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[Ctm-devel] other projects similar to ctm

[Bryan M. <bmu...@gm...>]

CTMers,

Somehow I've recently discovered a few other projects similar to what
we are planning.  Most are open source even.  We should definitely
take a look at what they've got, see if we can leverage it, or if
maybe we should abandon this and just work with them.  Here's what
I've found:

Open Source:
http://codewurks.com/scoutTrak/
http://rkirkpat.net/software/ (the project under "Database
Applications", not an active project?)
http://www.jaynorth.net/?view=3Dscouttracker

Free:
https://www.scout-master.com/Index.aspx (crappy UI, but kind of what
we are planning, I think.  It's just some scouting parents, so we
could probably talk them into open sourcing it, but it's all asp :-( )

I haven't had much chance to really dive into any of these yet, but I
think we should take a serious look at them.  Maybe we could divide up
who is going to investigate each one?

Bryan

P.S.  Nolan, are you on this mailing list yet?  You should be.

P.P.S.  By the way, I got most of these from:

http://www.meritbadge.com/mblinks.htm

Once we have something working, we should totally get it ScoutNet Certified=
.

[Ctm-devel] Re: other projects similar to ctm

[Bryan M. <bmu...@gm...>]

OK, I spent some time this evening trying out the last open source one
in my list, http://www.jaynorth.net/?view=3Dscouttracker.  His code is
currently broken, it starts off SELECTing FROM a table in the database
that his set-up scripts didn't create.  I commented out that part and
now it just won't let me login.  I'm not too good at debugging this
stuff, but I think I did everything in the setup right.  I've joined
his mailing list and emailed my concerns.

Anyway, the point of this email is, if you feel like trying one of
these out, start with one of the other two (though it still is fun to
look at his tables and php to see how he's organized stuff).

Good night,

Bryan

P.S.  If you want see it I've got it at http://ctm.homelinux.org/scout_trac=
ker

On 5/1/05, Bryan Murdock <bmu...@gm...> wrote:
> CTMers,
>=20
> Somehow I've recently discovered a few other projects similar to what
> we are planning.  Most are open source even.  We should definitely
> take a look at what they've got, see if we can leverage it, or if
> maybe we should abandon this and just work with them.  Here's what
> I've found:
>=20
> Open Source:
> http://codewurks.com/scoutTrak/
> http://rkirkpat.net/software/ (the project under "Database
> Applications", not an active project?)
> http://www.jaynorth.net/?view=3Dscouttracker
>=20
> Free:
> https://www.scout-master.com/Index.aspx (crappy UI, but kind of what
> we are planning, I think.  It's just some scouting parents, so we
> could probably talk them into open sourcing it, but it's all asp :-( )
>=20
> I haven't had much chance to really dive into any of these yet, but I
> think we should take a serious look at them.  Maybe we could divide up
> who is going to investigate each one?
>=20
> Bryan
>=20
> P.S.  Nolan, are you on this mailing list yet?  You should be.
>=20
> P.P.S.  By the way, I got most of these from:
>=20
> http://www.meritbadge.com/mblinks.htm
>=20
> Once we have something working, we should totally get it ScoutNet Certifi=
ed.
>

[Ctm-devel] Fwd: other projects similar to ctm

[Bryan M. <bmu...@gm...>]

Second try to send this message.  Apparently sourceforge lost it...

Replying to my own post again, I've taken a quick look at all three
Open Source ones, sort of.  Two of them, scoutTrak and scout_tracker
are php/mysql apps.  They are pretty simple and straightforward and
pretty rough around the edges.  Might be something I could learn from
them, but probably nothing new or exciting for Mike there.

The last one, EasyScout, is interesting.  It was written by a BYU
professor of Information Systems.  Apparently he had it running on a
public server that any scout troop could get an account on and track
their troop there.  Kind of like what we are thinking of eventually
doing.  I don't know if he charged or not, or why he quit, but his
code is GPL and some other scoutmaster in Colorado still has it
available to download.

The other thing is it's all Java servlets.  I know nothing about
these, other than, I can't run it on my apache/php setup.  I spent a
lot of time (probably 8 hours total) getting Tomcat set up, figuring
out how to compile EasyScout, and then how to run it, and I've finally
gotten to a point where I can log in (and this was kinda fun actually,
up to this point).  Now it consistently gives me the dreaded
nullPointerException whenever I try and do anything.  I've emailed the
dude in Colorado to see if he can help me out, but haven't had a
chance to try his latest suggestions.  The basic problem seems to be
the EasyScout java code being a couple years old and no longer
supported by the latest jdk and/or Tomcat.

Anyway, I guess my final conclusion is, there is still a great
opportunity for us to contribute in this area.  Who knows, maybe the
guys that worked on these other projects would be able to help us out.
 Oh, and the java solution is way, way too complicated to set up and
maintain.  I'm glad we all like php :-)

Bryan