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From: <st...@eb...> - 2012-08-20 19:56:31
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Hi there, I'd be interested in using an implementation of the spherical grid topology -- could anyone please point me where to start? thanks a lot, cheers ben |
From: kusum b. <kku...@gm...> - 2011-09-13 01:15:21
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hello sir I am kusum bharti, using ESOM tool.please tell me how to set path for esom means upto which folder and how to run it . Please respnse me as soon as possible. With Regards kusum bharti |
From: Christian S. <st...@Ma...> - 2006-06-22 15:53:20
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Hi Mat, did you succesfully build the esom-tools now? If not, maybe you did not use maven 1.0.2. I downloaded the source.tar.gz as well as a fresh cvs version. In both cases 'maven jar install' downloaded colt-1.2.0.5.jar automatically from [1]. You can of course get that jar from there manually. The trouble with the cvs might have been caused by a sourceforge-wide change with the cvs servers. The address changed from cvs.sourceforge.net to databionic-esom.cvs.sourceforge.net. So you have to use the line: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@da...:/cvsroot/databionic-esom co -P modulename to get the sources. Replace modulename with 'src' for the esom-tools and with 'colt' for our colt version. I updated [2] accordingly. I recommend to use the cvs version of the esom-tools. The first build with maven will download all dependencies. After that you can import the project into eclipse. regards Christian [1] http://databionic-esom.sf.net//maven/databionics/jars/colt-1.2.0.5.jar [2] http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/cvs-usage.html > I am trying to setup the esom system in eclipse, we are hoping to extend > the platform. I am having trouble locating some of the cern classes, for > example: > > cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions > cern.colt.function.VectorVectorFunction > cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions > > not sure if that is all of them, > > I tried to get the CVS but ran into problems, so I downloaded the src > and imported the project, I think that after I hunt down these last > dependencies things should start working. > > Thanks for your help, > > Mat Merkow > > This electronic message transmission is a PRIVATE communication which > contains > information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is > intended > to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not > the > intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, > distribution > or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please notify > the > sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, or notify us by > telephone (877-633-2436, ext. 0), and then delete it from your system. > > |
From: <fa...@my...> - 2006-06-19 20:13:26
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> The point is to replace all log.debug(".."); with > if(log.isDebugEnabled())log.debug("..");. That is because when > log.debug("foo" + intValue + "bar" + object.getValue()); is called, the > parameter is concatenated before the logger has a chance to decide wether > it is needed or not and constructing this string may be arbitrarily > complex. I would vote for responsibility of the developer to put this "if" condition in for cases where the creation of the string is really complex. other than that log4j is designed to have minimal overhead if you call log.debug with the log level above. this keeps the code cleaner. I think log.debug within very frequently executed loops should be removed after debugging and log.info statements should be kept outside of such loops. > I ran ten trainings of hepta.lrn before and ten after the changes with > standard settings and under the same conditions. With a mean of around 35 > seconds there was a speedup of around 0,5 seconds afterwards. Of course > also startup, rendering and anything else will profit. not all that significant, is it? what about std of speedup? bye fabian |
From: Christian S. <st...@Ma...> - 2006-06-19 12:41:41
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Hi everyone, the first version of this message was catched by the fourceforge spamfilter, because the original title 'esom news' sounded to much like 'some stock news' :-) I hope this one will reach you. 1) logging 2) data safety 3) floodfill 1) logging ----------- I'm preparing a large, but trivial commit and I want to avoid any cvs collisions. I'd therefore like to know who of you is working on esom-code at the moment to avoid cvs collisions. The point is to replace all log.debug(".."); with if(log.isDebugEnabled())log.debug("..");. That is because when log.debug("foo" + intValue + "bar" + object.getValue()); is called, the parameter is concatenated before the logger has a chance to decide wether it is needed or not and constructing this string may be arbitrarily complex. I ran ten trainings of hepta.lrn before and ten after the changes with standard settings and under the same conditions. With a mean of around 35 seconds there was a speedup of around 0,5 seconds afterwards. Of course also startup, rendering and anything else will profit. I'm considering to apply the same to all log levels as one might want to switch logging off, when e.g. processing larger batch-jobs. Are there any objections to this? 2) data safety --------------- I extended JFileChooser to check for existing files. The User is asked for confirmation now if he is about to overwrite a file. This might not apply to the slideshow and does definitely not apply for training, which will still overwrite existing files. I have no reason to believe, that it won't work under windows or mac os, but I did not check. For Training there has to be thought of something. 3) floodfill ------------- I Fixed the add and substract behaviour for floodfill. It's now possible to classify only the walls of a map with a few simple clicks. E.g. for hepta, do the following: - train a wts - change to classmask tab - activate floodfill, set treshold to one and click on map. that will result in the whole map being covered by one class. - set treshold to 0.4 and select the class resulting from the previous step in the table. - hold shift while clicking once in each of the seven clusters. - now only the walls are classified regards, Christian |
From: <noe...@Ma...> - 2006-05-30 08:12:52
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> I also have currently problems checking out from sourceforge > CVS, does it work for anyone? I don`t know if there was a problem at that time. But https://sourceforge.net/docs/A04/ is a useful site, where you can look at the status of every sourceforge server and there is often a problem with the cvs server mentioned. bye mario > > bye > fabian > > > Merkow, Mathew wrote: > >>I am using version 1.0.3 and found 1.2.0 on the net, do you know where I >>can find colt-1.2.0.5.jar? Thanks for the help. >> >>Mat >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dat...@li... >>[mailto:dat...@li...] On Behalf Of >>noe...@Ma... >>Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:27 AM >>To: dat...@li... >>Subject: Re: [Databionic-esom-devel] trying to setup esom in eclipse, >>missing classes in CERN lib >> >> >>Hi, >> >> >> >>>I am trying to setup the esom system in eclipse, we are hoping to >>>extend the platform. I am having trouble locating some of the cern >>>classes, for >>>example: >>> >>>cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions cern.colt.function.VectorVectorFunction >>>cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions >>> >>> >> >>colt-1.2.0.5.jar works in my eclipse project. I remember that I had the >>same problem with an older colt version. >> >> >> >> >>>not sure if that is all of them, >>> >>>I tried to get the CVS but ran into problems, so I downloaded the src >>>and imported the project, I think that after I hunt down these last >>>dependencies things should start working. >>> >>> >> >>Can you describe your problem with the cvs version? >> >>bye >>mario >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! >>Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications >>in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more >>http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=107521&bid=248729&dat=121642 >>_______________________________________________ >>Databionic-esom-devel mailing list >>Dat...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel >> >>This electronic message transmission is a PRIVATE communication which >> contains >>information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is >> intended >>to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not >> the >>intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, >> distribution >>or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please notify >> the >>sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, or notify us >> by >>telephone (877-633-2436, ext. 0), and then delete it from your system. >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! >>Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications >> in >>the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more >>http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid7521&bid$8729&dat1642 >>_______________________________________________ >>Databionic-esom-devel mailing list >>Dat...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! > Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in > the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=107521&bid=248729&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Databionic-esom-devel mailing list > Dat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel > |
From: <fa...@my...> - 2006-05-26 01:15:07
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Mathew, the best way to get started is to follow the steps 1-5 from the developer manual: http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/devel.html be sure to use maven 1.0.2 not the newer 2.x versions. this will automatically download all required dependencies, including the patched colt jar from our own maven repository at http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/maven/databionics/jars/ then you should be able to import everything into eclipse. once you have gotten as far as you already seem, you might just want to download the colt jar manually, though. the source code for the adapted colt version can only be obtained through CVS by following the instructions on http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/cvs-usage.html but replacing the module name "src" with "colt". this is not documented, as I was never too comfortable with having a forked colt, but colt development is slow and our changes were never integrated. I also have currently problems checking out from sourceforge CVS, does it work for anyone? bye fabian Merkow, Mathew wrote: >I am using version 1.0.3 and found 1.2.0 on the net, do you know where I >can find colt-1.2.0.5.jar? Thanks for the help. > >Mat > >-----Original Message----- >From: dat...@li... >[mailto:dat...@li...] On Behalf Of >noe...@Ma... >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:27 AM >To: dat...@li... >Subject: Re: [Databionic-esom-devel] trying to setup esom in eclipse, >missing classes in CERN lib > > >Hi, > > > >>I am trying to setup the esom system in eclipse, we are hoping to >>extend the platform. I am having trouble locating some of the cern >>classes, for >>example: >> >>cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions cern.colt.function.VectorVectorFunction >>cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions >> >> > >colt-1.2.0.5.jar works in my eclipse project. I remember that I had the >same problem with an older colt version. > > > > >>not sure if that is all of them, >> >>I tried to get the CVS but ran into problems, so I downloaded the src >>and imported the project, I think that after I hunt down these last >>dependencies things should start working. >> >> > >Can you describe your problem with the cvs version? > >bye >mario > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! >Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications >in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=107521&bid=248729&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >Databionic-esom-devel mailing list >Dat...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel > >This electronic message transmission is a PRIVATE communication which contains >information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended >to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the >intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution >or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please notify the >sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, or notify us by >telephone (877-633-2436, ext. 0), and then delete it from your system. > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! >Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in >the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid7521&bid$8729&dat1642 >_______________________________________________ >Databionic-esom-devel mailing list >Dat...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel > > > > |
From: Merkow, M. <Mat...@ar...> - 2006-05-25 21:10:15
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I am using version 1.0.3 and found 1.2.0 on the net, do you know where I can find colt-1.2.0.5.jar? Thanks for the help. Mat -----Original Message----- From: dat...@li... [mailto:dat...@li...] On Behalf Of noe...@Ma... Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:27 AM To: dat...@li... Subject: Re: [Databionic-esom-devel] trying to setup esom in eclipse, missing classes in CERN lib Hi, > I am trying to setup the esom system in eclipse, we are hoping to=20 > extend the platform. I am having trouble locating some of the cern=20 > classes, for > example: > > cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions cern.colt.function.VectorVectorFunction > cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions colt-1.2.0.5.jar works in my eclipse project. I remember that I had the same problem with an older colt version. > not sure if that is all of them, > > I tried to get the CVS but ran into problems, so I downloaded the src=20 > and imported the project, I think that after I hunt down these last=20 > dependencies things should start working. Can you describe your problem with the cvs version? bye mario ------------------------------------------------------- All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D107521&bid=3D248729&dat=3D= 121642 _______________________________________________ Databionic-esom-devel mailing list Dat...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel This electronic message transmission is a PRIVATE communication which = contains information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is = intended=20 to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are = not the=20 intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, = distribution=20 or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please notify = the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, or notify us = by telephone (877-633-2436, ext. 0), and then delete it from your system. |
From: <noe...@Ma...> - 2006-05-25 17:27:22
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Hi, > I am trying to setup the esom system in eclipse, we are hoping to extend > the platform. I am having trouble locating some of the cern classes, for > example: > > cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions > cern.colt.function.VectorVectorFunction > cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions colt-1.2.0.5.jar works in my eclipse project. I remember that I had the same problem with an older colt version. > not sure if that is all of them, > > I tried to get the CVS but ran into problems, so I downloaded the src > and imported the project, I think that after I hunt down these last > dependencies things should start working. Can you describe your problem with the cvs version? bye mario |
From: Merkow, M. <Mat...@ar...> - 2006-05-25 17:07:40
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I am trying to setup the esom system in eclipse, we are hoping to extend the platform. I am having trouble locating some of the cern classes, for example: =20 cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions cern.colt.function.VectorVectorFunction cern.jet.math.VectorFunctions =20 not sure if that is all of them, =20 I tried to get the CVS but ran into problems, so I downloaded the src and imported the project, I think that after I hunt down these last dependencies things should start working. =20 Thanks for your help, =20 Mat Merkow This electronic message transmission is a PRIVATE communication which = contains information which may be confidential or privileged. The information is = intended=20 to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are = not the=20 intended recipient, please be aware that any disclosure, copying, = distribution=20 or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please notify = the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, or notify us = by telephone (877-633-2436, ext. 0), and then delete it from your system. |
From: <fa...@in...> - 2006-02-18 11:18:06
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released. enjoy. |
From: <fa...@in...> - 2006-02-13 17:46:37
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released. for news see website. please test, as this will become 1.0 later this week if no major complaints come in. bye fabian |
From: <fa...@in...> - 2006-01-31 08:33:30
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Hi, we fixed a severe bug in the ESOM tools. previous releases did not read in data files with numbers in scientific notation using small "e"s to indicate the exponent, e.g. 4.678342e02 was read as 4.6 instead of 467.342. this went unnoticed so far, because all our files have capitol E's. sorry about that. bye fabian |
From:
<fa...@in...> - 2005-10-25 19:41:08
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see http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/changes-report.html |
From:
<fa...@in...> - 2005-06-23 15:56:07
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hi, to check katerina's problems i - trained ESOM with 4gauss.lrn - created a class mask - loaded 2ellipses.lrn - called project - called classify upon closing the dialog i get: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException at databionics.io.BaseFile.getFilename(BaseFile.java:487) at databionics.esom.tool.projection.ClassifyCallback.finished(ClassifyCallback.java:81) at databionics.gui.RunDialog.actionPerformed(RunDialog.java:852) at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1849) this seems to be because the manually created classmask is not saved automatically, before classify is executed. even worse: if i save it manually it doesn't work either. the info tab still does not list the filename and i get the same bug. only if i first save the class mask and then load it again, i get the desired result. bye fabian |
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<fa...@in...> - 2005-06-04 13:27:25
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hi the data tab displays the data vectors, the classification from *.cls files and the names from *.names files. in many cases only part of this information is interesting, to see the names scrolling is often neccessary. how about thee checkboxes in the data tab toolbar that togle the display of {data,cls,names}? the key column should always be displayed. in addition the cls column could be rendered as colored rectangles as in the classes tab. does anyone want to do it? bye fabian |
From: Christian S. <st...@Ma...> - 2005-05-19 23:48:40
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Hello all, now also the semiautomated floodfill is working. @Fabien: You will find the static functions floodFill(...) and semiAutomatedFloodFill(...) in esom/src/java/databionics/esom/tool/classmask/ClassmaskCreatorPanel.java. They are nearly unchanged, so I hope you will be able to experiment with the code. If not, don't hesitate to ask for help or for more checkboxes. regards Christian Fabian M=F6rchen said: > cool! just tested on hepta and it seems to work. > > bye > fabian > > Christian Stamm wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I added the simple flood fill algorithm to the Classmask Tool. Semi-au= to >> will follow shortly. Thanks to Fabien Moutarde for the contribution. >> >> Instructions: >> 1. load a map >> 2. click the Classmask tab >> 3. check 'Floodfill' >> 4. click onto map >> >> the treshold maybe adjusted by a slider. (0:0.1:1) >> hint: classes can be removed by right-clicking into the table. >> this will work on any background. (i.e. the actually displayed one) >> >> Please give this a test. >> >> regards Christian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes >> Want to be the first software developer in space? >> Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick >> _______________________________________________ >> Databionic-esom-devel mailing list >> Dat...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7393&alloc_id=3D16281&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Databionic-esom-devel mailing list > Dat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel > |
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<fa...@in...> - 2005-05-13 12:13:49
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cool! just tested on hepta and it seems to work. bye fabian Christian Stamm wrote: > Hello all, > > I added the simple flood fill algorithm to the Classmask Tool. Semi-auto > will follow shortly. Thanks to Fabien Moutarde for the contribution. > > Instructions: > 1. load a map > 2. click the Classmask tab > 3. check 'Floodfill' > 4. click onto map > > the treshold maybe adjusted by a slider. (0:0.1:1) > hint: classes can be removed by right-clicking into the table. > this will work on any background. (i.e. the actually displayed one) > > Please give this a test. > > regards Christian > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7393&alloc_id=16281&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Databionic-esom-devel mailing list > Dat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel |
From: Christian S. <st...@Ma...> - 2005-05-12 13:31:33
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Hello all, I added the simple flood fill algorithm to the Classmask Tool. Semi-auto will follow shortly. Thanks to Fabien Moutarde for the contribution. Instructions: 1. load a map 2. click the Classmask tab 3. check 'Floodfill' 4. click onto map the treshold maybe adjusted by a slider. (0:0.1:1) hint: classes can be removed by right-clicking into the table. this will work on any background. (i.e. the actually displayed one) Please give this a test. regards Christian |
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<fa...@in...> - 2005-05-11 14:05:28
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hi i added a quick and not so dirty hack for some options to be placed in esom.conf that can turn off the various bottom tabs. this intended for the upcoming musicminer. bye fabian |
From: Niko E. <ne...@Ma...> - 2005-05-10 22:26:38
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Fabian M=F6rchen wrote: > I think Niko knows best how to open a dev branch. >=20 > @niko: if you are missing the rights, let me know. or you can just tell > me how to do it. What exactly do you mean by development branch. There are multiple ways of doing it. If you just wan't some sort 'stable' tag thas quite easy. If you need two branches that can both be developed in parellel I have read it up. Branching is easyly done merging not so I have to test this on my system before messing with the sourceforge CVS. (I know its a bit offtopic, but maybe the list members have a preference on this.) --=20 Niko Efthymiou Tel: 06421/898565 Geschw.-Scholl-Str.11a www: www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~nefthy 35039 Marburg pgp-key: 0xE6BF2487 @ www.keyserver.net |
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<fa...@in...> - 2005-05-10 20:33:06
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I think Niko knows best how to open a dev branch. @niko: if you are missing the rights, let me know. or you can just tell me how to do it. bye fabian Christian Stamm wrote: > Hello Fabien, > > I'll try to make a GUI-Tool out of it till the weekend. Unfortunately the > Tools are in the middle of some sort of refactoring at the moment (see > also mail 'No Subject' [sic!] from this list), which makes this a little > tricky. > > We'll need a development branch in cvs before starting to fix this. As I > have not reached the peak in cvs' learning curve yet, any hint on this is > appreciated. > > regards > Christian Stamm > > > Fabien Moutarde said: > >>Hello. >> >>First of all, it seems that U*-matrix are not yet implemented in the >>current version >>of the package, so I can only make a version working on U-matrix... >> >>Also, another problem is that the current version of U*F clustering is >>still not *fully* >>automated: it is rather conceived as an interactive system where you >>display >>the U*-matrix (or U-matrix), and then click with the mouse on one point >>"inside" >>each of what "looks to be a separate region on the map" (with even >>sometimes >> the need for manual tuning of the threshold parameter, when the >>semi-automated >>version chooses too big a threshold so that 2 "would-be regions" get >>flooded together >>as only one region). >> >>Anyway, I nevertheless worked out a version fitted to the Cluster.java >>skeleton >>you sent me, but it is not very convenient : >> one has to run the program several times to iteratively add segmented >>regions into the classmask file ; also, the (x,y) starting point of >>region-growing has >> to be set manually (through options -x and -y), which is *definitely* >>NOT convenient ; >>the category ID also has to be specified this way (with the -g option), >>but is less a hassle >>than for x,y. >> >>The ideal would thus be if there was some way to integrate the >>segmentation >>tool in the GUI displaying the U-matrix (and U*-matrix when you shall have >>added it), so that clicking on the matrix display is possible, as well >>as having >> some buttons (such as "new category", "erase category", ...), plus a >>slider >>and textfield (for cases when manual tuning of threshold has to be >>done)... >> >>Also, I am currently doing some experiments on an approach for automating >> the choice of starting points (and when to stop trying to grow new >>regions) which >>could allow a fully automated segmentation of the U*-matrix (or >>U-matrix), that >>would be more adapted to your Cluster.java skeleton. But it is still too >>preliminary, >>and not really operational... >> >> >>Regards, >> >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>Fabien MOUTARDE >>Ecole Nationale Superieure des Mines de Paris (ENSMP) >>60 Bd Saint-Michel, 75272 PARIS Cedex 06, FRANCE >>Tel : 33 - (0) 1.40.51.92.92 Fax : 33 - (0) 1.40.51.93.01 >>E-mail : Fab...@en... Web : http://www.ensmp.fr/~moutarde >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >>Fabian Mörchen wrote: >> >> >>>Dear Fabien Moutarde, >>> >>>i have implemented an interface for automatic clustering algorithms in >>>the ESOM tools to aid your plans of implementing U*F. >>> >>>as a start you should check out the latest sources from sourceforge >>>[1] and follow the description for compiling [2]. >>> >>>the file src/java/databionics/esom/Cluster.java is a simple >>>demonstration for clustering the neurons of a trained ESOM. the >>>weights (*.wts) and U-Matrix and P-Matrix (both *.umx) as well as the >>>training data (*.lrn) are loaded according to the command line >>>parameters given. the clustering simply creates four clusters >>>according to the quadrants of the coordinates on the map. this way you >>>can already see how to access the map with spatial coordinates. >>> >>>the skript to start the program is called esomclust[.bat], "esomclust >>>-h" will list the syntax. the saved class mask (*.cls with one entry >>>per neuron) can be loaded from within the GUI and displayed on top of >>>the ESOM. later we will provide a mechanism to call the cluster tool >>>via the menu and have the result automatically loaded. >>> >>>you can plug in your algorithm in the Cluster.java file, if you wish. >>>later we can put it in a different class and offer several algorithms >>>from within the Cluster class. >>> >>>if you have any problems getting this to work or further questions on >>>how to access certain data structres needed in your algorithm, don't >>>hesitate to ask. the developer mailing [3] list would be a good place >>>for this, since your questions and my (of my student's) answers will >>>be available to future contributors as well. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Fabian Mörchen >>> >>>[1] http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/cvs-usage.html >>>[2] http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/devel.html >>>[3] http://databionic-esom.sourceforge.net/mail-lists.html >> >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes > Want to be the first software developer in space? > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ids93&alloc_id281&opÌk > _______________________________________________ > Databionic-esom-devel mailing list > Dat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/databionic-esom-devel |