Re: [CZT-Devel] Building from CZT snapshot

[Tim M. <tm...@un...>]

On 10/04/13 03:18, Anthony Hall wrote:
> That is an interesting observation! I am reading myself online now that
> JUnit does run tests in an arbitrary order.. I did have the same
> assumption as you.
>
I knew that junit reserved the right to run tests in any order, but I 
did not realise it would change from run to run. Very strange. I can see 
the value in have random sequences: if you have independent tests, they 
should run in any order, so trying different sequences each time give 
you different tests; but one would think that should be an option you 
have to turn *on*, rather than off. That makes it incredibly hard to 
replicate when tests fail.

> Bizarre, isn’t it? I particularly like the doctrinaire ignorance of “of
> course your tests should be totally independent” – what world do these
> people live in?
>
Yes, a rule of thumb that is a worthwhile goal, but some people are too 
dogmatic about it -- the Junit authors especially.

TestNG supports test dependencies well. I also recall reading a while 
ago that someone had contributed something to Junit to do this, mainly 
to stop tests running if other tests has failed to prevent cascading 
failures. I don't have the details handy.

It's good to see some activity on this mailing list! And that a lot of 
work is still happening on the project :)

Cheers,
Tim