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Re: [CSCMail-Users] glibconfig.h: No such file or directory

[Dave T. <d3...@ix...>]

cscmailers:

Thanks for the tip Count.  In fact I had removed as much of the gnome
stuff as I thought prudent as my redhat distribution also included kde,
and two memory/disk hogs was two more than I needed (or so I thought at
the time).

But I have a new question.  After spending more of my life than I care to
anymore dowloading and installing skillions or perl packages, I was
informed by the last one that it could not find horse shit.h.

So, I also installed over 5mb of MySQL.  Do I need all that horse shit or
can I get rid of some of it?  When I finally got horse shit started it
refused to accept mysql as an answer to which DB I wanted to use, anyway.
 Something about root not being a database or something (whatever).

On an unrelated subject (and since I cannot find documentation except
some DB which seems to have been aborted, midterm), can DB not read gig's
key files or get keys from a key server - must I enter every key manually
into the address book (why are they there anyway)?

Thanks in advance,
Dave

Re: [CSCMail-Users] glibconfig.h: No such file or directory

[Dave T. <dav...@ix...>]

 Steve,

Thank you for the reply.  I will immediately attempt to upgade to 1.7.8.

P.S.  I was disturbed to discover the substitutions in my message, and
relieved that, (1) someone was so astute as to recognize that they were
not intentional, and (2) that I was not totaly incompetent with the spell
checker.  The intent of the message was to discover if I could relieve my
disk of MySQL.

Regards,
Dave

Re: [CSCMail-Users] glibconfig.h: No such file or directory

[Dave <ro...@ix...>]

Thanks for the help so far, but a couple of items:

<st...@vo...> strongly advised me to upgrade from 1.6.1 to 1.7.8.
CSCMailInstaller.pl in that package tried to install 1.6 so I cancelled it
and just typed 'make install'.  Perhaps that wasn't adequate.  CSCMail
does not send anymore.  Instead I see error messages about bcc.  This new
field is alluded to in changelog, but as a cvs user I have been unable so
far to translate the changelog messages into some action I am to take, nor
does there seem to be a mention of this field in the migration scrips.                

Steve also suggested that I RTFM.  My problem is that as I look for
"The Documentation" I don't know when I've found it, as the concept might mean
scattered fragments to one person (a busy developer), and a comprehensive, voluminous,
detail-filled paper/html/pdf/etc to someone else (a confused user).  So far nothing
left on my system (by my admittedly problematic install) falls into the latter
category.  For example:  docs/message.html (mentioned in docs/index.html) is absent.
In docs/setup.html, the html code "<a href="sub:dbChooser">choose a database</a>"
causes my html browsers to tell me that they are unable to find the file or 
directory (sub:dbChooser).  Perhaps placing the docs at www.cscmail.net
would be a good idea (sorry, if they are already there; I have not found a
link for them). Here's what I find when I click on the help topic for the
main window:


   This is the help file for the CSCMail Main Window.
 
   Please write me. My name is cscmail/docs/main.html
 
   Thank you,
   Your friendly un-written help topic.


                                                
I don't like writing user documentation either, but if I'm asked to RTFM, I would
like there to be an FM.

Should I re-install from scratch?

Will gpg/pgp be supported soon?

Thanks again,
Dave

Re: [CSCMail-Users] glibconfig.h: No such file or directory

[Steven K. <st...@vo...>]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:31:56 -0400 (EDT), Dave said:

>  and just typed 'make install'.	Perhaps that wasn't adequate. 
CSCMail

This was the correct thing to do...

>  does not send anymore.	Instead I see error messages about bcc. 
This
>  new
>  field is alluded to in changelog, but as a cvs user I have been unable
>  so
>  far to translate the changelog messages into some action I am to take,

1.7.8 is under development.  Although it runs well, it is not a released
product, and as such, does not have the best of docs, nor migration
scripts.  In fact, this is why it's not 1.8.0 yet.

The quick way to solve your problem:

CSV databases are nothing more than comma seperated text files.  In your
~/.cscmail directory you should find files called messages, filters,
boxlist, accounts, addresses and so forth...  Each of these corresponds
to a "table"  So when the changelog says you need to add the column "bcc"
to the table "messages" that means you simply edit the messages text
file, and at the end of the first line put a ", bcc"

CSCMail is designed to work with an SQL database. CSV support is provided
for those users who do not wish to install a database.	Be aware that CSV
support is SLOW.  Once you get more than 100 or so messages in your
messagestore, you will wish you had started out using a database such as
mySQL or Postgres.  INSTALL has instructions detailing the setup of
both...

>  Steve also suggested that I RTFM.  My problem is that as I look for
>  "The Documentation" I don't know when I've found it, as the concept
>  might mean
>  scattered fragments to one person (a busy developer), and a
>  comprehensive, voluminous,
>  detail-filled paper/html/pdf/etc to someone else (a confused user). 

1.7.8 doesn't have concise documentation.  It does have three files that
should tell you all you need to know.  README, INSTALL and ChangeLog

>  So far nothing
>  left on my system (by my admittedly problematic install) falls into
>  the latter
>  category.  For example:  docs/message.html (mentioned in
>  docs/index.html) is absent.
>  In docs/setup.html, the html code "<a href="sub:dbChooser">choose a
>  database</a>"

The docs/ files are custom HTML used by CSCMail's HTML based help system.
 We have extended HTML to allow for the direct execution of CSCMail
subroutines as clickable links in the help.  If you where to read the
setup.html file via the CSCMail help system, clicking that link would
launch the Database Chooser dialog box, alowing you to pick what database
you wanted CSCMail to use.

>  causes my html browsers to tell me that they are unable to find the
>  file or 
>  directory (sub:dbChooser).  Perhaps placing the docs at
>  www.cscmail.net
>  would be a good idea (sorry, if they are already there; I have not
>  found a
>  link for them). Here's what I find when I click on the help topic for
>  the
>  main window:
>  
>  
>     This is the help file for the CSCMail Main Window.
>   
>     Please write me. My name is cscmail/docs/main.html
>   
>     Thank you,
>     Your friendly un-written help topic.

Most of the online help files have not been written yet.  Again,
developmental software... About the only file that has been written is
the "setup wizard" (setup.html) and Option Dialog's help (option.html) 
The setup wizard gets launched the first time you run CSCMail if it
cannot find an existing database.

>						
>  I don't like writing user documentation either, but if I'm asked to
>  RTFM, I would
>  like there to be an FM.
>  
>  Should I re-install from scratch?

Well, if you don't have any mail to salvage, then deleting your
~/.cscmail and ~/.cscmailrc files is the easiest way to setup 1.7.8, as
it will then run through the setup wizard and configure the tables for
you.  If you do have mail to salvage, then you should manually alter the
tables as specified in the ChangeLog.
  
>  Will gpg/pgp be supported soon?

gpg is supported to encrypt and sign outgoing mail.  For decoding of
encrypted messages, you must use the "File->Save" method to save them as
a text file suitable for passing into gpg via the command line.  GPG
support is still under development.

>  Thanks again,
>  Dave

No problem, sorry for the tone of my previous message, the "spell check"
bug that caused your e-mail to be sprinkled quite liberally with "horse
shit" kinda pissed me off till I realized what was really going on...

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Re: [CSCMail-Users] glibconfig.h: No such file or directory

[Steven K. <st...@vo...>]

On 23 Jul 2000 19:27:40 EDT, Dave Tucker said:

> cscmailers:
>  
>  Thanks for the tip Count.  In fact I had removed as much of the gnome
>  stuff as I thought prudent as my redhat distribution also included
>  kde,
>  and two memory/disk hogs was two more than I needed (or so I thought
>  at
>  the time).

Gtk is not GNOME.  GNOME depends on Gtk, but so does "The Gimp" and many
many other applications.  GNOME is on top of Gtk (it is another layer) 
CSCMail does NOT depend on GNOME.  It DOES depend on Gtk.
  
>  But I have a new question.  After spending more of my life than I care
>  to
>  anymore dowloading and installing skillions or perl packages, I was
>  informed by the last one that it could not find horse shit.h.

We don't require "horse shit.h"  Now, whatever it is that it REALLY
needed, if you don't bother to post legitimate error messages, I can't be
bothered to help you.

>  So, I also installed over 5mb of MySQL.  Do I need all that horse shit
>  or
>  can I get rid of some of it?  When I finally got horse shit started it
>  refused to accept mysql as an answer to which DB I wanted to use,
>  anyway.
>   Something about root not being a database or something (whatever).

We don't require the use of a database.  MySQL and Postgres (among
others) are supported, but not required.  Again, your attitude is
bothersome, but dispite your attempts to color the issue by substituting
"horse shit" for valid pieces of the error message, I can still discern
what the problem is.

You have to create an empty MySQL database with the same NAME as the user
you wish to run CSCMail as.  BTW: did you bother to read the CSCMail
documentation?	All of this is clearly spelled out in our docs.

>  On an unrelated subject (and since I cannot find documentation except
>  some DB which seems to have been aborted, midterm), can DB not read
>  gig's
>  key files or get keys from a key server - must I enter every key
>  manually
>  into the address book (why are they there anyway)?

gig?  DB?  Are you referring to GPG and CSCMail?  If so, no at this time,
CSCMail cannot get keys from the key server.  You do need to enter each
key in manually for users whom you wish to send encrypted mail to.  This
is being worked on, but at this point GPG support can be considered BETA.
 Why are the keys in the address book? where else would you put them?

>  Thanks in advance,
>  Dave

Upon re-reading your message, I find it very hard to believe that all of
the word substitutions are intentional.  I also checked the header and
noted that you are running 1.6.1 ... There was a spellcheck bug in 1.6.1
that caused multiple wierd substitutions such as is apparent in your
e-mail.  I strongly advise that you upgrade to 1.7.8 or at the least do
not use the spellcheck feature in 1.6.1... 

-Steve
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