Re: [csjava-developer] TheButtonMatrix comments

[Toby D. <tj...@sf...>]

Hi Daryl,

Actually, I've check it in Windows XP, Linux, and Mac OS X (i.e. Unix), and
they each show framing problems. I don't always check them on all three, but
in this case I did.

Even the most recent versions show the same sort of problem. When I run the
test1(), test2(), test3() methods of the ButtonTest class, there is still
overlap at the bottom of the image.

Toby


On 5/20/05 10:23 AM, "Daryl Van Humbeck" <dva...@sf...> wrote:

> Unfortunately, I didn't see what you saw.
> 
> Another problem I have is I only have one platform to test things on
> (Windows 98SE), whereas you're probably using Windows XP.
> 
> So, I've looked at my code and tried to figure out what might cause the
> problems you mention, and discovered that I'm not packing the window and
> then refitting it.
> I added that code and think it solves some problems.
> 
> I haven't done anything about the ragged buttons yet, but I'll get to
> that soon. Maybe I can use a different Layout manager...
> 
> Please update and test again and see if that solves those problems.
> 
> I do agree that the buttons take up space and a menu would probably do
> better.
> Maybe some sort of system that lets the user choose from a variety of
> different methods of displaying a bunch of actions?
> i.e., some buttons, some menu items, some property (right-click) menu
> items, etc.
> 
> Just some thoughts.
> 
> Daryl.
> 
> Toby Donaldson wrote:
> 
>> Daryl,
>> 
>> I've been looking at TheButtonMatrix, and I think it's nearly read to
>> add to TheMatrix. An essential fix is needed, though:
>> 
>> - The image is not correctly set in the frame. The bottom of the frame
>> is too low, and so a gray line is visible. Also, the right side of the
>> entire image is apparently covered by the button panel. The image must
>> appear precisely in the frame, with no excess space or overlapping.
>> 
>> In addition, there are some possible improvements that would probably
>> make it better, although we can live without them:
>> 
>> - The button panel background is big, gray, and unappealing. Can it be
>> white instead? Can a method to set the button panel background be added?
>> - When the button panel is put on the left side of the image, the
>> right edge of the buttons is ragged because the buttons are not the
>> same width. This looks messy and should be fixed, i.e. the buttons
>> should be made the same width.
>> - After seeing the button panels, I think a menu bar with a menu
>> containing the save/load/close features would probably look nicer. For
>> beginners, having the buttons right on the screen where they can see
>> them is good, because then they don't need to hunt around or guess
>> what features are available. But there is so much unused space, that
>> after a while I suspect many users will find that to be a bit of an
>> eyesore. So a menu bar might be the nicest way to deal with this.
>> - And speaking of the menu bar, another possibility is to use a
>> mouse-click menu, e.g. when the user, say, right-clicks on the image,
>> a menu with the save/load/close options would pop up. For frequent
>> users of TheMatrix, this might be popular.
>> 
>> I added the file ButtonTest into your developer package on CVS with a
>> few more test rungs, including a few comments. I also add the method
>> "enableAllButtons" to TheButtonMatrix.
>> 
>> Toby
>> 
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Dr. Toby Donaldson
School of Computing Science
Simon Fraser University