Re: [CSCMail-Users] attitude and mailing lists .....

[Maher A. <mu...@mu...>]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:22:26 -0400 (EDT), Mark Neill MIDTIER said:

> 
>      CSCMail may be harder to install than, say, M$ Office, but it is by
>  far one of the easier software packages to install.	Most software for
>  Linux comes in an RPM that simply complains that you don't have X, Y, or Z
>  installed on your system, offering no help in where to get X, Y, or Z, or
>  whether those packages themselves need M, N, or O to work.
>  
>      Maher has made the effort to write an installer that, were you to read
>  the directions (specify your 'get' program, have at least X already on
>  your system), installs just about flawlessly.  I had probelms, but I have
>  problems with everything since I tried running the installer from behind a
>  firewall the first time.

I will try to come up with a lil faq on how to use the installer if you are
behind a firewall :)

>      Maybe it could be easier, yes.  Maybe someone could write the SQL to
>  create the database entries for you.  But over all, for what the program
>  encompasses, it's no more difficult to install and set up than most
>  software I've built from source (which this essentially is, being all
>  Perl).

I try most of the time to make migrationn-scripts for each accomplished step in
CVS be it CSCMail or Pronto - sometimes I dont until further time after
implemnting the feature  because I am not so sure if I want to keep it that way
:) but I'll try harder.
Thanks for the nice comments everybody, It is refreshing to see that someone
knows what they are talking about.

Maher

>  --Mark
>  
>  
>  Mark Neill
>  Enterprise Backup &
>    UNIX Administrator
>  CSX Technology
>  Mar...@cs...
>  
>  On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>  
>  > now maher, you need to be honest here, particularly when you are
>  commenting
>  > on something so recent. what i said, as i am sure you recall, is you game
>  me
>  > the same advice you had given a few months ago which didn't work then
>  > either. as you also recall, none of your suggestions worked. given that, i
>  > would say it is reasonable to conclude that cscmail installation is
>  > practically impossible, not just hard, for non-linux experts. your
>  attitude
>  > is very bad, particularly if it is associated with an application which
>  you
>  > hope that more than a few experts might use. installation, simple, easy,
>  > clean, installation is a most important characteristic of any application.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > At 03:11 PM 6/24/00 -0500, Maher Awamy wrote:
>  > >i have no comment to what you are trying to do here except say that I was
>  > >trying to help you yesterday and you bashed us and cscmail by saying that
>  > >cscmail installation is hard, etc... I do not remember you being the
>  moderator
>  > >of this list also...  nor code cscmail nor have a say in this. Thanks for
>  your
>  > >silence.
>  > >On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:27:31 -0400, james g. keegan jr. said:
>  > >
>  > > > the message below is fairly old but i thought it called for comment.
>  > > >
>  > > >  here we have someone asking the list for help and receiving the
>  following
>  > > >  condescending and ugly response:
>  > > >
>  > > >  hopefully, this was just a one-time ignorant error which won't be
>  > > >  repeated...
>  > > >  ]
>  > > >  At 09:31 AM 5/5/00 -0500, Maher Awamy wrote:
>  > > >  >pete, although this is something you should know and has ntohing to
>  do
>  > > >  >with cscmail
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  >rpm -ivh blah --nodeps since you know you have the dep and even
>  better.
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  >On Fri, 05 May 2000 23:45:30 +1200, Pete (Kiwi-Hawk) said:
>  > > >  >
>  > > >  > > Hi
>  > > >  > >
>  > > >  > >  I just had to update my MySQL to 3.22 and the DigitalDJ program
>  was
>  > > >  > >  useing the earlier version
>  > > >  > >  that suppied this:	libmysqlclient.so.4 ...now when I try
to run
>  or
>  > > >  > >  reinstall I get:
>  > > >  > >  failed dependencies:
>  > > >  > >  libmysqlclient.so.4 is needed by DigitalDJ-0.5-1.rpm
>  > > >  > >
>  > > >  > >  I'd like to know how I go about giving that lib back, can I get
>  way
>  > > >  > >  with
>  > > >  > >  rpm ivh and install it as well as what every has replaced it?
>  > > >  > >
>  > > >  > >  Cheers
>  > > >  > >  kiwi-Hawk (Pete)
>  > > >  > >
>  > > >  > >
>  > > >  >
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