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From: <lie...@po...> - 2005-11-24 08:42:04
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Hi, we have a project going on and we need a HTML renderer. Obviously deng would be a great choice. But we need to be able to create our own tags. We have html wherein inputfields/dropfields/... should be rendered. We also need access to these custom tags.=20 =20 I didn't find any well documented examples on this issue. Can anybody help me with this. How do you create a custom tag?=20 =20 Thx, Lieven Cardoen =20 Vriendelijke groeten, Lieven Cardoen PointX Multimedia Engelse Wandeling 2 K18 8500 Kortrijk Tel. 056 361197 Fax 056 35 26 48 www.pointx.be <http://www.pointx.be/>=20 =20 |
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From: KevinBenson <km...@ms...> - 2005-06-20 13:14:45
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I was curious to know if there is anyway of getting a tooltip to work for an image and if I could get an example. I tried the "alt" attribute and the "title" attribute in a couple of various forms. I also saw that there is a CSS way of doing tooltips and gave it a try again no luck there. And I believe I even tried "onmouseover" and again nothing. I saw on the forum list it sounded like it is going to a feature added, but just wanted confirmation there is no way of having a tooltip. Thanks for any replies, Kevin |
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From: KevinBenson <km...@ms...> - 2005-06-17 20:24:21
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Yes fairly certain I tried the file:/// piece (dent 1.0.40) that is and I
could not get it to work. It is okay for now though, I have a work around.
But it means I need to clean up some of these dynamic xforms files I am
making myself instead of using the default temporary directory that all
servlet containers have which cleans everything up for you.
Yes currently I have a jsp that is sort of writing out that container html
that you have (sort of a container within a containger :) ) Works good it
is pure flash though, but I am tempted to try out the UGO ("Stefano") has to
get it working.
I made a small attempt at it the other day and took me a little bit to to
notice that I needed an html and a xml file with the exact same content
information. Then tried to tweak for some reason the examples/test_repeat
and examples/flashless_deng areas and it would not try a post submission.
So almost gave up till I did notice tweaking examples/deng did do all the
post submissions correctly, so yep I may try and use that.
Thanks for your help
Cheers,
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Wahlers [mailto:cla...@gm...]
Sent: 17 June 2005 17:05
To: KevinBenson
Cc: Stefano Debenedetti; Deng-Talk
Subject: Re: [deng-talk] Deng and xforms questions
> Just like to say I decided to go ahead and use Deng, I found a way where I
> should be able to merge some xml document instances together using Sax
> or really Stax.
Great!
> And then wait around till the next installment of Deng comes,
> which I presume may be through the Ugo project which I have already seen
> some of its abilities and quite like.
There will be two things. The UGO Project as it exists today is a
quite advanced ECMAScript XForms implementation that runs natively in
the browser (to date Mozilla and IE i think). And there will be DENG
2.0, a rewrite of the DENG engine you are using now, targeted for
Flash Player 8.5 (development starts later this year, so don't expect
it to be available before next year).
> I would like to ask one more question. (I know there is always one more
> question :) ) The FlashVars value attribute (index.html) can you put
> actual filenames in it? Where it would be good for Linux and Windows. It
> seems I can do relative to the url/path I am in, but was wondering if you
> support doing things like c:\Temp\filename.xml I tried it several ways
> escaping slashes and and file: protocol, but no luck.
Have you tried file:///c:/Temp/filename.xml ?
You can also avoid using those container html's alltogether and use
JavaScript to dynamically embed DENG directly into your XHTML/XForms
documents. Stefano developed a method for UGO, and i developed a
simpler method i called SEFFS:
http://demaledetti.net/ugo/examples/deng/sample_xforms_nostyle.html
http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/seffs-to-flash-or-not-to-flash/
cheers,
claus.
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From: Claus W. <cla...@gm...> - 2005-06-17 16:04:49
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> Just like to say I decided to go ahead and use Deng, I found a way where = I > should be able to merge some xml document instances together using Sax > or really Stax. Great! > And then wait around till the next installment of Deng comes, > which I presume may be through the Ugo project which I have already seen > some of its abilities and quite like. There will be two things. The UGO Project as it exists today is a quite advanced ECMAScript XForms implementation that runs natively in the browser (to date Mozilla and IE i think). And there will be DENG 2.0, a rewrite of the DENG engine you are using now, targeted for Flash Player 8.5 (development starts later this year, so don't expect it to be available before next year). > I would like to ask one more question. (I know there is always one more > question :) ) The FlashVars value attribute (index.html) can you put > actual filenames in it? Where it would be good for Linux and Windows. I= t > seems I can do relative to the url/path I am in, but was wondering if you > support doing things like c:\Temp\filename.xml I tried it several ways > escaping slashes and and file: protocol, but no luck. Have you tried file:///c:/Temp/filename.xml ? You can also avoid using those container html's alltogether and use JavaScript to dynamically embed DENG directly into your XHTML/XForms documents. Stefano developed a method for UGO, and i developed a simpler method i called SEFFS: http://demaledetti.net/ugo/examples/deng/sample_xforms_nostyle.html http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/seffs-to-flash-or-not-to-flash/ cheers, claus. |
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From: KevinBenson <km...@ms...> - 2005-06-17 15:36:54
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Just like to say I decided to go ahead and use Deng, I found a way where I should be able to merge some xml document instances together using Sax or really Stax. And then wait around till the next installment of Deng comes, which I presume may be through the Ugo project which I have already seen some of its abilities and quite like. I just typically like the lightweight approach that you have. Tried orbeon and yes I was getting it close to work but so heavyweight and sometimes a headache with the learning curve, I went through cocoon don't care to go through Orbeon. When I packaged my war with Orbeon it went from 8mb to 20mb yuck. Don't get me wrong Orbeon is nice (very nice in fact) might even like it better than cocoon; just heavy with a learning curve to get over. And Chiba requires me to move jars around in tomcat which I can't quite do in the type of environment I am in. So I think I am getting close to having Deng work for me. I would like to ask one more question. (I know there is always one more question :) ) The FlashVars value attribute (index.html) can you put actual filenames in it? Where it would be good for Linux and Windows. It seems I can do relative to the url/path I am in, but was wondering if you support doing things like c:\Temp\filename.xml I tried it several ways escaping slashes and and file: protocol, but no luck. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Stefano Debenedetti [mailto:st...@de...] Sent: 06 June 2005 15:04 To: KevinBenson Cc: Deng-Talk Subject: Re: [deng-talk] Deng and xforms questions Hi Kevin, thanks for using Deng and for your feedback :-) answers inline: KevinBenson ha scritto: > I am a little new to all this, but starting to figure out xforms and Deng. > I am experimenting with Deng at the moment and would like to use it for my > xforms. I seem to be having some problems and they really seem quite basic, > so I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Many Thanks in advance for your > help in replying to this: > Below I put down a subsection of my model and input controls. > > Problem 1 - Binding: > I can't seem to get the most basic binding working. Such as having an > element be required. The form is always submitted even if I blank out the > text box. Deng doesn't support model item properties at all, so no relevant, no required, no constraint and so on... > Confirmation: > Can you please confirm that your instance document needs to have all the > elements in there that match your form controls? Quite typically I have a > lot of elements that are optional in the schema hence they might not be in > the instance document, from what I can tell I can have a form control, but > it is ignored because it is not in the instance document and never sent when > I hit submit. Is there a way to have this work (maybe using relevant) where > I can submit data and have it show up in the xml when submitted even if it > was not in the original instance document? The XForms way of doing this is via the "lazy authoring" [1] (instance creation out of form controls [2]), which is not supported by Deng.. [1] http://xformsinstitute.com/lesson1.php [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms/slice4.html#evt-modelConstruct > setvalue: > In the above question if I do need to have everything in the instance > document, then I think I have a workaround by using <xforms:setvalue with a > 2nd instance document that will be in the model. Can somebody give me an > example of a setvalue for a basic input control. And preferbly referencing > a 2nd instance document. I againt tried several things to use setvalue and > nothing. your setvalue should work but it is not for a couple of reasons: 1) xforms-ready is an event targetted at the model, not at the form controls 2) xforms-ready is not supported by Deng anyway :-) while Deng has full XML-Events support, the only event actually defined is "click", which is the wrong name for what should now be called "DOMActivate" so that setvalue should work if you use a trigger: <xf:trigger> <xf:label>click me</xf:label> <xf:setvalue ev:event="click" ref="......">....</xf:setvalue> </xf:trigger> > **side note: I have just noticed that the xforms namespace I use does not > have the "/cr" at the end, but I suspect that does not matter. The controls > seem to be rendered correctly and data is being submitted. yes, both namespaces are supported in Deng. I am sorry to see Deng seems to be falling short of your requirements, Deng development is currently split between a full rewrite [3] and a port to non-flash javascript environments (like IE or Mozilla) [4]. While the first effort AFAIK has not released any code yet, the second offers some improvements over the old Deng: the DOMActivate event, partial "relevant" model item property support, select controls, repeat controls with number > 1.... Any help/patch/code/suggestion will be highly appreciated on both fronts, thanks ciao ste [3] http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/?p=21 [4] http://demaledetti.net/ugo/ > ---- > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?> > <html xmlns:ev="http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events" > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > xmlns:xf="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms" > xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms" > xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" > xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" > xmlns:vr="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10"> > .... > > <xforms:model id="model1" xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms"> > <xforms:instance id="resinstance"> > <vr:Resource > xmlns="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10" > xmlns:vr="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10" > xmlns:vs="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v0.5" > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" > xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > updated="2004-11-20T15:34:22Z" status="inactive"> > <title>File Manager Service Entry</title> > <shortname/> > <identifier>ivo://@REGAUTHORITY@/filemanager-one</identifier> > <curation> > <publisher>testcont</publisher> > </curation> > </vr:Resource> > </xforms:instance> > > <xforms:submission method="post" > action="http://localhost:8080/reg/xforms/XFormsEditEntry.jsp" id="s00"/> > > <!-- the instance data text tends to show up in the text box, but the > required does not work > decided to add constraint to see if it makes a difference nothing. And > tried having the nodeset as /vr:Resource/vr:curation/vr:publisher same > results. --> > <xforms:bind id="pubBind" nodeset="vr:curation/vr:publisher" > constraint="string-length(.) > 10" required="true()" /> > </xforms:model> > ... > > <xforms:input ref="vr:shortname"> > <xforms:label>Short Name:</xforms:label> > <!-- > Tried to do a setValue in several ways sometimes up in the model area > sometimes here. Nothing works. > <xforms:action ev:event="xforms-ready"> > <xforms:setvalue ref="vr:shortname" ev:event="xforms-ready">My > short</xforms:setvalue> > </xforms:action> > <xforms:setvalue bind="stBind" ev:event="xforms-ready">My > short</xforms:setvalue> > <xforms:setvalue ref="vr:shortname" ev:event="xforms-ready">My > short</xforms:setvalue> > --> > </xforms:input> > > > <!-- > Well the text value shows in the text box, but the constraint or being > required never seems to work. > --> > <xforms:input bind="pubBind"> > <xforms:label>Publisher:</xforms:label> > </xforms:input> > > <!-- > Not defined in the instance document and hence cannot get this submitted > in the xml unless it is in the instance document. > --> > <xforms:input ref="vr:curation/vr:contributer"> > <xforms:label>Contributer:</xforms:label> > </xforms:input> > > .... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > dengmx-talk mailing list > den...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dengmx-talk > |
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From: KevinBenson <km...@ms...> - 2005-06-06 15:06:13
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Wonderfull thanks, that clears most things up. I do like DENG because it is quite lightweight, my webapp with axis web services, eXist xmldb, and a few other 3rd party components was already getting a little heavyweight so I sort of like how DENG was with just a few pages. I managed to generate the xforms dynamically and let DENG at it. I could probably work around most of the things you mentioned, but the one I think I would need is that setValue on a 2nd instance. That way I could have the full xml instance be first and then a second instance of what the user was editing. The setValue you have I think would work, but requires a "click" hence a button which I really don't want. Okay I guess I will wait around till the next DENG, until then I will look into other things like the heavier chiba or orbeon. Doubt I could help much; probably like everybody else I am quite busy. And to be honest I don't know FLASH at all, but I guess if you wanted any kind of XML/XPATH/XQuery type help then maybe I can look at a few things. If you told me where to actually look for all the source code, so far I have not looked at any files with DENG. Cheers, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Stefano Debenedetti [mailto:st...@de...] Sent: 06 June 2005 15:04 To: KevinBenson Cc: Deng-Talk Subject: Re: [deng-talk] Deng and xforms questions Hi Kevin, thanks for using Deng and for your feedback :-) answers inline: KevinBenson ha scritto: > I am a little new to all this, but starting to figure out xforms and Deng. > I am experimenting with Deng at the moment and would like to use it for my > xforms. I seem to be having some problems and they really seem quite basic, > so I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Many Thanks in advance for your > help in replying to this: > Below I put down a subsection of my model and input controls. > > Problem 1 - Binding: > I can't seem to get the most basic binding working. Such as having an > element be required. The form is always submitted even if I blank out the > text box. Deng doesn't support model item properties at all, so no relevant, no required, no constraint and so on... > Confirmation: > Can you please confirm that your instance document needs to have all the > elements in there that match your form controls? Quite typically I have a > lot of elements that are optional in the schema hence they might not be in > the instance document, from what I can tell I can have a form control, but > it is ignored because it is not in the instance document and never sent when > I hit submit. Is there a way to have this work (maybe using relevant) where > I can submit data and have it show up in the xml when submitted even if it > was not in the original instance document? The XForms way of doing this is via the "lazy authoring" [1] (instance creation out of form controls [2]), which is not supported by Deng.. [1] http://xformsinstitute.com/lesson1.php [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms/slice4.html#evt-modelConstruct > setvalue: > In the above question if I do need to have everything in the instance > document, then I think I have a workaround by using <xforms:setvalue with a > 2nd instance document that will be in the model. Can somebody give me an > example of a setvalue for a basic input control. And preferbly referencing > a 2nd instance document. I againt tried several things to use setvalue and > nothing. your setvalue should work but it is not for a couple of reasons: 1) xforms-ready is an event targetted at the model, not at the form controls 2) xforms-ready is not supported by Deng anyway :-) while Deng has full XML-Events support, the only event actually defined is "click", which is the wrong name for what should now be called "DOMActivate" so that setvalue should work if you use a trigger: <xf:trigger> <xf:label>click me</xf:label> <xf:setvalue ev:event="click" ref="......">....</xf:setvalue> </xf:trigger> > **side note: I have just noticed that the xforms namespace I use does not > have the "/cr" at the end, but I suspect that does not matter. The controls > seem to be rendered correctly and data is being submitted. yes, both namespaces are supported in Deng. I am sorry to see Deng seems to be falling short of your requirements, Deng development is currently split between a full rewrite [3] and a port to non-flash javascript environments (like IE or Mozilla) [4]. While the first effort AFAIK has not released any code yet, the second offers some improvements over the old Deng: the DOMActivate event, partial "relevant" model item property support, select controls, repeat controls with number > 1.... Any help/patch/code/suggestion will be highly appreciated on both fronts, thanks ciao ste [3] http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/?p=21 [4] http://demaledetti.net/ugo/ > ---- > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?> > <html xmlns:ev="http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events" > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > xmlns:xf="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms" > xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms" > xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" > xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" > xmlns:vr="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10"> > .... > > <xforms:model id="model1" xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms"> > <xforms:instance id="resinstance"> > <vr:Resource > xmlns="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10" > xmlns:vr="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10" > xmlns:vs="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v0.5" > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" > xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > updated="2004-11-20T15:34:22Z" status="inactive"> > <title>File Manager Service Entry</title> > <shortname/> > <identifier>ivo://@REGAUTHORITY@/filemanager-one</identifier> > <curation> > <publisher>testcont</publisher> > </curation> > </vr:Resource> > </xforms:instance> > > <xforms:submission method="post" > action="http://localhost:8080/reg/xforms/XFormsEditEntry.jsp" id="s00"/> > > <!-- the instance data text tends to show up in the text box, but the > required does not work > decided to add constraint to see if it makes a difference nothing. And > tried having the nodeset as /vr:Resource/vr:curation/vr:publisher same > results. --> > <xforms:bind id="pubBind" nodeset="vr:curation/vr:publisher" > constraint="string-length(.) > 10" required="true()" /> > </xforms:model> > ... > > <xforms:input ref="vr:shortname"> > <xforms:label>Short Name:</xforms:label> > <!-- > Tried to do a setValue in several ways sometimes up in the model area > sometimes here. Nothing works. > <xforms:action ev:event="xforms-ready"> > <xforms:setvalue ref="vr:shortname" ev:event="xforms-ready">My > short</xforms:setvalue> > </xforms:action> > <xforms:setvalue bind="stBind" ev:event="xforms-ready">My > short</xforms:setvalue> > <xforms:setvalue ref="vr:shortname" ev:event="xforms-ready">My > short</xforms:setvalue> > --> > </xforms:input> > > > <!-- > Well the text value shows in the text box, but the constraint or being > required never seems to work. > --> > <xforms:input bind="pubBind"> > <xforms:label>Publisher:</xforms:label> > </xforms:input> > > <!-- > Not defined in the instance document and hence cannot get this submitted > in the xml unless it is in the instance document. > --> > <xforms:input ref="vr:curation/vr:contributer"> > <xforms:label>Contributer:</xforms:label> > </xforms:input> > > .... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > dengmx-talk mailing list > den...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dengmx-talk > |
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From: KevinBenson <km...@ms...> - 2005-06-06 10:26:40
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I am a little new to all this, but starting to figure out xforms and Deng. I am experimenting with Deng at the moment and would like to use it for my xforms. I seem to be having some problems and they really seem quite basic, so I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Many Thanks in advance for your help in replying to this: Below I put down a subsection of my model and input controls. Problem 1 - Binding: I can't seem to get the most basic binding working. Such as having an element be required. The form is always submitted even if I blank out the text box. Confirmation: Can you please confirm that your instance document needs to have all the elements in there that match your form controls? Quite typically I have a lot of elements that are optional in the schema hence they might not be in the instance document, from what I can tell I can have a form control, but it is ignored because it is not in the instance document and never sent when I hit submit. Is there a way to have this work (maybe using relevant) where I can submit data and have it show up in the xml when submitted even if it was not in the original instance document? setvalue: In the above question if I do need to have everything in the instance document, then I think I have a workaround by using <xforms:setvalue with a 2nd instance document that will be in the model. Can somebody give me an example of a setvalue for a basic input control. And preferbly referencing a 2nd instance document. I againt tried several things to use setvalue and nothing. **side note: I have just noticed that the xforms namespace I use does not have the "/cr" at the end, but I suspect that does not matter. The controls seem to be rendered correctly and data is being submitted. ---- <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?> <html xmlns:ev="http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xf="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms" xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms" xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:vr="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10"> .... <xforms:model id="model1" xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms"> <xforms:instance id="resinstance"> <vr:Resource xmlns="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10" xmlns:vr="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VOResource/v0.10" xmlns:vs="http://www.ivoa.net/xml/VODataService/v0.5" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" updated="2004-11-20T15:34:22Z" status="inactive"> <title>File Manager Service Entry</title> <shortname/> <identifier>ivo://@REGAUTHORITY@/filemanager-one</identifier> <curation> <publisher>testcont</publisher> </curation> </vr:Resource> </xforms:instance> <xforms:submission method="post" action="http://localhost:8080/reg/xforms/XFormsEditEntry.jsp" id="s00"/> <!-- the instance data text tends to show up in the text box, but the required does not work decided to add constraint to see if it makes a difference nothing. And tried having the nodeset as /vr:Resource/vr:curation/vr:publisher same results. --> <xforms:bind id="pubBind" nodeset="vr:curation/vr:publisher" constraint="string-length(.) > 10" required="true()" /> </xforms:model> ... <xforms:input ref="vr:shortname"> <xforms:label>Short Name:</xforms:label> <!-- Tried to do a setValue in several ways sometimes up in the model area sometimes here. Nothing works. <xforms:action ev:event="xforms-ready"> <xforms:setvalue ref="vr:shortname" ev:event="xforms-ready">My short</xforms:setvalue> </xforms:action> <xforms:setvalue bind="stBind" ev:event="xforms-ready">My short</xforms:setvalue> <xforms:setvalue ref="vr:shortname" ev:event="xforms-ready">My short</xforms:setvalue> --> </xforms:input> <!-- Well the text value shows in the text box, but the constraint or being required never seems to work. --> <xforms:input bind="pubBind"> <xforms:label>Publisher:</xforms:label> </xforms:input> <!-- Not defined in the instance document and hence cannot get this submitted in the xml unless it is in the instance document. --> <xforms:input ref="vr:curation/vr:contributer"> <xforms:label>Contributer:</xforms:label> </xforms:input> .... |
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From: Claus W. <cl...@co...> - 2004-10-06 22:10:57
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reminder: DENG Developer Chat Tomorrow, Thursday October 7, 16:00 GMT On IRC, server: irc.freenode.net, channel: #codeazur Hope to see many of you, we got interesting news! cheers, claus. codeazur.com Timezone info: San Francisco: 09:00 New York City: 12:00 GMT: 16:00 London: 17:00 Berlin: 18:00 |
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From: Claus W. <cla...@gm...> - 2004-08-18 15:13:29
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reminder: DENG Developer Chat: tomorrow, Thursday August 19, 16:00 GMT on IRC server: irc.freenode.net, channel: #codeazur we have plenty of neat things to announce concerning DENG Version 2 etc. hope to see many of you in the chat tomorrow! cheers, claus. timezone info: San Francisco: 09:00 New York City: 12:00 GMT: 16:00 London: 17:00 Berlin: 18:00 |
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From: Jim C. <ji...@ps...> - 2004-07-15 14:24:34
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Since Claus hasn't announced it yet... This is a reminder for the next DENG Dev Chat, scheduled for today, July 15th at 18:00 CEST (noon US Eastern, 9:00am US Pacific). Since the first DENG Dev Chat on July 1st, they're now being held biweekly on the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of each month. As was the case before, it's held on IRC, server irc.freenode.net, channel #codeazur. I look forward to seeing a lot of us there as we continue to discuss the current development status of this now award-winning application and where it's headed for the future. Regards, Jim |
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From: Ben K. <zu...@ma...> - 2004-07-08 15:52:03
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Hello, me again! On the DENG examples page, under input styling, I see a demo of an XForms input control using verdana as its font in both the label and the input::value. In my code, I can't seem to change the font used for the value. I tried downloading the code from the example site, but it crashed DENG (made it run too slowly). Currently I'm specifying the font in a "body" selector. My code is at <http://ben.vpd.utexas.edu/odr/index.html> (which points to odr.html). Also: is it possible to style the buttons and indicator ("1 of 3") text used when DENG draws a <repeat>? Oh, one last thing: am I correct in my conclusion that DENG does not support switch/case/toggle? Thanks! Ben -- Ben Kimball <mailto:zu...@ma...> Web Application Developer <phoneto:512.232.2006> Office of Resource Development, UT Austin <walkto:DEV1.102> |
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From: Stefano D. <st...@de...> - 2004-07-07 16:27:11
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Hello Ben, you are missing a ev:event="click" on the insert element
ciao
ste
Ben Kimball wrote:
> Anyone see anything wrong with the following code? (Adapted from XForms
> Essentials by Micah Dubinko.)
>
> <xf:group ref="/odr/faculty/acad">
> <xf:label>Academic Activities</xf:label>
> <xf:group ref="course">
> <xf:label>Course Information</xf:label>
> <xf:repeat nodeset="/odr/faculty/acad/course" id="r1">
> <xf:input ref="sem"><xf:label>Semester</xf:label></xf:input>
> <xf:input ref="abbr"><xf:label>Course Abbr</xf:label></xf:input>
> <xf:input ref="name"><xf:label>Course Name</xf:label></xf:input>
> </xf:repeat>
> <xf:trigger>
> <xf:label>Add Course</xf:label>
> <xf:insert nodeset="/odr/faculty/acad/course" at="index('r1')"
> position="after"/>
> </xf:trigger>
> </xf:group>
> </xf:group>
>
> The idea is to allow professors to enter basic information about the courses
> they've taught. The trouble is, DENG isn't doing anything when the Add
> Course button is pressed; it still shows "1 of 1" in the repeat area.
>
> Thanks!
> Ben
>
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From: Ben K. <zu...@ma...> - 2004-07-07 16:03:01
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Anyone see anything wrong with the following code? (Adapted from XForms
Essentials by Micah Dubinko.)
<xf:group ref="/odr/faculty/acad">
<xf:label>Academic Activities</xf:label>
<xf:group ref="course">
<xf:label>Course Information</xf:label>
<xf:repeat nodeset="/odr/faculty/acad/course" id="r1">
<xf:input ref="sem"><xf:label>Semester</xf:label></xf:input>
<xf:input ref="abbr"><xf:label>Course Abbr</xf:label></xf:input>
<xf:input ref="name"><xf:label>Course Name</xf:label></xf:input>
</xf:repeat>
<xf:trigger>
<xf:label>Add Course</xf:label>
<xf:insert nodeset="/odr/faculty/acad/course" at="index('r1')"
position="after"/>
</xf:trigger>
</xf:group>
</xf:group>
The idea is to allow professors to enter basic information about the courses
they've taught. The trouble is, DENG isn't doing anything when the Add
Course button is pressed; it still shows "1 of 1" in the repeat area.
Thanks!
Ben
--
Ben Kimball <mailto:zu...@ma...>
Web Application Developer <phoneto:512.232.2006>
Office of Resource Development, UT Austin <walkto:DEV1.102>
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From: Jim C. <ji...@ps...> - 2004-07-01 20:05:41
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Claus has kindly posted the log from today's DENG Developer Chat on Freenode's #codeazur. If you missed the chat, you can catch what was discussed at: http://claus.packts.net/deng/chat/chatlog_20040701.txt Jim |
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From: Claus W. <cl...@co...> - 2004-06-30 17:40:14
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This is a reminder for our DENG Dev Chat tomorrow, July 1st, at 18:00 CEST (noon US Eastern, 9am US Pacific). This session, co-hosted by Steven Pemberton, covers topics like the history, present and future of DENG and explains what DENG is all about and how it works. We'll have an open discussion afterwards, where you are invited to ask questions to W3C officials and the DENG developers, and discuss web standards in general. The session will be hosted on IRC, server irc.freenode.net, channel #codeazur. Looking forward to see many of you tomorrow! (I'll be around there from time to time in the next hours, just in case you wanna chat) Please tell all your friends :) cheers, claus. |
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From: Stefano D. <st...@de...> - 2004-06-30 00:08:17
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hello Ben,
sorry, no model item property is supported at the moment in DENG
ciao
ste
Ben Kimball ha scritto:
> Hey all.
>
> I just put together a simple offline table lookup form. It has two
> instances; one for user interaction (integers specifying row and column,
> plus a third for output) and one for the data table, which is in an XML
> file. The output element has a bind element specifying a calculation to do
> the actual lookup:
>
> ...
> <xf:bind nodeset="/root/xp"
> calculate="instance('xptable')/row[@lvl=instance('form')/lvl]/xp[@cr=instanc
> e('form')/cr]"/>
> ...
>
> In formsPlayer this is working correctly; anytime focus leaves an input box,
> fP recalculates the db lookup and updates the output element with the new
> value. In DENG, though, the output element remains blank.
>
> Here's a sample of the data table file:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
> <xptable>
> <row lvl="1">
> <xp cr="1">300</xp>
> <xp cr="2">600</xp>
> <xp cr="3">900</xp>
> <xp cr="4">1350</xp>
> <xp cr="5">1800</xp>
> <xp cr="6">2700</xp>
> <xp cr="7">3600</xp>
> <xp cr="8">5400</xp>
> <xp cr="9">7200</xp>
> <xp cr="10">10800</xp>
> </row>
> <row lvl="2">
> <xp cr="1">300</xp>
> <xp cr="2">600</xp>
> ...
>
> Any ideas? Maybe my XPath expression is bad? I'm brand new to it, so I
> wouldn't be surprised.
>
> You can check out the (non-) working code at
> <http://ben.vpd.utexas.edu/xforms/> (DENG loader page) or
> <http://ben.vpd.utexas.edu/xforms/xp.html> (if you're not using DENG). Note
> that the fP-specific <?import?> tag in the <head> element needs to come out
> for DENG to parse the file.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
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From: Ben K. <zu...@ma...> - 2004-06-25 19:40:13
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Hey all.
I just put together a simple offline table lookup form. It has two
instances; one for user interaction (integers specifying row and column,
plus a third for output) and one for the data table, which is in an XML
file. The output element has a bind element specifying a calculation to do
the actual lookup:
...
<xf:bind nodeset="/root/xp"
calculate="instance('xptable')/row[@lvl=instance('form')/lvl]/xp[@cr=instanc
e('form')/cr]"/>
...
In formsPlayer this is working correctly; anytime focus leaves an input box,
fP recalculates the db lookup and updates the output element with the new
value. In DENG, though, the output element remains blank.
Here's a sample of the data table file:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<xptable>
<row lvl="1">
<xp cr="1">300</xp>
<xp cr="2">600</xp>
<xp cr="3">900</xp>
<xp cr="4">1350</xp>
<xp cr="5">1800</xp>
<xp cr="6">2700</xp>
<xp cr="7">3600</xp>
<xp cr="8">5400</xp>
<xp cr="9">7200</xp>
<xp cr="10">10800</xp>
</row>
<row lvl="2">
<xp cr="1">300</xp>
<xp cr="2">600</xp>
...
Any ideas? Maybe my XPath expression is bad? I'm brand new to it, so I
wouldn't be surprised.
You can check out the (non-) working code at
<http://ben.vpd.utexas.edu/xforms/> (DENG loader page) or
<http://ben.vpd.utexas.edu/xforms/xp.html> (if you're not using DENG). Note
that the fP-specific <?import?> tag in the <head> element needs to come out
for DENG to parse the file.
Cheers,
Ben
--
Ben Kimball <mailto:zu...@ma...>
Web Application Developer <phoneto:512.232.2006>
Office of Resource Development, UT Austin <walkto:DEV1.102>
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From: Ben K. <zu...@ma...> - 2004-06-23 21:44:10
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> ooops sorry, I just happened to look at the form and notice you don't have > any instance in it. Hooray! That did the trick. Now at least I know I'm not crazy and DENG does submit forms. :) Thanks very much, Ben -- Ben Kimball <mailto:zu...@ma...> Web Application Developer <phoneto:512.232.2006> Office of Resource Development, UT Austin <walkto:DEV1.102> |
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From: Ben K. <zu...@ma...> - 2004-06-23 21:38:13
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------ Forwarded Message From: Stefano Debenedetti <st...@de...> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 23:29:21 +0200 To: Ben Kimball <zu...@ma...> Subject: Re: [deng-talk] DENG not posting data ooops sorry, I just happened to look at the form and notice you don't have any instance in it... DENG is not supporting automatic creation of instance nodes from form controls yet... and it doesn't even implement the GET method if I remember well... Ah and you cannot POST (nor GET btw) to a domain that's different from the one you loaded the SWF from... unless you use some contorted security procedure which involves putting a SWF containing the URL of your domain on the server you want to HTTP to... that's documented on some technote on Macromedia's website but I don't think that's what you are looking for now :-) thanks, ciao ste p.s. for some reason I am still investigating my mail server cannot relay to sourceforge.. could you please fwd this to the list? Ben Kimball ha scritto: > I'm having trouble getting DENG running in Safari or IE/Mac to post data > from my XForms document. This is my first XForms form, so I certainly don't > discount the possibility that I've authored it incorrectly, but it does > validate (<http://xformsinstitute.com/validator/>). > > The form is at <http://ben.vpd.utexas.edu/xforms/index.html>. (Actually, > that's just the DENG loader file; the form is at google.html). Just to be > sure it's not my form receiver PHP script with the problem, I've pointed the > form at the googel example, where it's clear no query is being received. > > I'd appreciate any help. > > Thanks, > Ben > ------ End of Forwarded Message |
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From: Ben K. <zu...@ma...> - 2004-06-23 20:10:20
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I'm having trouble getting DENG running in Safari or IE/Mac to post data from my XForms document. This is my first XForms form, so I certainly don't discount the possibility that I've authored it incorrectly, but it does validate (<http://xformsinstitute.com/validator/>). The form is at <http://ben.vpd.utexas.edu/xforms/index.html>. (Actually, that's just the DENG loader file; the form is at google.html). Just to be sure it's not my form receiver PHP script with the problem, I've pointed the form at the googel example, where it's clear no query is being received. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, Ben -- Ben Kimball <mailto:zu...@ma...> Web Application Developer <phoneto:512.232.2006> Office of Resource Development, UT Austin <walkto:DEV1.102> |
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From: Josh S. <jo...@sm...> - 2004-06-02 00:11:31
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I certainly understand the conflict between the commercial projects and the side ones. It just appeared that there hadn't been much going on for a while, so I was wondering. I've love to be included in your chat, and in keeping up on what you guys are up to in general. You seem to be up to some great work, and bridging the gap between standards and Flash is something that MM has been ignoring. I wish they'd hire you guys. In fact, I've asked MM in a couple of beta forums to do something with DENG, but no luck there. Or hey, if you want to move to Seattle, my company needs a developer. We mostly do games for kids though. ;) -josh Claus Wahlers wrote: > josh, > my apologies.. i try to be around in this list and in the forum to > answer questions and help as much as possible. sometimes this is not > possible though, due to commercial projects i am involved in. i was > working fulltime on deng for more than two years, with almost zero > budget. you guess the rest. i gotta pay my rent. i am sure you > understand that. > a few words on the current status and the future of deng: first of all, > it's still alive, actually more alive than ever before. stefano is > actively working on the xforms module and not far from releasing a new, > 100% compliant xpath engine. i started the ugô initiative early this > year, and working on 100% compliant dom 3 implementations together with > jim cheng (who already has a working dom 2 and sax parser). this solid > and fully customizable (and downgradable) engine may form the base of a > forthcoming deng version 2. > i would like to invite you to an upcoming deng lecture/q&a session i am > planning to give on irc soon. i am going to address the things i > mentioned above in great detail (amongst other interesting things, like > explaining engine interna), allowing you to send feedback and discuss in > realtime. i am going to fix a day soon, if you have suggestions, please > let me know. > to answer your text-align question: we implemented it recently, but > later found issues with xforms input controls that we haven't had the > chance to fix yet, so we switched back to 1.0.39 in the webservice > build, and didn't release 1.0.40 yet. i have some free resources > available at the moment, so you should expect a new release in a few > days. if you are desparate, please let me know. we can probably arrange > things. > cheers, > claus. > > > Josh Santangelo wrote: > >> I'm trying to use DENG in a project, but it seems that Claus and >> others that know how it works have pretty much vanished. I've been >> unable to get any questions answered on the forums, so I thought I'd >> try here. >> >> DENG is a great piece of work, and it's a shame that it's not being >> used more widely. Right now I'm trying to bring it into the MX2004/AS2 >> world via a new-style component, and have it working fairly well (you >> cannot compile it to an F7 SWF, but you can load it into one, which >> works okay). >> >> The problem I'm having would seem pretty simple at first. I have this >> document: >> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" >> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> >> <html DEFANGED_xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> >> <head></head> >> <body> >> >> <DEFANGED_div style="text-align:right">foo</DEFANGED_div> >> >> </body> >> </html> >> >> One would expect the text to align to the right, but it does not. >> float:right doesn't work either. Does DENG not support aligning >> elements, or am doing something incorrectly? >> >> -josh >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. >> >>> From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one >> >> >> installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and >> evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 >> _______________________________________________ >> dengmx-talk mailing list >> den...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dengmx-talk >> > |
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From: Claus W. <cl...@co...> - 2004-06-02 00:03:05
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josh, my apologies.. i try to be around in this list and in the forum to answer questions and help as much as possible. sometimes this is not possible though, due to commercial projects i am involved in. i was working fulltime on deng for more than two years, with almost zero budget. you guess the rest. i gotta pay my rent. i am sure you understand that. a few words on the current status and the future of deng: first of all, it's still alive, actually more alive than ever before. stefano is actively working on the xforms module and not far from releasing a new, 100% compliant xpath engine. i started the ugô initiative early this year, and working on 100% compliant dom 3 implementations together with jim cheng (who already has a working dom 2 and sax parser). this solid and fully customizable (and downgradable) engine may form the base of a forthcoming deng version 2. i would like to invite you to an upcoming deng lecture/q&a session i am planning to give on irc soon. i am going to address the things i mentioned above in great detail (amongst other interesting things, like explaining engine interna), allowing you to send feedback and discuss in realtime. i am going to fix a day soon, if you have suggestions, please let me know. to answer your text-align question: we implemented it recently, but later found issues with xforms input controls that we haven't had the chance to fix yet, so we switched back to 1.0.39 in the webservice build, and didn't release 1.0.40 yet. i have some free resources available at the moment, so you should expect a new release in a few days. if you are desparate, please let me know. we can probably arrange things. cheers, claus. Josh Santangelo wrote: > I'm trying to use DENG in a project, but it seems that Claus and others > that know how it works have pretty much vanished. I've been unable to > get any questions answered on the forums, so I thought I'd try here. > > DENG is a great piece of work, and it's a shame that it's not being used > more widely. Right now I'm trying to bring it into the MX2004/AS2 world > via a new-style component, and have it working fairly well (you cannot > compile it to an F7 SWF, but you can load it into one, which works okay). > > The problem I'm having would seem pretty simple at first. I have this > document: > > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > <html DEFANGED_xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> > <head></head> > <body> > > <DEFANGED_div style="text-align:right">foo</DEFANGED_div> > > </body> > </html> > > One would expect the text to align to the right, but it does not. > float:right doesn't work either. Does DENG not support aligning > elements, or am doing something incorrectly? > > -josh > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. > >> From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one > > installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and > evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 > _______________________________________________ > dengmx-talk mailing list > den...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dengmx-talk > |
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From: Josh S. <jo...@sm...> - 2004-06-01 22:16:21
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Hey, good to hear someone's around. I mentioned that I hadn't gotten help in the forums because I had posted a couple other questions earlier and never got a response. http://claus.packts.net/deng/forum/search.php?search_author=endquote Any idea when the next release will be, and what will be in it? Any hope for F7 compatibility? FYI, my goal for DENG is to wrap it up as a V2 component which uses the Scrollpane for scrolling. This I already have working, mostly. The end use will be in a MM Central application that is a joint project between Smashing Ideas (the company I work for, smashingideas.com), Macromedia, and a large US media company. I will certainly contribute back my wrapper component once it's finished. thanks, -josh Stefano Debenedetti wrote: > Hello Josh, I just answered on the forums (hadn't seen it yet :) too: > > support for text-align is in cvs but has not made it into a build yet, a > new build is underway... > > Thank you for using DENG, ciao > ste > > > Josh Santangelo ha scritto: > >> I'm trying to use DENG in a project, but it seems that Claus and >> others that know how it works have pretty much vanished. I've been >> unable to get any questions answered on the forums, so I thought I'd >> try here. >> >> DENG is a great piece of work, and it's a shame that it's not being >> used more widely. Right now I'm trying to bring it into the MX2004/AS2 >> world via a new-style component, and have it working fairly well (you >> cannot compile it to an F7 SWF, but you can load it into one, which >> works okay). >> >> The problem I'm having would seem pretty simple at first. I have this >> document: >> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" >> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> >> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> >> <head></head> >> <body> >> >> <div style="text-align:right">foo</div> >> >> </body> >> </html> >> >> One would expect the text to align to the right, but it does not. >> float:right doesn't work either. Does DENG not support aligning >> elements, or am doing something incorrectly? >> >> -josh >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. >> >>> From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one >> >> >> installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and >> evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 >> _______________________________________________ >> dengmx-talk mailing list >> den...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dengmx-talk >> |
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From: Josh S. <jo...@sm...> - 2004-06-01 20:22:10
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I'm trying to use DENG in a project, but it seems that Claus and others that know how it works have pretty much vanished. I've been unable to get any questions answered on the forums, so I thought I'd try here. DENG is a great piece of work, and it's a shame that it's not being used more widely. Right now I'm trying to bring it into the MX2004/AS2 world via a new-style component, and have it working fairly well (you cannot compile it to an F7 SWF, but you can load it into one, which works okay). The problem I'm having would seem pretty simple at first. I have this document: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head></head> <body> <div style="text-align:right">foo</div> </body> </html> One would expect the text to align to the right, but it does not. float:right doesn't work either. Does DENG not support aligning elements, or am doing something incorrectly? -josh |