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From: James D. <j-d...@us...> - 2003-04-27 01:34:58
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In message <87r...@do...> on Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 12:11:50AM +0200, Steinar Bang wrote: > > One question: the refpages above list the role values "TeX" and > > "LaTeX". Will all lowercase values "tex" and "latex" also works? > > Only "tex" and "latex" work as the role values. [...] > Perhaps the reference docs should be updated here? Our documentation *always* need updating ;-) Thanks for letting us know. |
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From: Steinar B. <sb...@do...> - 2003-04-26 22:11:59
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>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb...@do...>: > Is it on by default? The refpage above doesn't say. It's on by default. (discovered through experimentation) > One question: the refpages above list the role values "TeX" and > "LaTeX". Will all lowercase values "tex" and "latex" also works? Only "tex" and "latex" work as the role values. "TeX" and "LaTeX" as the role values, as indicated by the reference pages http://db2latex.sourceforge.net/reference/rn43re61.html http://db2latex.sourceforge.net/reference/rn43re62.html does not work. Perhaps the reference docs should be updated here? |
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From: Steinar B. <sb...@do...> - 2003-04-26 11:19:44
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>>>>> James Devenish <j-d...@us...>: > Elsewhere in DB2LaTeX there is already use of @role="tex". What > makes me uncertain about it is that our imagedata handling won't > work with plain TeX, so "tex" is a bit of a misnomer. We could > easily accept either "tex" or "latex", but a decision would have to > be made about whether this was appopriate :) Hey, it's in! Kewl! :-) http://db2latex.sourceforge.net/reference/rn43re61.html http://db2latex.sourceforge.net/reference/rn43re62.html Is it on by default? The refpage above doesn't say. One question: the refpages above list the role values "TeX" and "LaTeX". Will all lowercase values "tex" and "latex" also works? Thanx! - Steinar |
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From: James D. <j-d...@us...> - 2003-04-25 11:53:14
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Hi, In message <873...@do...> on Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 09:57:09PM +0200, Steinar Bang wrote: > I was trying out db2latex for the first time today, and ran into this > problem: > http://db2latex.sourceforge.net/qanda.html#N10045 [...] > My problem is that my CVS checkout of db2latex doesn't contain a > latex subdirectory. I've just done a > cvs up -dPA > and no latex subdirectory appeared. Sorry about that. It was an oversight when we recently reconfigured our revision control system. In db2latex-0.7, some admonition figures can be found in this directory: db2latex-0.7/xsl/sample/test_article/figures We will sort this out with the next DB2LaTeX release. |
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From: Steinar B. <sb...@do...> - 2003-04-23 12:22:40
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[repost of article sent to db2latex-apps] When trying out db2latex, I ran into this problem, described in the FAQ list: http://db2latex.sourceforge.net/qanda.html#N10045 I tried the fix suggested there, but it failed because my CVS checkout of db2latex doesn't contain a latex subdirectory. I've done a cvs up -dPA and no latex subdirectory appeared. There was also something strange when I tried updating an older CVS checkout of db2latex. CVS complained about a non-existing directory. Has there been manual changes to the db2latex CVS repository, perhaps? Thanx! - Steinar |
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From: Torsten B. <br...@ph...> - 2003-04-07 19:38:27
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Halloechen! I'm sorry, I sent it to the wrong list. Tschoe, Torsten. |
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From: <br...@ph...> - 2003-04-07 19:28:57
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Halloechen!
> there's a problem with titles: Mathematics.
>
> With BibTeX, it was quite common to simply switch to math mode,
> as for example in xampl.bib:
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> @TECHREPORT{techreport-minimal,
> author = "Tom Terrific",
> title = "An {$O(n \log n / \! \log\log n)$} Sorting Algorithm",
> institution = "Fanstord University",
> year = 1988,
> }
>
> For the time being, I guess we have to restrict people to using
> whatever characters they can find in Unicode, combined with italics
> and bold, but this is hardly a satisfactory solution.
>
> Would it be at all feasible to include MathML into Bibulus XML?
Yes. You just have to add it to <formatted> and include the MathML
DTD into your DTD as an external parsed entity.
> And how difficult would it be to convert this to the various
> output formats afterwards?
Well, it's not easy. On the other hand, you can pass it verbatim to
(X)HTML and XML DocBook. Then it's not your problem anymore. ;-)
For LaTeX (or BibTeX), you have to convert it with e.g. XSLT. But
this has been done already by numerous people.
Tschoe,
Torsten.
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From: Steinar B. <sb...@do...> - 2003-03-19 21:48:12
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>>>>> James Devenish <j-d...@us...>: > Exactly my point :) Yah! I really shouldn't post to mailing lists when I'm too sleepy to read and understand the message I'm responding to. :-) But I least I posted my real life example, which is to use the role when the <imageobject> elements are otherwise indistinguishable. Ie. when they have the same @format value. > Elsewhere in DB2LaTeX there is already use of @role="tex". What > makes me uncertain about it is that our imagedata handling won't > work with plain TeX, so "tex" is a bit of a misnomer. I agree. > We could easily accept either "tex" or "latex", but a decision would > have to be made about whether this was appopriate :) How about accepting both "tex" and "latex" for the places where it's already in use, for legacy reasons, but mark it as deprecated in the docs, and only accept "latex" for the new places? |
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From: James D. <j-d...@us...> - 2003-03-19 01:26:52
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In message <87n...@do...> on Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 09:31:52PM +0100, Steinar Bang wrote: > >>>>> James Devenish <j-d...@us...>: > > > - If we are to support $use.role.for.mediaobject and > > $preferred.mediaobject.role, we would have to choose a role (such > > as the existing 'html' or 'fo') that corresponds to DB2LaTeX/LaTeX. > > Why not use a new role value? "tex"? Or "latex"? Then you could add > a new <imageobject> for use by DB2LaTeX. Exactly my point :) Elsewhere in DB2LaTeX there is already use of @role="tex". What makes me uncertain about it is that our imagedata handling won't work with plain TeX, so "tex" is a bit of a misnomer. We could easily accept either "tex" or "latex", but a decision would have to be made about whether this was appopriate :) |
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From: Steinar B. <sb...@do...> - 2003-03-18 20:41:39
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>>>>> James Devenish <j-d...@us...>: > - If we are to support $use.role.for.mediaobject and > $preferred.mediaobject.role, we would have to choose a role (such > as the existing 'html' or 'fo') that corresponds to DB2LaTeX/LaTeX. Why not use a new role value? "tex"? Or "latex"? Then you could add a new <imageobject> for use by DB2LaTeX. The new use of role was done without any changes to the DTD, so the value of role is still defined to be #CDATA. Here's an example of how I currently use this approach: <mediaobject> <imageobject role="html"> <imagedata fileref="images/press_enter.png" format="PNG"/> </imageobject> <imageobject role="fo"> <imagedata fileref="images/press_enter.png" format="PNG" depth="5cm" scalefit="1"/> </imageobject> </mediaobject> If I were to use this with DB2LaTeX, as well as the current HTML and XSL:FO, I would add an extra <imageobject>, with scaling and role "latex", ie.: <mediaobject> <imageobject role="html"> <imagedata fileref="images/press_enter.png" format="PNG"/> </imageobject> <imageobject role="fo"> <imagedata fileref="images/press_enter.png" format="PNG" depth="5cm" scalefit="1"/> </imageobject> <imageobject role="latex"> <imagedata fileref="images/press_enter.png" format="PNG" depth="5cm" scalefit="1"/> </imageobject> </mediaobject> |
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From: James D. <j-d...@us...> - 2003-03-18 09:38:01
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Hi,
In message <871...@do...>
on Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:44:48PM +0100, Steinar Bang wrote:
> >From v1.60.1, the DocBook XSL style sheets started using the role
> attribute to select which <mediaobject> alternative to select for a
> given result format.
>
> This makes it possible to eg. pick a different (higher resolution, or
> scaled) PNG for XSL:FO, than for HTML.
There has also been some off-list correspondence about this. Some
thoughts of mine:
- Mediaobjects can contain imageobjects. In the case that imageobjects
are present, DB2LaTeX is unable to choose the correct file formats
because it does not know what typesetter you are going to use.
- If we are to support $use.role.for.mediaobject and
$preferred.mediaobject.role, we would have to choose a role (such
as the existing 'html' or 'fo') that corresponds to DB2LaTeX/LaTeX.
There are at least three places where the correct image data format can
be chosen:
- at the level of mediaobjects (using $preferred.mediaobject.role).
- at the level of imagedata's @format attribute.
- at the level of "filename extensions" in imagedata's @fileref
attributed (of course, this should not really be the way it is
done, though existing DocBook stylesheets sometimes let authors
rely on this).
Personally, I think any of these requires either:
- user intervention (e.g. that the user uses a driver file to define the
allowed imagedata @formats).
- election of a mediaobject role that is devoted to LaTeX/DB2LaTeX and
to have users OMIT the filename extension (e.g. ".eps") so that LaTeX
picks up the default file type. LaTeX users will know that LaTeX and
pdfLaTeX can choose the correct image formats (e.g. choose between
"fig2.eps", "fig2.eps", "fig2.png") if the author uses
\includegraphics{fig} (i.e. leaves off the extension).
Thoughts?
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From: Steinar B. <sb...@do...> - 2003-03-17 20:45:08
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From v1.60.1, the DocBook XSL style sheets started using the role attribute to select which <mediaobject> alternative to select for a given result format. This makes it possible to eg. pick a different (higher resolution, or scaled) PNG for XSL:FO, than for HTML. I think it would be useful if db2latex followed this practice. See these links for more info: http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/html/use.role.for.mediaobject.html http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/doc/common/common.html Thanx! - Steinar |
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From: ben <nic...@li...> - 2003-01-15 19:03:59
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Hi! Are these mailing lists completely dead? What's new about DB2LaTeX? Bye, BG |
