC++ has them (naturally). Hey, does anyone on the list 
know if VC++ headers would work in DEV? I suspect that if they did they 
might already be on the website...


>From: "Unknown" <glu...@bi...>
>To: <dev...@li...>
>Subject: [Dev-C++] MFC Components
>Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 01:31:34 +0800
>
>
>I am just beginning to learn the basics of c++, and have come across
>several mfc programs, however, all of them seem to include stdafx.h,
>which then includes - <afxwin.h> <afxext.h> <afxdisp.h <afxdtctl.h> and
><afxcmn.h>
>I have stdafx.h, but where can I find the above mentioned files ? I am
>sorry if the answer is simple, but I have looked around only to find
>references, but no explanation. They don't seem to listed on any of the
>standard inclusion files in dev-c++ either. Thanks for the help.
>
>- Dave
>
>
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[Dev-C++] crt0.o

[<jp...@br...>]

    I've juste installed Dev-C++ in my computer (Win2K) and I tried to
compile the simple program bellow, but I've got the error message
"C:\DevC\Bin\ld.exe: cannot open crt0.o: No such file or directory". The
Dev-C++ is installed in a different directory because I was trying to
fix this problem, but I was not succesfull in doing it.
=20
#include<stdio.h>
=20
char primo(long int);
=20
void main(void){
   long int i;
  =20
   printf("Entre com um n=FAmero: ");
   scanf("%d",&i);
   printf("%c",primo(i));
   getchar();    =20
}
=20
char primo(long int x){=20
     int i;
    =20
     for(i=3D2;i<x;i++)
       if(x%i=3D=3D0)
         break;
     if(i=3D=3D(x-1))
       return('P');
     else
      return('N');   =20
}

=20

=20
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"Porque, se eu orar em l=EDnguas,
o meu esp=EDrito ora de fato." I Cor=EDntios 14:14
--------------------------------------

=20

R: R: [Dev-C++] Screw Dev Im on Visual C++!!!! WOOHOO! too all you losers out there that use Dev

[Marcantonio M. <mar...@ma...>]

David,

>If you want out you are free to do so just don't
>annoy the rest of us who came here for a purpose.

I am really afraid you were annoyed by my post. (If you feel annoyed by =
posts on this list, you are free to leave, too).

I am used to criticize to help make things better. I am really able to =
unsubscribe from a list and if I thought this list was unuseful, I would =
be already out.

Rather than inviting me (and others) to leave, please focus on the =
message I silently conveyed: "there are people very interested in the =
way Dev-C++ works, but the relative lack of support makes things hard =
for the beginners of us".

If I downloaded Dev-C++ 1.0, or 0.9, I would expect it to be a product =
in its initial life. The current version being 5beta, I was frankly =
expecting to find more documentation, more examples, more information on =
its website.

But you should not confuse my message with my opinion regarding Dev-C++. =
It is great. When I saw there was a frontend for mingw written in =
delphi, open source (and open-minded), I just thought, 'thrilling, =
great!'.

>Is this what you expect???
>User:
>"Hey Microsoft, here is my problem ......
>could you write the code to solve this problem?"
>Tech support:
>"Sure here it is ....."

I am not used to this kind of thing. I am used to find WHOLE LOADS of =
information about anything on the web, *including* information about =
microsoft products. With DevC++, my search experience was really =
different and I thought it could be interesting to the community to know =
why it was like that.

>If this is what you expect you are in the wrong field

I usually expect a positive response to critics, but with you, I sure =
seem to be in the wrong field. That is why I sincerely apologize for =
writing something so unbearable for you.

Thank you again,
Marcantonio

[Dev-C++] MFC Components

[Unknown <glu...@bi...>]

I am just beginning to learn the basics of c++, and have come across
several mfc programs, however, all of them seem to include stdafx.h,
which then includes - <afxwin.h> <afxext.h> <afxdisp.h <afxdtctl.h> and
<afxcmn.h>
I have stdafx.h, but where can I find the above mentioned files ? I am
sorry if the answer is simple, but I have looked around only to find
references, but no explanation. They don't seem to listed on any of the
standard inclusion files in dev-c++ either. Thanks for the help.

- Dave

Re: [Dev-C++] create ComboBox

[Daniel G. <sp...@ho...>]

May I see your source code? I have been working on dialog boxes, using combo 
boxes recently in VC++ 6.0 so perhaps I can help?

Daniel


>From: Christian Wallukat <Chr...@vo...>
>To: "CPP-Maillinglist (E-Mail)" <dev...@li...>
>Subject: [Dev-C++] create ComboBox
>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:52:14 +0200
>
>Hi List,
>
>
>some questions:
>
>I have created a combobox (with CreateWindow()).
>
>The combo is shown on the window.
>
>If I try to put Strings into the combobox (with SendMessage) it does not
>work, I only can put it in the Edit Field of the CBox...
>
>
>Have someone any idea ???
>
>
>
>Rind regards
>
>Christian
>
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RE: [Dev-C++] unsuscribe

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev...@li... 
> [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Hongli Lai
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: luis de jesus
> Cc: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] unsuscribe
> 
> 
> This is were you go to unsubscribe:
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users
> 
> 
> This is becoming an FAQ....


It is a BIG problem since years! There was a time that i was thinking
placing unsubscribe instructions as a signature, but i was bored to
choose signatures all the time.




Ioannis

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* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

[Dev-C++] create ComboBox

[Christian W. <Chr...@vo...>]

Hi List,


some questions:

I have created a combobox (with CreateWindow()).

The combo is shown on the window.

If I try to put Strings into the combobox (with SendMessage) it does not
work, I only can put it in the Edit Field of the CBox...


Have someone any idea ???



Rind regards

Christian

Re: R: [Dev-C++] Screw Dev Im on Visual C++!!!! WOOHOO! too all you losers out there that use Dev

[David M. <ci...@ya...>]

I have one question

Don't you people have better things to do with your
lives?????????

If you want out you are free to do so just don't
annoy the rest of us who came here for a purpose.
And for those of you who say that questions are
not answered I must say you do Ironis(sorry for
spelling your name wrong) and the other people on
this list a very big disservice.

I have Visual C++ 6.0 Professional.
I have been on a visual C++ mailing list and to say
the least when these guys know how to fix a problem
it is usually a microsoft-only (non-portable) solution.

Is this what you expect???
User:
"Hey Microsoft, here is my problem ......
could you write the code to solve this problem?"
Tech support:
"Sure here it is ....."

If this is what you expect you are in the wrong field

=====
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Re: [Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++

[Hongli L. <h....@ch...>]

On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 09:31, Yeoh HS wrote:
> For Dev-C++ to be useful, one needs to download other C or C++ library
> packages.
> Examples are:
> 1. For GUI development, the best I've seen so far is wxWindows;
> 2. For client-server database applications, one can use MySQL or Interbase
> or Firebird and related interface libs & headers.
> 3. For embedded database applications, you can use SQLite.
> 4. For graphics, OpenGL.
> This is well and good but like most things, it is easier said than done.
> Trying to get all the various packages to work together with Dev-C++  is not
> an easy task. However, I noted that over the past several years, more C++
> libraries are supporting MingW.

I've created packages for WxWindows, FLTK and SDL, and they will be
simultanously released with Dev-C++ beta 3.
So installing WxWindows won't be a problem anymore. :-)


And I think you really should not compare M$VC++, an expensive
commercial Microsoft Windows-oriented development tool, with Dev-C++,
written by some volunteers.
I've never used MSVC++ so I don't even know what it offers.

Re: [Dev-C++] more on GTK library problem

[Hongli L. <h....@ch...>]

On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 05:59, J Miller wrote:
> Gentlemen (I've seen no female names),
> 
> I've created a DOS .bat file with this command in it:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> f:\Dev-C++\Bin\gcc.exe rsrc.o -o Scratch.exe
> main.cpp -LF:\Dev-C++\Lib -lgtk -s -mwindows -IF:\Dev-C++\include -IF:
> \Dev-C++\Include\gtk -IF:\Dev-C++\Include\glib-2.0 -IF:\Dev-C++\Includ
> e\glib-2.0\glib
> 
> </snip>
> 
> it seems to compile my Scratch GTK project (it produces a
> Scratch.exe).
> 
> When I try to run it I get the following error:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> The dynamic link library libglib-1.3-12.dll could not be found in the
> specified path................
> 
> </snip>
> 
> I don't have this DLL on my system.  I ran a quick google search which
> came up blank.
> 
> I've had similar errors for the libgtk-0.dll and libgdk-0.dll. I found
> those
> and shifted them to the correct place.
> 
> Any ideas??????????
> 
> from DownUnder
> John M'

I've created a GTK+ package for Dev-C++.
http://devcpp.everfloyd.com/

Re: [Dev-C++] unsuscribe

[Hongli L. <h....@ch...>]

This is were you go to unsubscribe:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users


This is becoming an FAQ....

[Dev-C++] No Comparison: Dev C++ & Visual C++

[Yeoh H. <ye...@ye...>]

Hi,

I've been using both Dev-C++ and VC++6.0 for quite a while. In terms of
standards compliance, most people would agree that Dev-C++ (latest version)
is better than VC++6.0.

I admire Dev-C++, the IDE and the MingW compiler system. They are superb
software. I use Dev-C++ for writing Windows software, mostly small shareware
programs or software for personal use.

As a contract programmer for clients running Windows, I find that using VC++
makes life much easier for me and them. It is a very complete tool set for
Windows GUI software development in all aspects, that is graphics, database
programming, ActiveX and all that Microsoft technologies. In addition many
third-party libraries are also available for VC++.

Dev-C++ is a front-end GUI for the MingW compiler system. IMHO it lacks one
major tool, the resource editor. There's a freeware resource editor from the
LCC-Win32 package but one cannot compare it with VC++'s resource editor. I
know one can do without a resource editor but trying to hand-code many
dialog boxes is ridiculous. :-)

For Dev-C++ to be useful, one needs to download other C or C++ library
packages.
Examples are:
1. For GUI development, the best I've seen so far is wxWindows;
2. For client-server database applications, one can use MySQL or Interbase
or Firebird and related interface libs & headers.
3. For embedded database applications, you can use SQLite.
4. For graphics, OpenGL.
This is well and good but like most things, it is easier said than done.
Trying to get all the various packages to work together with Dev-C++  is not
an easy task. However, I noted that over the past several years, more C++
libraries are supporting MingW.

My question to you guys is that how many of you actually use Dev-C++ to
produce commercial Windows software?
What are the problems you face?
How many Windows software development shops use Dev-C++ compared to VC++?

How many of you use Dev-C++ mainly as a C++ learning tool?

Sorry for this long post. In closing I would say that both VC++ and Dev-C++
are useful. It depends on what your aims are. If I were a college student
and were asked to buy VC++ student edition, I might go ahead and do it. It's
not a matter of cost. I see it as an investment only if I were to market
myself as a Windows programmer. Why not use both or more? Dev-C++, MingW,
BCB, VC++ for Windows C++ development work, and GCC or similar for Unix
based development.

Regards,
Yeoh
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Watson <bo...@af...>
To: <dev...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: [Dev-C++] Dev C++/Visual C++ comparison


> I'm currently at university doing a comp. sci. course, and they've
> recommended we get out hands on the student version of Visual C++. This
> of course costs money that I'd rather not spend.
>
> Up until now, I've been working in Dev C++ for all the assignments
> they've set, however I was wondering if there is any major functional
> differences between the two (I doubt we'll do anything requiring a GUI
> this semester, and next semester we use CodeWarrior on Linux), apart
> from the price difference, what benefits does Dev have over Visual? I'm
> gonna need to pass this by the lecturers and I'd like to have *some*
> idea of what I'm talking about :)
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
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Re: R: [Dev-C++] Screw Dev Im on Visual C++!!!! WOOHOO! too all you losers out there that use Dev

[Daniel G. <sp...@ho...>]

I would disagree on who should use DEV - I see it as an excellent start for 
beginners BECAUSE it's free. I know there are probs with libraries having 
odd extensions but for somebody just getting into programming and who 
doesn;t know if they want to invest heavily, it's great.

>From: "Marcantonio Magnarapa" <mar...@ma...>
>To: <dev...@li...>
>Subject: R: [Dev-C++] Screw Dev Im on Visual C++!!!! WOOHOO! too all you 
>losers out there that use Dev
>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:09:38 +0200
>
>
>I do not appreciate the way he has chosen to show his discomfort, but I 
>really agree with his disappointment. The program (althought it is just a 
>mere front-end) is ok, the community is support is (to say the least) weak. 
>Questions aren't usually answered; programming questions are blatantly 
>ignored. Sure, nobody paid for it and no support is guaranteed. But that's 
>just what users are getting: no support at all.
>
>Maybe that is what Dev-C++ is all about: a great front-end for a great 
>compiler for great programmers. Novices should just look elsewhere.
>
>(One could argue that today's novices are, in part, tomorrow's good 
>programmers; but this is an issue nobody seems to care about here)
>
>Marcantonio
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: dev...@li...
>[mailto:dev...@li...]Per conto di Daniel
>Glenfield
>Inviato: giovedì 2 maggio 2002 21.07
>A: Roc...@ao...; dev...@li...
>Oggetto: Re: [Dev-C++] Screw Dev Im on Visual C++!!!! WOOHOO! too all
>you losers out there that use Dev
>
>
>
>VC++ 6.0 is years old
>VC++ won't compile templates coded properly
>VC++ cost you a lot of money
>
>You're supporting microsoft who want to see smaller developers killed off.
>
>And if you were any good at coding you'd be working to make DEV better.
>
>idiot.
>
> >From: Roc...@ao...
> >To: dev...@li...
> >Subject: [Dev-C++] Screw Dev Im on Visual C++!!!! WOOHOO! too all you
> >losers out there that use Dev
> >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 08:55:24 EDT
> >
> >:P :P :P :P :P :P :P
> >HAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> >WOOHOO!!!
> >VisualC++ is mine to have!!!!
> >For me.
> >Not You,.
> >You sucky people have to use DevC++, while I GOT VISUAL C++ 6.0 WOOHOO
> >yeeehaaa
> >BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE screw this mail list, I want out!!!!
> >Bye!!!!
> >HA HAH HA HAHAHAHAHAAHA YES!!!!!!!screw you poor losers, ill work Dev
> >anyday
> >woohoo!!!!!!
> >woohoo!!!!!!
> >woohoo!!!!!!
> >
> >P.S. Dev C++ can suck it people,
> >
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[Dev-C++] more on GTK library problem

[J M. <jm...@we...>]

Gentlemen (I've seen no female names),

I've created a DOS .bat file with this command in it:

<snip>

f:\Dev-C++\Bin\gcc.exe rsrc.o -o Scratch.exe
main.cpp -LF:\Dev-C++\Lib -lgtk -s -mwindows -IF:\Dev-C++\include -IF:
\Dev-C++\Include\gtk -IF:\Dev-C++\Include\glib-2.0 -IF:\Dev-C++\Includ
e\glib-2.0\glib

</snip>

it seems to compile my Scratch GTK project (it produces a
Scratch.exe).

When I try to run it I get the following error:

<snip>

The dynamic link library libglib-1.3-12.dll could not be found in the
specified path................

</snip>

I don't have this DLL on my system.  I ran a quick google search which
came up blank.

I've had similar errors for the libgtk-0.dll and libgdk-0.dll. I found
those
and shifted them to the correct place.

Any ideas??????????

from DownUnder
John M'