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From: David B. <dav...@vi...> - 2007-01-04 01:10:20
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On Jan 3, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Jan Lessner wrote: > Thanks for your good wishes. I must admit that the CUBA FAQ is not > up to date concerning OpenEJB. The project seems to have evolved a > lot in the last year. Congratulations. Thanks! I just want to gently note though the "full EJB standard in every environment" statement was never right. The pluggable container concept and ability to declare only the ones you want has been in there since the project was created. The pluggable server service concept is newer. In 0.9.2 and before you got no server services in any embedded mode (in-vm calls only) and all server services in standalone mode. And we've certainly added more server services as time goes by. > Well, I'd still like to have a reference to OpenEJB in the FAQ as > this is definitely one of the most asked questions which needs a > quick answer. I'll come back to you with a suggestion how to change > the text in the next days. That's fine with us, we like being referenced :) I think a nice edge that CUBA has is that it's *not* EJB. App developers are not tied to that style of thinking and have a much smaller world to learn to get basic remote and webservices applications up and running. And even though EJB3 allows for an equally small app development approach it also offers far more complicated concepts. There's nothing to stop a simple app from becoming an old fashion complex EJB app as it grows. There is no "wall" you hit or warning when you start tapping into the more complex aspects of EJB. Course that isn't a statement about OpenEJB specifically, more about EJB in general. But that seems to be the kind of vibe you're going for in the project -- at least my impression of it. > Regards and all the best, Same to you! -David > Jan > > > > David Blevins wrote: > >> Hey Guys, CUBA looks like a pretty cool project. Very nice. >> >> I have one small favor to ask, can you delete or change this line >> of text in your FAQ? >> >> "OpenEJB aims at providing the full EJB standard in every >> environment." >> >> We're definitely very proud that we can support as much or as >> little of the EJB standard as you need in your particular >> environment (embedded; tomcat, junit, plain app; standalone >> "server" mode; etc. etc.). >> >> Here's a couple links if you want to verify: >> >> See the "Isolating component subsets" section on this page. >> http://www.theserverside.com/tt/articles/article.tss? >> l=ContainerDrivenTestingSeriesP3 >> >> Or this page. >> http://incubator.apache.org/openejb/containers.html >> >> Essentially all containers in OpenEJB are pluggable and can be >> just as easily unplugged removing the component models they >> support. Same with the "server" front ends that we have; ejbd, >> ejbd over http, ejbd over servlet, corba, xfire, axis, etc. So >> for any environment you pick the component models you want and >> the distribution mechanisms you want and you're good to go. >> >> Anyway, good stuff. It's great to see people innovating in this >> space. >> >> Best of luck! >> >> -David >> > |
From: Jan L. <jle...@gm...> - 2007-01-03 23:34:17
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David, Thanks for your good wishes. I must admit that the CUBA FAQ is not up to date concerning OpenEJB. The project seems to have evolved a lot in the last year. Congratulations. Well, I'd still like to have a reference to OpenEJB in the FAQ as this is definitely one of the most asked questions which needs a quick answer. I'll come back to you with a suggestion how to change the text in the next days. Regards and all the best, Jan David Blevins wrote: >Hey Guys, CUBA looks like a pretty cool project. Very nice. > >I have one small favor to ask, can you delete or change this line of >text in your FAQ? > > "OpenEJB aims at providing the full EJB standard in every >environment." > >We're definitely very proud that we can support as much or as little >of the EJB standard as you need in your particular environment >(embedded; tomcat, junit, plain app; standalone "server" mode; etc. >etc.). > >Here's a couple links if you want to verify: > > See the "Isolating component subsets" section on this page. > http://www.theserverside.com/tt/articles/article.tss? >l=ContainerDrivenTestingSeriesP3 > > Or this page. > http://incubator.apache.org/openejb/containers.html > >Essentially all containers in OpenEJB are pluggable and can be just >as easily unplugged removing the component models they support. Same >with the "server" front ends that we have; ejbd, ejbd over http, ejbd >over servlet, corba, xfire, axis, etc. So for any environment you >pick the component models you want and the distribution mechanisms >you want and you're good to go. > >Anyway, good stuff. It's great to see people innovating in this space. > >Best of luck! > >-David > > |
From: David B. <dav...@vi...> - 2007-01-02 23:08:38
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Hey Guys, CUBA looks like a pretty cool project. Very nice. I have one small favor to ask, can you delete or change this line of text in your FAQ? "OpenEJB aims at providing the full EJB standard in every environment." We're definitely very proud that we can support as much or as little of the EJB standard as you need in your particular environment (embedded; tomcat, junit, plain app; standalone "server" mode; etc. etc.). Here's a couple links if you want to verify: See the "Isolating component subsets" section on this page. http://www.theserverside.com/tt/articles/article.tss? l=ContainerDrivenTestingSeriesP3 Or this page. http://incubator.apache.org/openejb/containers.html Essentially all containers in OpenEJB are pluggable and can be just as easily unplugged removing the component models they support. Same with the "server" front ends that we have; ejbd, ejbd over http, ejbd over servlet, corba, xfire, axis, etc. So for any environment you pick the component models you want and the distribution mechanisms you want and you're good to go. Anyway, good stuff. It's great to see people innovating in this space. Best of luck! -David |