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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

-------Original Message-------=0D
 =0D
From: Per Westermark=0D
Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 6:58:51 =EC=EC=0D
To: Ioannis Vranos=0D
Cc: Dev-C++ Mailing List=0D
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API=0D
 =0D
At the same time, if ALL programs has to be rewritten, every software=0D
developer has a chance to swap to another OS instead.=0D
=0D
=0D
=3D=3D> Even if Win32 API was continued to exist in Longhorn for backward
compatibility (which personally i view as highly probable), not supportin=
g
the new and exciting stuff means that still one has to learn .NET.=0D
=0D
=3D=3D> Currently .NET provides facilities to work with legacy (Win32, MF=
C, COM,
ActiveX etc code) and probably Avalon will keep that facilities, perhaps
Win32 will not exist by its own, i do not know what exactly will be the
situation.=0D
=0D
=3D=3D> The point is that .NET supports implicitly & explicitly the theme=
 styles
 and all the new SDKs will be .NET only. Upcoming .NET 1.1 provides suppo=
rt
for Oracle databases, SQL etc. For Windows CE & Pocker PC there is the
compact .net framework and even for cellular phones, etc. The output on
these devices is adjusted to the device specifications (there are device
profiles etc).=0D
=0D
=0D
Anyway some information links: http://msdn.microsoft
com/netframework/productinfo/overview/default.asp=0D
=0D
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.asp=0D
=0D
=0D
We had enough with .NET already. This is Dev-C++ list (at least till MING=
W
supports .NET). :P=0D
=0D
=0D
Ioannis Vranos=0D
=0D
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Re: [Dev-C++] How do I pause a program?

[Tina B. <t_b...@co...>]

This is one way, although there are probably others.  Without this, my =
dos window closes before I can see it...
 =20

//  Tina Barnes
//

#include <iostream>  //  For cout and cin
#include <cstdlib>   //  For system("PAUSE")
using namespace std; =20

int main()
{
    //   your program goes here...
    system("PAUSE");
    return 0;
}

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  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:32 AM
  Subject: [Dev-C++] How do I pause a program?


  I want it to display some information until a button
  is pressed. The Bloddshed software I have has the .h
  file with some command to do, but I wanna know how it
  works without this.

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Re[2]: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Zodiaq <zo...@ac...>]

Hello Ioannis and all Dev-C++ users,

Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 6:26:37 PM, Ioannis wrote as follows:


> That would be OK with me (i am not MS fan, i would dare to state that i
> am the opposite).

Two important thing to notice:
-please, please, please don't use your way to write REs, this method
of using =>> make mails unreadable, not totally, but I have to wonder
where's your text, and where's the person you respond... please you
stansard >>
-I'm not fan of M$ either, but there are still lot of programs that
can be written (niche - like in firewalls, maybe good games) and (what
is relly important) there ale lot of people that can use your software
(heh, and pay for it if you decide to release it under shareware)

But there is also one really important thing to notice - rewriting so
many software, means work for us - programmers... but, hey - not .NET,
it suxx (these are the words of speed/size maniac!)

-- 
regards, Zodiaq

[Dev-C++] How do I pause a program?

[Giligun <too...@ya...>]

I want it to display some information until a button
is pressed. The Bloddshed software I have has the .h
file with some command to do, but I wanna know how it
works without this.

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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

-------Original Message-------=0D
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From: Per Westermark=0D
Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 6:49:11 =EC=EC=0D
To: Ioannis Vranos=0D
Cc: Dev-C++ Mailing List=0D
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API=0D
 =0D
=0D
At the same time, if ALL programs has to be rewritten, every software=0D
developer has a chance to swap to another OS instead.=0D
=0D
=0D
=3D=3D> That would be OK with me (i am not MS fan, i would dare to state =
that i
am the opposite).=0D
=0D
=0D
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Re: Re[2]: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Daniel G. <sp...@ho...>]

Hmmm that's a good point, but do the benefits of .Net outweigh the bad 
sides?

You want to write small fast Win32 apps, I think you're at the same junction 
as myself more or less, but remember this - many people, companies etc. are 
STILL using Windows 95, 3.1, DOS in some cases like garages, so there will 
be a marketplace for the apps too.

But I understand what you are saying, to someone just learning Win32 then 
hearing things like this about having to learn new technologies that make 
their just-learnt knowledge out of date it is disheartening.

I think what we need is Microsoft to simply say

"If you're a developer in language X you'll need to change to Y to be 
compatible with .NET and the future of Windows."

What I'm getting at is that there seems to be a lot of "little" information 
in my opinion and not enough plain english. Don't give me the technical 
stuff until I ask for it - HOW DOES .NET AFFECT ME TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE?

If that makes sense ;)

Daniel



>From: Zodiaq <zo...@ac...>
>Reply-To: Zodiaq <zo...@ac...>
>To: Dev...@li...
>Subject: Re[2]: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API
>Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:40:11 +0100
>
>Hello Ioannis and all Dev-C++ users,
>
>Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 4:59:15 PM, Ioannis wrote as follows:
>
>IV> That's why i informed you. :) .NET consists of a virtual machine  (like
>IV> Java) and a complete API.
>[big cut]
>
>So:
>-virtual machine
>-assembler
>-garbage collector
>-fuck!
>
>All these stuff make programs run slower and take more RAM, this make
>me SO angry... I wanted to lern Win32 API to write as fast and as small
>programs as possible, now (if I want to be up-to-date) I have to learn
>this (IMO stupid) .NET, damn it...
>
>For end-uset switching to new OS means buying more RAM and new CPU to
>run some old (but rewritten) progs at the same speed... GREAT! ;-[
>
>--
>regards, Zodiaq
>
>
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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Per W. <pw...@ia...>]

There are a lot of large companies running with administrative software
from the 1970.

While every new computer sold may try to use the latest and hottest, real
companies - and home users - doesn't trow away existing applications. And
a lot of companies aren't around anymore to delivery updates to their
software, while you have an installed base of data in their native format.

And if you got to a position where you have to replace ALL your software,
your are a free-flowing customer. You might go for ANY operating system
available. That is a major point for M$ to be careful about removing
support for existing software.

At the same time, if ALL programs has to be rewritten, every software
developer has a chance to swap to another OS instead.

/Per W

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Per Westermark
> Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 4:10:31 =EC=EC
> To: Louis Godio
> Cc: Ioannis Vranos; Dev-C++ Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API
>
> Unless M$ wants to loose all their market shares, they will think about
> the installed base of Win32 applications.
>
>
> =3D=3D> Why? If you think of it, everyone will need software upgrades. Af=
ter all
>  software companies exist to write code and sell it, right? :)
>
>
> Ioannis Vranos
>
> * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
> * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Per W. <pw...@ia...>]

Not completely true that the Java framework is only for Java.

There exists C/C++ compilers that generates the byte code, as well as
suport native compilation of the Java code to x86 assembler.

As long as a virtual machine is complete enough, just about any language
may run against the VM.

/PWM

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Zodiaq
> Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 11:12:50 =F0=EC
> To: Dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API
>
> Hello Ioannis and all Dev-C++ users,
>
> Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 3:03:42 AM, Ioannis wrote as follows:
>
> IV> "Longhorn
> IV> Next major OS version
> IV> Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.
> IV> OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.
> IV> Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed
> code.
> IV> "
>
> So, does it mean that if I want to write some progs for new windows
> platform I have to (I must) learn .NET API??? Does .NET look at least
> something similar to Win32 API or rather like MFC?? Damn, these are
> baaaaaad news for me... but Longhorn going to be released at 2004 or
> 2005?? So I have some more time... damn it!
>
>
> That's why i informed you. :) .NET consists of a virtual machine  (like
> Java) and a complete API.
>
> .NET is an independent system, Windows and .NET will *coexist* for some t=
ime
>  The source code does not get compiled to binary code but to intermediate
> bytecode which is compiled at run-time by the virtual machine (named CLR)=
=2E
>
> Because of this, all languages share the same API and code written in one
> language can work with another. For example you can inherit a Visual Basi=
c 7
> class to your C++ class, throw an exception in C++ and catch it in C# and=
 so
> on. A programming language in .NET world is just a dialect, you can use
> whichever you like (for example Oberon).
>
> .NET provides garbage collection so when you allocate memory on the free
> store you do  not have to release it.
>
> Since .NET is a virtual machine you can think that you write programs for=
 it
> and not your real architecture. That's why it has its own assembly langua=
ge,
> the assembler MS provides  is called ILASM and its disassembler is called
> ILDASM. Its assembly language has the notion of objects too!
>
> Reference: http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/books/5771.asp
>
>
> Since .NET was designed after Java it has advantages over it. Except of t=
he
> fact that it is an open framework for any language while java's framework=
 is
> only for java, it provides options on how your code gets compiled to nati=
ve
> binary code  at run-time when it is executed. Line by line, function by
> function or it gets all compiled to native binary code at the time of
> installation (but i do not know how to configure it yet).
>
> The API is high level and *complete*. For example:
>
>
> (part of a real .NET program)
>
> #include "stdafx.h"
>
> #using <mscorlib.dll>
> #include <tchar.h>
> #using <System.dll>
> #using <system.windows.forms.dll>
> #using <system.drawing.dll>
>
> using namespace System;
> using namespace System::ComponentModel;
> using namespace System::Windows::Forms;
> using namespace System::Drawing;
>
> __gc class CppForm:public Form
> {
>  Button *btn1, *btn2;
>  Label *theLabel;
>  GroupBox *gbox;
>  RadioButton *rb1, *rb2, *rb3;
>  ComboBox *combo1;
>  TextBox *text1;
>  MainMenu *menuBar;
>  MenuItem *fileMenu, *item1, *item2;
>
>
>
>
> // ...
>
>
>
>
> void Setup_Buttons()
>  {
>   btn1=3Dnew Button;
>   btn1->Text=3D"OK";
>
>   btn1->Size=3DSystem::Drawing::Size(70,25);
>   btn1->Location=3DPoint(130,225);
>   btn1->Click+=3Dnew EventHandler(this, &CppForm::Btn1_Clicked);
>   Controls->Add(btn1);
>
>   btn2=3Dnew Button;
>   btn2->Text=3D"Cancel";
>
>   btn2->Size=3DSystem::Drawing::Size(70,25);
>   btn2->Location=3DPoint(210,225);
>   Controls->Add(btn2);
>   btn2->Click+=3Dnew EventHandler(this, &CppForm::cancel_clicked);
>
>  }
>
>
> public:
>  CppForm()
>  {
>   Text=3D"Test Form";
>   FormBorderStyle=3DFormBorderStyle::Fixed3D;
>   Size=3DSystem::Drawing::Size(450,350);
>   Setup_Menu();
>   Setup_Buttons();
>   Setup_Label();
>   Setup_Group();
>   Setup_Combo();
>   Setup_Text();
>
>  }
>
> };
>
> // This is the entry point for this application
> int __stdcall WinMain()
> {
>  Application::Run(new CppForm);
>
>
>
>     return 0;
> }
>
>
>
> .NET architecture (except of the API) is standardised by ECMA, together w=
ith
> its assembly language. You can download its standard for free and see its
> assembly language at
>
> http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/ECMA-335.HTM
>
>
> An example of its assembly language:
>
> assembly Test {}
>
>
> .method static int32 AddTen(int32)
> {
>   ldarg.0
>   ldc.i4 10
>   add
>   ret
> }
>
>
> .class Test
> {
>   .method static void main()
>   {
>    .entrypoint
>     ldc.i4.1
>     ldftn int32 AddTen(int32)
>     calli int32(int32)
>     pop
>     ret
>   }
> }
>
>
>
> Since this is the case, there are open source .NETs too. For example:
>
> http://www.go-mono.com/
>
>
>
> Ioannis Vranos
>
> * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com
> * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys

Re[2]: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Zodiaq <zo...@ac...>]

Hello Ioannis and all Dev-C++ users,

Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 4:59:15 PM, Ioannis wrote as follows:

IV> That's why i informed you. :) .NET consists of a virtual machine  (like
IV> Java) and a complete API.
[big cut]

So:
-virtual machine
-assembler
-garbage collector
-fuck!

All these stuff make programs run slower and take more RAM, this make
me SO angry... I wanted to lern Win32 API to write as fast and as small
programs as possible, now (if I want to be up-to-date) I have to learn
this (IMO stupid) .NET, damn it...

For end-uset switching to new OS means buying more RAM and new CPU to
run some old (but rewritten) progs at the same speed... GREAT! ;-[

-- 
regards, Zodiaq

[Dev-C++] Calling Mingw from other editor

[<joe...@im...>]

Hello,

though I like the Dev-C++ IDE, I would prefer to work with the editor  I'm
used to (MED).
Unfortunately trying to invoke make out of my editor gives me an error:

process_easy: DuplicateHandle(In) failed (e=6)

Seems like make tries to call the preprocessor, compiler.. but can't start
another programm/process?
I can see batch files in my TEMP directory created by make.
Calling make out of the comand line works.
What goes wrong here?

Regards,

Jorg Krein
GERMANY

Re: [Dev-C++] What's the difference?

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

-------Original Message-------=0D
 =0D
From: OROSZI Bal=E1zs=0D
Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 5:34:24 =EC=EC=0D
To: dev...@li...=0D
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] What's the difference?=0D
 =0D
Ioannis Vranos wrote:=0D
> =3D=3D> ? In fact allocating/releasing space on the free store is more =
=0D
> time-expensive than using local space in the stack.=0D
=0D
It is, but using the stack is only advisable for temporary structures.=0D
=0D
=0D
=3D=3D> Well it depends. You can use the stack to callers and pass the st=
ack
entities to called functions.=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
>> =0D
> =3D=3D> Or even better i would provide it as a class with access functi=
ons.=0D
=0D
Well yes, I see now. I don't know C++, so I looked up in a book what you =
=0D
wrote, and it seems you use references. Isn't that the same as using =0D
pointers?=0D
Anyway, in C, pointers are the only way.=0D
=0D
=0D
Yes. I did not know what language was all about and i assumed C++.=0D
=0D
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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

-------Original Message-------=0D
 =0D
From: Per Westermark=0D
Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 4:10:31 =EC=EC=0D
To: Louis Godio=0D
Cc: Ioannis Vranos; Dev-C++ Mailing List=0D
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API=0D
 =0D
Unless M$ wants to loose all their market shares, they will think about=0D
the installed base of Win32 applications.=0D
=0D
=0D
=3D=3D> Why? If you think of it, everyone will need software upgrades. Af=
ter all
 software companies exist to write code and sell it, right? :)=0D
=0D
=0D
Ioannis Vranos=0D
=0D
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com=0D
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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

As far as i know no. The applications will have to be rewritten from the
beginning using the new API. But things can change, we have much time til=
l
Longhorn. However every new SDK will be .NET, for example the upcoming Yu=
kon
SQL server will provide access through .NET API.=0D
=0D
Also in Longhorn the file system will be different. It will behave as a
database (named it is named WinFS=3DWindows Future Storage). That is you =
will
query it!=0D
=0D
=2ENET provides its own DirectX etc APIs.=0D
 =0D
=0D
Ioannis Vranos=0D
=0D
* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.freeurl.com=0D
* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys =0D
=0D
-------Original Message-------=0D
 =0D
From: Louis Godio=0D
Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 3:13:31 =EC=EC=0D
To: Ioannis Vranos; Dev-C++ Mailing List=0D
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API=0D
 =0D
Will Longhorn support WIN32 API function calls ? or will we need to=0D
learn a totaly new API=0D
=0D
=0D
--- Ioannis Vranos <no...@ho...> wrote:=0D
> Also it is useful to know that with the current provided information=0D
> Longhorn will only support .NET API. That version of .NET is code-named=
=0D
> Avalon. Some quotations on that:=0D
> =0D
> =0D
> "The "Visual Studio for Yukon" release will represent a significant=0D
> milestone. Following the "Yukon" wave, the next planned platform update=
=0D
> is=0D
> the Windows release code-named "Longhorn." A tools update, "Visual=0D
> Studio=0D
> for Longhorn," will support the managed interfaces, enhanced user=0D
> interface=0D
> features, and other new capabilities of the updated platform."=0D
> =0D
> =0D
> "Longhorn=0D
> =0D
> Next major OS version=0D
> Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.=0D
> OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.=0D
> Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed=0D
> code.=0D
> "=0D
> =0D
> =0D
> =0D
> =0D
> =0D
> Ioannis Vranos=0D
> =0D
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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Ioannis V. <no...@ho...>]

-------Original Message-------=0D
 =0D
From: Zodiaq=0D
Date: =D4=F1=DF=F4=E7, 4 =CC=DC=F1=F4=E9=EF=F2 2003 11:12:50 =F0=EC=0D
To: Dev...@li...=0D
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API=0D
 =0D
Hello Ioannis and all Dev-C++ users,=0D
=0D
Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 3:03:42 AM, Ioannis wrote as follows:=0D
=0D
IV> "Longhorn=0D
IV> Next major OS version=0D
IV> Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.=0D
IV> OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.=0D
IV> Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed
code.=0D
IV> "=0D
=0D
So, does it mean that if I want to write some progs for new windows=0D
platform I have to (I must) learn .NET API??? Does .NET look at least=0D
something similar to Win32 API or rather like MFC?? Damn, these are=0D
baaaaaad news for me... but Longhorn going to be released at 2004 or=0D
2005?? So I have some more time... damn it!=0D
=0D
=0D
That's why i informed you. :) .NET consists of a virtual machine  (like
Java) and a complete API.=0D
=0D
=2ENET is an independent system, Windows and .NET will *coexist* for some=
 time
 The source code does not get compiled to binary code but to intermediate
bytecode which is compiled at run-time by the virtual machine (named CLR)=
=2E=0D
=0D
Because of this, all languages share the same API and code written in one
language can work with another. For example you can inherit a Visual Basi=
c 7
class to your C++ class, throw an exception in C++ and catch it in C# and=
 so
on. A programming language in .NET world is just a dialect, you can use
whichever you like (for example Oberon).=0D
=0D
=2ENET provides garbage collection so when you allocate memory on the fre=
e
store you do  not have to release it.=0D
=0D
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and not your real architecture. That's why it has its own assembly langua=
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the assembler MS provides  is called ILASM and its disassembler is called
ILDASM. Its assembly language has the notion of objects too!=0D
=0D
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=0D
=0D
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he
fact that it is an open framework for any language while java's framework=
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only for java, it provides options on how your code gets compiled to nati=
ve
binary code  at run-time when it is executed. Line by line, function by
function or it gets all compiled to native binary code at the time of
installation (but i do not know how to configure it yet).=0D
=0D
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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Asko K. <ask...@sc...>]

Maybe off the topic but..  Microsoft recently bought Virtual PC from 
Connectix (the software that makes Win32 run in a 'sandbox' on a Mac). 
I wonder if they need "protection from themselves", ability to emulate 
old Win32 on whatever-state-of-the-art (=.net?) system they want to 
build from scratch.

Basically, this is exactly what OS X does with MacOS classic mode. 
Nothing new under the sun... ;)

P.S. They probably even steal the name and call their new one "OS Y" or 
something.. Or "OS XP"?  >:P

-ak



Per Westermark kirjoittaa tiistaina, 4. maaliskuuta 2003, kello 16:10:

> Unless M$ wants to loose all their market shares, they will think about
> the installed base of Win32 applications.
>
> /Per W
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Louis Godio wrote:
>
>> Will Longhorn support WIN32 API function calls ? or will we need to
>> learn a totaly new API
>>
>>
>> --- Ioannis Vranos <no...@ho...> wrote:
>>> Also it is useful to know that with the current provided information
>>> Longhorn will only support .NET API. That version of .NET is 
>>> code-named
>>> Avalon. Some quotations on that:
>>>
>>>
>>> "The "Visual Studio for Yukon" release will represent a significant
>>> milestone. Following the "Yukon" wave, the next planned platform 
>>> update
>>> is
>>> the Windows release code-named "Longhorn." A tools update, "Visual
>>> Studio
>>> for Longhorn," will support the managed interfaces, enhanced user
>>> interface
>>> features, and other new capabilities of the updated platform."
>>>
>>>
>>> "Longhorn
>>>
>>> Next major OS version
>>> Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.
>>> OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.
>>> Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed
>>> code.
>>> "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Dev-C++] What's the difference?

[<or...@vp...>]

Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> ==> ? In fact allocating/releasing space on the free store is more 
> time-expensive than using local space in the stack.
It is, but using the stack is only advisable for temporary structures.

> How i would do it:
>  
> #include <string>
>  
> struct foo
> {
>  std::string text1, text2, text3;
>  
>  foo(const std::string &t1, const std::string &t2, const std::string &t3):
>      text1(t1), text2(t2), text3(t3) { }
>  
> };
>  
> void whatever(foo &);
> int main()
> {
>  foo something("telos", "ton", "imeron");
>  whatever(something);
> }
>  
> void whatever(foo &pf)
> {
>  // ...
> }
>  
> ==> Or even better i would provide it as a class with access functions.
Well yes, I see now. I don't know C++, so I looked up in a book what you 
wrote, and it seems you use references. Isn't that the same as using 
pointers?
Anyway, in C, pointers are the only way.

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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Per W. <pw...@ia...>]

Unless M$ wants to loose all their market shares, they will think about
the installed base of Win32 applications.

/Per W

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Louis Godio wrote:

> Will Longhorn support WIN32 API function calls ? or will we need to
> learn a totaly new API
>
>
> --- Ioannis Vranos <no...@ho...> wrote:
> > Also it is useful to know that with the current provided information
> > Longhorn will only support .NET API. That version of .NET is code-named
> > Avalon. Some quotations on that:
> >
> >
> > "The "Visual Studio for Yukon" release will represent a significant
> > milestone. Following the "Yukon" wave, the next planned platform update
> > is
> > the Windows release code-named "Longhorn." A tools update, "Visual
> > Studio
> > for Longhorn," will support the managed interfaces, enhanced user
> > interface
> > features, and other new capabilities of the updated platform."
> >
> >
> > "Longhorn
> >
> > Next major OS version
> > Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.
> > OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.
> > Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed
> > code.
> > "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Louis G. <lg...@ya...>]

Will Longhorn support WIN32 API function calls ? or will we need to
learn a totaly new API


--- Ioannis Vranos <no...@ho...> wrote:
> Also it is useful to know that with the current provided information
> Longhorn will only support .NET API. That version of .NET is code-named
> Avalon. Some quotations on that:
> 
> 
> "The "Visual Studio for Yukon" release will represent a significant
> milestone. Following the "Yukon" wave, the next planned platform update
> is
> the Windows release code-named "Longhorn." A tools update, "Visual
> Studio
> for Longhorn," will support the managed interfaces, enhanced user
> interface
> features, and other new capabilities of the updated platform."
> 
> 
> "Longhorn
> 
> Next major OS version
> Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.
> OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.
> Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed
> code.
> "
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Ioannis Vranos
>  
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Re: [Dev-C++] linker error -- undefined reference to 'PlaySoundA@12'

[Matthews <dem...@uw...>]

The way you phrased it makes me believe that you're missing a -lwinmm in
your linker options.

At 04:58 PM 03/03/2003 -0500, Insaciable Mr. K wrote:
>   thats basicaly the jist of it, i cant get  rid of that error, i have
>winmm.lib in my library files, and have mmsystem.h  included along withthe
>other nesesary files included,    heres the call to the playsound function 
>i have, although it is the same format another person used and worked for 
>them.   PlaySound("beam.wav", NULL, SND_FILENAME  | SND_SYNC);   for the
>life of me i cannot figure this  out, and it has stumped many a person,
>please help!     

Re: [Dev-C++] Re: Dev C++ will not compile or run even a simple program

[<cg...@wo...>]

Go to Tools->Compiler options-> directories and set them (the include, 
the library)

erling b wrote:

> Hi!
>
> OS       - Windows XP
> Compiler - Dev-C++ 4.9.7.0
>
> What I did -
>
> 1. File
> new
> Project
> Console application
> OK
>
> Create New Project Window
> FileName Project 1
> save
>
> 2. Wrote simple program
>
> #include <iostream>
> #include <stdlib.h>
>
> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> {
>
> cout << "Hello world";
>
>
> return 0;
> }
>
> 3. Compile gave the following messages
>
> 1 C:\Dev-Cpp\main.cpp
> from main.cpp
> 28 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\iostream:44
> bits/c++config.h: No such file or directory.
> 44 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\ios
> In file included from C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/ios
> 45 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\ostream
> from C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/ostream
> 45 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\iostream
> from C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/iostream
> 1 C:\Dev-Cpp\main.cpp
> from main.cpp
> 28 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\iosfwd:44
> bits/c++config.h: No such file or directory.
> 45 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\iosfwd
> In file included from C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/iosfwd
> 44 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\ios
> from C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/ios
> 45 C:\Dev-Cpp\include\c++\ostream
> from C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/ostream
> etc etc
>
> 4. Program would not compile and, of course, would not run.
>
> I have downloaded all the essential Windows Updates for Windows XP.
>
> This is very frustrating.  Could someone please help me out?
>
> Thanks
> E
>
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Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Zodiaq <zo...@ac...>]

Hello Ioannis and all Dev-C++ users,

Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 3:03:42 AM, Ioannis wrote as follows:

IV> "Longhorn
IV> Next major OS version
IV> Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.
IV> OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.
IV> Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed code.
IV> "

So, does it mean that if I want to write some progs for new windows
platform I have to (I must) learn .NET API??? Does .NET look at least
something similar to Win32 API or rather like MFC?? Damn, these are
baaaaaad news for me... but Longhorn going to be released at 2004 or
2005?? So I have some more time... damn it!

-- 
regards, Zodiaq

Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API

[Daniel G. <sp...@ho...>]

Thanks Ioannis, great getting info and links from you :)






>From: "Ioannis Vranos" <no...@ho...>
>To: "Dev-C++ Mailing List" <dev...@li...>
>Subject: [Dev-C++] Longhorn API
>Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 04:03:42 +0200 (GTB Standard Time)
>
>Also it is useful to know that with the current provided information
>Longhorn will only support .NET API. That version of .NET is code-named
>Avalon. Some quotations on that:
>
>
>"The "Visual Studio for Yukon" release will represent a significant
>milestone. Following the "Yukon" wave, the next planned platform update is
>the Windows release code-named "Longhorn." A tools update, "Visual Studio
>for Longhorn," will support the managed interfaces, enhanced user interface
>features, and other new capabilities of the updated platform."
>
>
>"Longhorn
>
>Next major OS version
>Will contain Avalon the fully .NET Win32 API.
>OS integration with .NET reaches its conclusion.
>Everything that is currently in Windows will be rewritten as managed code.
>"
>
>
>
>
>
>Ioannis Vranos
>
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>* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys
>
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Re: Antwort: Re: [Dev-C++] What's the difference?

[Per W. <pw...@ia...>]

The & is the address-of operator, i.e. it takes the address of a variable.

int *intptr;
int intvariable;

intptr = &intvariable;

/Per W

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Thomas Stoehr wrote:

> this question was also very interesting for me.
> But I have one more question to the pointer story.
> What does the "&" sign mean? When do I need that sign.
> Sorry I know that is a basic question but i do not understand it int the
> book I read
>
> Thanks
>
> thomas

Re: Antwort: Re: [Dev-C++] What's the difference?

[Daniel G. <sp...@ho...>]

Read it as "the address of" if you are using pointers. for example

int NumberOfEmails = 7;

// Create a pointer, QuantityOfEmails, and make it point to
// the (memory) address of NumberOfEmails.
int* QuantityOfEmails = &NumberOfEmails;

So now we can do

std::cout << *QuantityOfEmails << std::endl;   // Outputs '7' to screen




If you are using it with functions...


void FunctionA(int& FreshInt)
{
  FreshInt = 10;
}



It means the function takes a REFERENCE to the integer passed in, i.e. any 
change made in the function affects the original. So the following  code

// Change the ORIGINAL
void FunctionA(int& FreshInt)
{
  FreshInt = 10;
}

and

// Change a COPY - changes are lost when function ends.
void FunctionA(int FreshInt)
{
  FreshInt = 10;
}


are different.

Let us know if you need more help.

Daniel

>From: "Thomas Stoehr" <tho...@vo...>
>To: dev...@li...
>Subject: Antwort: Re: [Dev-C++] What's the difference?
>Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:53:54 +0100
>
>this question was also very interesting for me.
>But I have one more question to the pointer story.
>What does the "&" sign mean? When do I need that sign.
>Sorry I know that is a basic question but i do not understand it int the
>book I read
>
>Thanks
>
>thomas


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Antwort: Re: [Dev-C++] What's the difference?

[Thomas S. <tho...@vo...>]

this question was also very interesting for me.
But I have one more question to the pointer story.
What does the "&" sign mean? When do I need that sign.
Sorry I know that is a basic question but i do not understand it int the 
book I read

Thanks

thomas