cscmail-users

RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing

[Richard P. <ao...@ds...>]

Daniel, thanks for this, and you to Gavin. You guys were both right. I
was trying to run it outside the GUI. It now runs fine within terminal
mode for a while, but towards the end I get the following messages:

Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/DBD-CSV-0.1027: no such file or directory
Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/HTMLParser-3.25: no such file or directory
Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/URI-1.17: no such file or directory
Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/IO-stringy-1.210: no such file or directory

I had assumed CSCMailInstaller would create any directories it needed.
Is it that I need to manually create these first, or is it failing to
find some files do you think?

Thanks again for your help.

Richard


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Schregenberger [mailto:np...@gm...] 
> Sent: 06 March 2003 17:04
> To: Richard Poynder
> Cc: Mailinglist: CSCMail
> Subject: Re: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing
> 
> 
> Richard Poynder wrote:
> 
> > I've been trying to install CSCMail with the CSCMailInstaller.pl 
> > option, but I get the error message: Gtk warning: cannot 
> open display: 
> > at (eval) line 1.
> > 
> > Can anyone help?
> 
> Are you running the installer as root? If yes, how did you 
> login? I mean: does X run under user root as well? If not 
> this might be the problem: you are not allowed to use another 
> users X-Server, not even if you're root. There is a way to 
> change that (temporarily, everthing else wouldn't make sense 
> and was a security issue), but the easy way is to start X as 
> root or start a second X for root.
> 
> -- Daniel


======================


> I've been trying to install CSCMail with the CSCMailInstaller.pl 
> option, but I get the error message: Gtk warning: cannot open display:

> at (eval) line 1.

You usually get the "cannot open display" error when you're not running
a GUI, or are running a shell session that doesn't have X forwarding.
The best way to check is to see what the $DISPLAY environment variable
contains. For example, when I open a terminal and do

	$ echo $DISPLAY

If it's empty, then that's the problem.

HTH,

Gavin.

PGP/GPG key ID: 891D8FCA

RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing

[Richard P. <ao...@ds...>]

Thanks Daniel

I think you are right. It seems CSCMail is no longer being developed,
and the work  redirected to Pronto, so I have shifted to trying to
install that. Things went more smoothly, but again I got stuck at the
last point! At the very end I get a message along the lines of:

 Sh: CD/root/prontobuild URI-1.19: no such file or directory

I assumed that I needed to install URI 1.19, which I think I found OK as
an RPM on the web. But when I try to run the URI RPM I get a message
about failed dependencies, and a statement that it needs Perl 5.6. I
have the necessary version of Perl on my machine, but the URI RPM
doesn't seem to find it. How do I get it to find Perl when I run the rpm
command?

Thanks for all your help.

Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Schregenberger [mailto:np...@gm...] 
> Sent: 06 March 2003 21:05
> To: Richard Poynder
> Cc: Mailinglist: CSCMail
> Subject: RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing
> 
> 
> Richard Poynder wrote:
> 
> > Daniel, thanks for this, and you to Gavin. You guys were 
> both right. I
> > was trying to run it outside the GUI. It now runs fine 
> within terminal
> > mode for a while, but towards the end I get the following messages:
> > 
> > Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/DBD-CSV-0.1027: no such file or directory
> > Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/HTMLParser-3.25: no such file or directory
> > Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/URI-1.17: no such file or directory
> > Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/IO-stringy-1.210: no such file or directory
> > 
> > I had assumed CSCMailInstaller would create any directories 
> it needed.
> > Is it that I need to manually create these first, or is it 
> failing to
> > find some files do you think?
> 
> The versions of the perl-packages it depends on are hardcoded into the
> installer-script. You'd need to change these to the newest 
> versions, since it
> seems that CountZero, the CSCMail Maintainer doesn't do it 
> anymore...to be
> hones, I don't know if development is continuing on CSCMail 
> (How far is the
> C-Version grown CZ?). I don't know if it downloaded the 
> packages and only
> unpacking them failed or if it needs the correct version 
> number to download it.
> You may find the version numbers on CPAN. I can't tell you 
> much more, cause I'm
> not really into perl.
> 
> By the way: I suggest you use the CVS Version of CSCMail. 
> Cause 1.6.1 has a Y2K
> issue and some other things. The easiest way to do that is to 
> install 1.6.1
> first, which will install you all the packages it depends on, 
> and then checkout
> and install CVS. I'm not sure, but if I remember exactly, 
> this is done by a
> simple "make install" in your local copy of the CVS-Version.
> 
> -- Daniel
> 
> 
> "The C Programming Language -- A language which combines the
> flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language."
> 
> 

RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing

[Daniel S. <np...@gm...>]

Richard Poynder wrote:

> I think you are right. It seems CSCMail is no longer being developed,
> and the work	redirected to Pronto, so I have shifted to trying to
> install that. Things went more smoothly, but again I got stuck at the
> last point! At the very end I get a message along the lines of:
> 
>  Sh: CD/root/prontobuild URI-1.19: no such file or directory

This is the same problem: version numbers are hardcoded in the installer
script. You need to change that. If I managed to search for the right thing on
www.cpan.org URI has now version 1.23
It shouldn't be too hard to change this in the installer script.

> I assumed that I needed to install URI 1.19, which I think I found OK as
> an RPM on the web. But when I try to run the URI RPM I get a message
> about failed dependencies, and a statement that it needs Perl 5.6. I
> have the necessary version of Perl on my machine, but the URI RPM
> doesn't seem to find it. How do I get it to find Perl when I run the rpm
> command?

I'm not sure if installing the RPM will help, since the installer still won't
find the directory. But maybe it detects that you have a recent version of URI
then and doesn't try to install one by itself.
If you think you've got all the stuff that was named as a failed dependency,
you can try to install the rpm with the --nodeps flag. This will install it
even if dependencies fail.

> Thanks for all your help.

No Problem.

-- Daniel


No man is an island, but some of us are long peninsulas.

RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing

[Richard P. <ao...@ds...>]

Thanks for this. I have subsequently upgraded to RedHat 8.0, which comes
with an e-mail program. It has really s....l....o....w....e....d  my
system down though. Not unlike upgrading Windows on an older machine!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Schregenberger [mailto:np...@gm...] 
> Sent: 07 March 2003 11:38
> To: Richard Poynder
> Cc: Mailinglist: CSCMail
> Subject: RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing
> 
> 
> Richard Poynder wrote:
> 
> > I think you are right. It seems CSCMail is no longer being 
> developed,
> > and the work	redirected to Pronto, so I have shifted 
> to trying to
> > install that. Things went more smoothly, but again I got 
> stuck at the 
> > last point! At the very end I get a message along the lines of:
> > 
> >  Sh: CD/root/prontobuild URI-1.19: no such file or directory
> 
> This is the same problem: version numbers are hardcoded in 
> the installer script. You need to change that. If I managed 
> to search for the right thing on www.cpan.org URI has now 
> version 1.23 It shouldn't be too hard to change this in the 
> installer script.
> 
> > I assumed that I needed to install URI 1.19, which I think 
> I found OK 
> > as an RPM on the web. But when I try to run the URI RPM I get a 
> > message about failed dependencies, and a statement that it 
> needs Perl 
> > 5.6. I have the necessary version of Perl on my machine, 
> but the URI 
> > RPM doesn't seem to find it. How do I get it to find Perl 
> when I run 
> > the rpm command?
> 
> I'm not sure if installing the RPM will help, since the 
> installer still won't find the directory. But maybe it 
> detects that you have a recent version of URI then and 
> doesn't try to install one by itself. If you think you've got 
> all the stuff that was named as a failed dependency, you can 
> try to install the rpm with the --nodeps flag. This will 
> install it even if dependencies fail.
> 
> > Thanks for all your help.
> 
> No Problem.
> 
> -- Daniel
> 
> 
> No man is an island, but some of us are long peninsulas.
> 
> 

RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing

[Gavin B. <jo...@sp...>]

> Thanks for this. I have subsequently upgraded to RedHat 8.0, which comes
> with an e-mail program. It has really s....l....o....w....e....d  my
> system down though. Not unlike upgrading Windows on an older machine!

That's strange - I upgraded this machine (566MHz PIII, 328MB RAM) from RH 
7 to RH 8 and I don't notice any slowdowns. If anything it's a bit faster 
- Gnome 2 is generally considered to be faster than Gnome 1.

You might want to tweak your services so that you don't have a load of 
unnecessary services running. As far as I'm concerned, if the output of 
"ps" is longer than one window the machine is over-loaded ;-)

Gavin.

-- 
Gavin Brown
e: gav...@uk...
w: http://jodrell.net/
PGP/GPG key ID: 891D8FCA

RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing

[Richard P. <ao...@ds...>]

Thanks for the tip Gavin. I'll look into that. Something seems to have
changed!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gavin Brown [mailto:jo...@sp...] 
> Sent: 10 March 2003 10:26
> To: Richard Poynder
> Cc: 'Daniel Schregenberger'; 'Mailinglist: CSCMail'
> Subject: RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing
> 
> 
> 
> > Thanks for this. I have subsequently upgraded to RedHat 8.0, which 
> > comes with an e-mail program. It has really 
> s....l....o....w....e....d  
> > my system down though. Not unlike upgrading Windows on an older 
> > machine!
> 
> That's strange - I upgraded this machine (566MHz PIII, 328MB 
> RAM) from RH 
> 7 to RH 8 and I don't notice any slowdowns. If anything it's 
> a bit faster 
> - Gnome 2 is generally considered to be faster than Gnome 1.
> 
> You might want to tweak your services so that you don't have 
> a load of 
> unnecessary services running. As far as I'm concerned, if the 
> output of 
> "ps" is longer than one window the machine is over-loaded ;-)
> 
> Gavin.
> 
> -- 
> Gavin Brown
> e: gav...@uk...
> w: http://jodrell.net/
> PGP/GPG key ID: 891D8FCA
> 
> 

RE: [CSCMail-Users] Problems Installing

[Daniel S. <np...@gm...>]

Richard Poynder wrote:

> Daniel, thanks for this, and you to Gavin. You guys were both right. I
> was trying to run it outside the GUI. It now runs fine within terminal
> mode for a while, but towards the end I get the following messages:
> 
> Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/DBD-CSV-0.1027: no such file or directory
> Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/HTMLParser-3.25: no such file or directory
> Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/URI-1.17: no such file or directory
> Sh: CD/root/cscmailbuild/IO-stringy-1.210: no such file or directory
> 
> I had assumed CSCMailInstaller would create any directories it needed.
> Is it that I need to manually create these first, or is it failing to
> find some files do you think?

The versions of the perl-packages it depends on are hardcoded into the
installer-script. You'd need to change these to the newest versions, since it
seems that CountZero, the CSCMail Maintainer doesn't do it anymore...to be
hones, I don't know if development is continuing on CSCMail (How far is the
C-Version grown CZ?). I don't know if it downloaded the packages and only
unpacking them failed or if it needs the correct version number to download it.
You may find the version numbers on CPAN. I can't tell you much more, cause I'm
not really into perl.

By the way: I suggest you use the CVS Version of CSCMail. Cause 1.6.1 has a Y2K
issue and some other things. The easiest way to do that is to install 1.6.1
first, which will install you all the packages it depends on, and then checkout
and install CVS. I'm not sure, but if I remember exactly, this is done by a
simple "make install" in your local copy of the CVS-Version.

-- Daniel


"The C Programming Language -- A language which combines the
flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language."