how to make a progress bar in bloodshed?
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I am EXTREMELY new at C++ I got it last week and I want to make a progress bar. not a progress bar that measures things I mean just one that goes at the speed I want it set to. I have no skill in C++ whatsoever. in case anyone needs to know. I have Bloodshed Dev C++ 4.9.9.2 beta.
It seems I motivated you at least to engage. I am glad you put in the effort. I truly expected the "screw you then" response; credit then for perseverance and having such a thick skin, or perhaps sense of humour.
> CAUSE I DIDN'T SIGN UP HERE 2 LEARN.
Good; a little honesty at last. In that case you are probably on the wrong forum. What you need is: http://forums.devshed.com/hire-a-programmer-57/
> how can I read it when I have no idea wtf ur talking about.
As I said ENGAGE in discussion. Any points you don't understand, ask for clarification rather than just ignoring them. Since my standard of English is far clearer that your illiterate nonsense, I have no idea what your problem is until you ask.
> look, I didn't come here 2 get my 2 years worth
> of learning these things insulted.
I don't come here to have my 27 years of programming experience ignored by free-loaders.
> already tested the Hello World thing and it works fine.
And the GUI examples I also suggested? They will give you an idea of what is involved in Win32 API programming. There is an significant initial overhead in terms of necessary framework compared with a minimal console app.
> u mispelled "your". (I COULDN'T ENTER MY WHOLE
> USERNAME CAUSE THE STUPID SITE WOULDN'T LET ME!)
You found a typo woot-woot! Thanks I really needed a proof reader; I am certain that is not the only example.
That does not compare however with your deliberate massacring of the language! I agree however that this is a very basic forum where user-friendliness is not paramount. The whole user name was not the issue. It is the fact that it indicates that you have spent a lot to time on game playing. I despise game playing as mostly a waste of life, and make no secret about it.
> I just wanna get a * progress bar so I can quit
> this C++ thing and get bak 2 wat I know cause C++ is
> way 2 confusing 4 me.
There seems to be a misunderstanding then. That is not what we are here for. I see no reason why you should use C++ for this if you are not comfortable with it. Consider this: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vbscript+%22progress+bar%22
Clifford
What have you got so far? Seeing the code that you written thus far might help make your somewhat unclear problem description more clear.
Wayne
I have no code. "I have no skill in C++" so I need a code.
So you are basically soliciting here to have a complete stranger to write code for you for free.
Wayne
uh basically yes...
Oh frak! I composed an answer to your question yesterday, but it appears I forgot to hit post! Doh!
It was a long answer, and frankly now I cannot be bothered.
The just of it was that C++ as a language has no intrinsic support for any I/O let alone GUI elements. That is all provided by libraries and frameworks of which there are many (and just a few standard ones for lowest-common-denominator functionality (stream I/O, string handling, data structures, math functions, memory management - that sort of thing).
If you want to do GUI programming in C++, there is a long way to go between learning the language and developing a application with a GUI interface. Your 'progress bar' concept is kind of starting in the middle (or possibly quite near the end!). Besides that staring at a code example (especially one that does that) is going to teach you next to nothing useful about C++.
Moreover Dev-C++ provides no specific support for GUI development other than providing an interface to the Win32 API. Programming Windows through the basic API is soul-destroying. Consider using wxDev-C++ ( http://wxdsgn.sourceforge.net/ ) instead. With that you can probably (I don't use it myself) drag-and-drop a progress bar, and a timer onto the form, and one each timer event write code to increment teh progress bars value. Presto. You still won't have learned much about C++ though.
Why don't you take a look at the example projects in the c:\dev-cpp\examples folder (copy them to a new folder outside of c:\dev-cpp first). You still won't learn much about C++ though, but you may learn enough to either decide to start taking learning it seriously, or enough to put you off ever going near it again.
Do you have any programming experience at all in any language?
Another way to do Windows GUI development relatively easily is to use either VC++ 2008 Express Edition or VC# 2008 Express Edition, and Windows Forms and the .NET framework. For .NET C++ required C++/CLI extensions, which is a superset of ISO C++. C# n teh other hand was designed from the ground-up to work with .NET.
If all you want to do is learn some programming concepts for fun and do a bit of gee-wow programming, take a look at Microsoft SmallBasic. Not your father's BASIC, but not nasty VB either! http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950524.aspx
Clifford
no GUI I ment wat I set it 2 in the coding
Again? In English perhaps?
um...u know...go download a vbscript IExplore vbscript and ull know wat I'm talking about =] cause in the vbscript coding u change the Sleep 2 a number and it slows it down when it's a high number but goes fast when set lower. I want a standard progress bar (kind of like the 1 Bloodshed has when it compiles) that's just 4 show. u open it and it shows a progress bar like it's loading up. but nothing's going on. so in the source codes or watever u change a number or something and it goes slow or fast. no GUI
EDIT: um...u know...go download a vbscript IExplore vbscript and ull know wat I'm talking about =] cause in the vbscript coding u change the Sleep 2 a number and it slows it down when it's a high number but goes fast when set lower. I want a standard progress bar (kind of like the 1 Bloodshed has when it compiles) that's just 4 show. u open it and it shows a progress bar like it's loading up. but nothing's going on (except the animation of the bar). so in the source codes or watever u change a number or something and it goes slow or fast. no GUI
I still have no idea what you are talking about, and that only approximated English. I have no ideal what a "a vbscript IExplore vbscript" is aprat from syntactic nonsense.
My point still stands, a progress bar is a GUI element, so what do you mean 'no GUI'? (Actually, that is not quite true, I could show you a non-GUI progress bar, but I doubt that it is what you want or expect somehow.)
I think I may have answered your question - update the bar on a timer event. Frankly if that does not mean anything to you, then you are already too far ahead of yourself.
And if you cannot express yourself clearly in terms of requirements we are going to be going around this circle for a long time (unless I choose to disengage from the conversation that is).
Clifford
I just want a code 4 a progress bar in C++ that just comes up, it "looks" like it's loading up. but nothings going on except the animation of the progress bar. I don't want any1 2 set up the bar wit input boxes or anything. I want 2 code how long the progress bar will stay up there (how fast or slow the animation goes) where it only goes as fast as I want it 2 be. (in the coding) I can't make it any clearer.
and sorry I didn't notice wat I wrote. I ment go download a vbscript IExplore progress bar
> I ment go download a vbscript IExplore progress bar
I still have no idea what that is, and I don't see what relevance it has to your C or C++ programming. I already know how a progress bar works, I don't need to see an example!
I say AGAIN, you are asking about how to program a GUI element, but say that you are not interested in GUI programming. Perhaps you should address that paradox first?
Other than that I believe I have answered your question as well as is possible under the circumstances. You might get further if you address some of the points already made. Like how have you got on with the examples I suggested? And what existing programming experience hav you already? (vbscript presumably?)
Clifford
Oh hell, here's a direct answer to the question you asked: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb760816(VS.85).aspx
I am guessing that you will not be able to understand one word of it. If I am wrong I apologise; if I am right however it is the reason why everyone was reluctant to give you a straight answer, you are jumping in at the deep-end when you cannot yet swim. Also if you wanted to do GUI programming and want an easy life, Dev-C++ is the wrong tool.
That link was second rank in Google: "Win32 progress bar" (without quotes). Now if you are not clued up enough to find that information for yourself, then as I suggested before you are way too far ahead of yourself.
Going back to your original post: "how to make a progress bar in bloodshed?" I wonder if perhaps you are not aware of what the tool you are referring to actually is. "Bloodshed" is simply the name of the developer, Dev-C++ is an IDE, C++ is a language, and Win32 is the most basic Windows OS API, and the only one directly supported by Dev-C++ out-of-the-box. So your question should have been "How to make a Win32 progress bar in C++?". That more general but accurate question would get you more information through regular searching. The point is that developing a progress bar is not specific to Bloodshed or Dev-C++, Dev-C++ is a generic tool, and C++ is a standardised language.
By asking how to do it with a particular tool (and getting the name of the tool wrong at the same time!), you are limiting your possible sources for an answer.
But once again I am warning you that using the Win32 API alone is not the easiest way to do this.
Clifford
if C++ ain't 4 me wat can I turn 2? is there a way in C++ that I can load a gif on the screen but witout opening it in a program? I.E. like a splashface but animated? so the progress bar loads up like it's doing something (progress bar does loading up animation) but nothing is really going on (like real loading is not going on) cause Idk how a progress bar is a GUI cause GUI is a interface where u type in something, then it does something accdording 2 the users specification. but I just want a progress bar that comes up and loads like it's loading something but goes as fast or slow as the coding was ALREADY set 2.
There is no magic language that is going to let you do non-trivial
tasks without:
(1) Knowing how to program
(2) Knowing something about the language in question.
I am getting a bad feeling about this. In addition to this being a
HDIDBS question, I am getting a cold feeling that someone is looking
for some code to front for something else.
Wayne
well I just got the program bloodshed but Idk anything about it. I am a batch file, HTML, VBScript programmer hats all the languages I know
There are some good learning resources for learning C++ in the thread titled "Please Read Before Posting a Question"
For an easier start to "real" programming, I usually recommend Python, in particular vpython
www.vpython.org
> if C++ ain't 4 me wat can I turn 2?
I'd start with English! Your prose is starting to annoy. You are not typing with your thumb on a phone, so you can use proper words. The way you type makes me assume that you are a moron, which may be unfair, but that is the impression you give by typing that way. The impression you give is your problem not mine.
http://www.embedded.com/columns/technicalinsights/215900410?cid=RSSfeed_embedded_news
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001248.html
You are asking a question for which I have already made suggestions, so why are you asking it now? If you don't like the suggestions, say that! Engage in this conversation and we might get somwhere; so far is is rather one-way.
I cannot tell whether C++ is for you because throughout this discussion you have consistently failed to engage by responding to any suggestions or questions aimed at determining your level of ability, even when prompted. I am still for example wondering how you think you can have a progress bar, but not be GUI programming!? Moreover, we have not even gotten on to the question of C++; we are still questioning your reasoning for attempting to learn C++ through the medium of the 'progress bar', but we have not resolved that because you won't engage in the discussion you started. It is the means by which you are going about learning C++ that is the concern, not C++ itself. And you appear not to be listening to advice and just keep repeating yourself.
How about you forget about progress bars for the time-being and take a look at some of these:
http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial2.html
http://www.winprog.org/tutorial/
The last of these is the Win32 tutorial, which will equip you with the knowledge required to understand the 'progress bar' example I posted earlier, but not before you have picked up the C++ language fundamentals from one of the first two. Note also as I said before the Win32 API is not the only nor the easiest ways of programming Windows, but because you also failed to engage in that discussion, I have no way of advising you beyond what I have already suggested: that being that Dev-C++ may not the a good choice of C++ development tool.
> is there a way in C++ that I can load a gif on the screen but witout opening it in a program?
I see you have not read a word I have written! If you have a suitable library that provides that functionality yes you can, but now you are changing the subject, what are you going to learn of C++ by doing that? Very little I suggest. You are still trying to start in the middle, and still failing to heed advice.
> cause Idk how a progress bar is a GUI cause GUI is a interface where
> u type in something, then it does something accdording 2 the users
> specification.
Give me strength! That is the worst and most inaccurate definition of a GUI I have ever come across. In fact you have just exactly described a typical console application, the antithesis of a GUI application. Besides that nobody suggested that a progress bar is a GUI, I said it was a GUI element. In Windows specifically, the progress bar is one of the Common Control elements like the "print dialog" or the "color picker", it is a built-in feature of the OS.
> well I just got the program bloodshed but Idk anything about it.
Again you are not listening! I explained this already; Bloodshed is not a program, it is a company (of sorts). Dev-C++ is a program, but it is not a programming language. C++ is the programming language that Dev-C++ enables you to use. This may not seem important to you, but
> I am a batch file, HTML, VBScript programmer hats all the languages I know
I am glad to see you did not count English amongst your language skills. HTML is not a programming language so that does not count for much, and batch files are more a facility that a language.
All we are saying is "start at the beginning!", but we do not even know (because you have not told us) if you have even got to first-base and compiled an run your first simple program yet. It is important because you do at least need to test that you have installed the tool correctly and that you can perform the most basic compile-and-run before you proceed to anything more elaborate.
Because you attention span seems so short (perhaps your user-name is a clue as to why that might be), and because your linguistic skills are so lacking, I sincerely doubt that you are reading this paragraph. Now if I just repeat the name "Zero" three times, do you think he himself will appear an put this thread to death as it should be!?
Anyway you can probably sense that I have lost patience with you and this thread. You are going to have to suddenly turn into the most eloquent and forthcoming of correspondents for me to be moved to continue. But by now you have probably decided to ignore the mean nasty man in any case.
Clifford
I think the entry on HDIDBS questions may apply here.
Then again, unlike most of the "I want to learn to program, can someone
write me an example of a fun game that I can use to learn from?" types,
I am not sure that this guy actually wants to learn anything. As he
basically confirmed earlier in the thread, he wants someone to write
him a program to do something, and he wants, no, basically expects
complete strangers to do it for him for free. And, as his reponse
indicates, he sees nothing wrong with requesting this.
Wayne
> I'd start with English! Your prose is starting to annoy.
wat? never talked 2 a idiot b4? u act like this is ur 1st time talking 2 some1 who doesn't understand A WORD UR SAYING.
> You are asking a question for which I have already made suggestions, so why are you asking it now?
CAUSE I DIDN'T SIGN UP HERE 2 LEARN. I WANT SOME1 2 MAKE A PROGRESS BAR 4 ME THAT JUST COMES UP, DOES ANIMATION, THEN EXITS.
> I see you have not read a word I have written!
how can I read it when I have no idea wtf ur talking about.
> what are you going to learn of C++ by doing that? Very little I suggest. You are still trying to start in the middle
again, I'm not here 2 learn
> I am glad to see you did not count English amongst your language skills. HTML is not a programming language so that does not count for much, and batch files are more a facility that a language.
look, I didn't come here 2 get my 2 years worth of learning these things insulted.
> if you have even got to first-base and compiled an run your first simple program yet. It is important because you do at least need to test that you have installed the tool correctly and that you can perform the most basic compile-and-run before you proceed to anything more elaborate.
already tested the Hello World thing and it works fine.
> Because you attention span seems so short (perhaps your user-name is a clue as to why that might be
u mispelled "your". (I COULDN'T ENTER MY WHOLE USERNAME CAUSE THE STUPID SITE WOULDN'T LET ME!)
> But by now you have probably decided to ignore the mean nasty man in any case.
I'm trying my best but I'm not good wit posts, since u don't know my life, then u don't know I'm the LAZIEST person in the whole country. I'm sorry if I'm making u lose ur patience but I just wanna get a fucking progress bar so I can quit this C++ thing and get bak 2 wat I know cause C++ is way 2 confusing 4 me.