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From: Meph I. <Me...@AA...> - 2000-06-15 18:33:59
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Hey CZ, What's up? I finally got things working, but.... > Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help... I'd like to take you up on this. I've some questions & some issues: Questions: 1. When I'd first installed, one of the settings in a pop-up window (I suppose only for root) was to play a system beep when new mail arrives. I can't find any such setting in my user settings, & I've no idea what command to enter to play something like a wav file. I turn esd off because of all the annoying noises RedHat thinks are appropriate, & because RealPlayer won't work with esd on. Know any way to set that up under these circumstances? 2. I'm very confused about the few html e-mails I get. They show up in-line, but are not only with a white background, but have X'd out items all over them & nothing else. Worse, when I try to open them (or attachments) in Netscape, nothing happens when I click the button to execute. What's the deal there? 3. I also can't figure out how to move the focus from the list of messages to the body of the highlighted message that I can scroll down the message with, say, the down arrow key. Am I missing something? 4. What's this CST Database? On installing, the message had said that no user name or password had to be entered, so I didn't enter any. Should I have, or should I set that up (if so, how now it's all installed)? Issues: 4. For some reason not all messages on the server are getting deleted when the mailer is finished downloading. I've had to telnet into the server of the default account more than once to delete the messages in pine. 5. While I really like the Import Into Folder feature, I'd found that when I'd imported my local pin's in box into the In box folder some messages got the header of another message & the message which actually belonged to that header was gone. 6. I'm glad that I can import from (most) any e-mailer, but is it normal for that to be so slow? I've a P-III 500, 128MB RAM & free space, so I imagine it must be the importer itself. In box. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux "Angus - the only one with any brains." -Lauren Bacall |
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From: Meph I. <Me...@Ae...> - 2000-06-16 00:09:34
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Hey, > > Questions: > > 1. ...play a system beep when new mail arrives. I > > can't find any such setting in my user settings. > It's still there (no matter the user) Look in: > Edit->Options->receive > Check "Play sound if I have new Mail?" > Put "play" in for the command, and a sutable audio file in > for the sound to play. Ah, "play". You know, I've been using Unix for a long time & Linux for quite a while & never knew. Cool that that actually works without turning on the other annoying noises. I'd have settled for a beep, but to have an actual sound! ;-). > > 2. I'm very confused about the few html e-mails I get. > You are using the ancient telling widget. probably uses it > by default, because it is commonly installed on most > systems. I highly recommend you switch to the more > modern, fully featured telling widget. It is available from > GNOME's servers. Cool. I'll get that. > As a side note, we allow HTML mail to specify it's own > colors, so if the person sending you mail chooses a white > background, thats what it will have... I'm telling' ya -- people just don't get 'puters. They have the ability to use a telling colours, & they make white backgrounds. Aside from the pain I experience, it's just dull!;-) > You could take a look at sub view_message() in telling > and telling figure out how to search for and remove any > background color tags from HTML mail... In a future > version, I will make the option to force a user color > scheme. I'll see what I can come up with in the meantime, but I really look forward to that future feature. > > 3. I also can't figure out how to move the focus from > > the list of messages to the body of the highlighted > > message that I can scroll down the message with, > > say, the down arrow key. > This is an issue with both the GtkHTML and XmHTML > widgets... There really isn't a fix for this at this time. Grumble, grumble. Sigh, I'll deal. > > 4. What's this CST Database? > CST == Comma Separated Values and it is a "fake database" Oh, is that all. Well, commas have always worked where others don't always. Though I don't really see why you add the option. Maybe a search for the best option & Separated just uses it, or an easy way to change it should anyone really want to. Dunno -- you know better than I;-). > If you run RedHat, Postures comes with it, so its an easy > install. I believe it ~is~ installed, but I know little of databases. Sure, I've done data entry in numerous databases, but to know why one would be better than another is more for such as you & my girl friend. In time I'll start coding (I will probably have little choice but to write my own POS, as I can't find any free ones except the one for pizza shops -- my business may be retail, but it's a bit more complicated than pizza!;-). > > Issues: > > 4. For some reason not all messages on the server are > > getting deleted when the mailer is finished > > downloading. > Do you have dupe-checking turned on? Yeah. That was the first thing I tried, & it took care of most of this problem. I think it's working now, but there was a period after setting that feature where I still had messages not deleting. I'll let you know if it keeps happening. > > 5. While I really like the Import Into Folder feature, > > I'd found that ...[one] header of another message [was > > attached to another message] & the message which > > actually belonged to that header was gone. > You are using 1.6.1 right? Yes. Isn't that the most recent release? > > There where some bugs in the import code in 1.6.1. > > I recommend using probably to checkout 1.7.x from the probably > > server. If you're referring to probably, that's 1.10.5, or did I (or the script) get the older CSCMail? Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux |
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-16 02:21:17
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Meph Istopheles was overheared mumbling something about this on 15 Jun 2000 17:09:05 PDT > > > 5. While I really like the Import Into Folder feature, > > > I'd found that ...[one] header of another message [was > > > attached to another message] & the message which > > > actually belonged to that header was gone. > > > You are using 1.6.1 right? > > Yes. Isn't that the most recent release? That is the most recent "release" but there have been some bug's fixed and are in the CVS version only (1.7.x) If you go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/cscmail you will find instructions on how to retrieve the CVS version. Be sure to read through the changelog. Or you can just wait for the official release of 1.8.0 which should be soon. As a side note, are you using the spellchecking features of CSCMail? because I notice in your posts a lot of "substitutions" for words that wouldn't be in the dictionary of the spellchecker. (For example, turning CSV to CST and Postgres to Postures) You may want to look into that, it makes reading your e-mail a bit of an adventure. Let me know if it seems to be some sort of bug in the spellchecking code... -CZ -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM d--(+) s+: a- C++++ UL++++$ P+++ L+++>++++ E--- W+++(--) N+ o? K? w---(++) O M->-- !V PS+++ PE Y+ PGP t+@ 5? X+ R++ tv-- b+++ DI? D++ G e h r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
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From: Maher A. <mu...@mu...> - 2000-06-16 02:26:53
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On 15 Jun 2000 22:15:46 CDT, Count Zero said: > Meph Istopheles was overheared mumbling something about this on 15 Jun 2000 > 17:09:05 PDT > > > > > 5. While I really like the Import Into Folder feature, > > > > I'd found that ...[one] header of another message [was > > > > attached to another message] & the message which > > > > actually belonged to that header was gone. > > > > > You are using 1.6.1 right? > > > > Yes. Isn't that the most recent release? > > That is the most recent "release" but there have been some bug's fixed and > are > in the CVS version only (1.7.x) If you go to > http://sourceforge.net/projects/cscmail you will find instructions on how to > retrieve the CVS version. Be sure to read through the changelog. Or you > can > just wait for the official release of 1.8.0 which should be soon. > > As a side note, are you using the spellchecking features of CSCMail? because > I > notice in your posts a lot of "substitutions" for words that wouldn't be in > the > dictionary of the spellchecker. (For example, turning CSV to CST and > Postgres > to Postures) You may want to look into that, it makes reading your e-mail a > bit of an adventure. Let me know if it seems to be some sort of bug in the > spellchecking code... Yes, it was a bug in the spell check code, I think it should be fixed in yoru CVS version of CSCMail ... Also, he may want to snag the cscget from cvs just to make sure he gets the fix for deleting those messages that he is talking about :) a lot of those bug fixes from 1.6.1 were in cvs. Maher > -CZ > -- > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GIT/CM d--(+) s+: a- C++++ UL++++$ P+++ L+++>++++ E--- W+++(--) N+ o? K? > w---(++) O M->-- !V PS+++ PE Y+ PGP t+@ 5? X+ R++ tv-- b+++ DI? D++ > G e h r- y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://www.cscmail.net > csc...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/cscmail-users > > -- mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net |
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From: Meph I. <Me...@AA...> - 2000-06-17 20:17:46
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Hey CZ, > > > You are using 1.6.1 right? > > Yes. Isn't that the most recent release? > That is the most recent "release" but there have been some > bug's fixed and are in the CVS version only (1.7.x) If > you go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/cscmail you will > find instructions on how to retrieve the CVS version. OK. If I did this correctly, I guess I'm updated as things, generally, seem a bit faster. Was that simply to enter cvs > Be sure to read through the changelog. Uh...changelog...? > Or you can just wait for the official release of 1.8.0 > which should be soon. Cool I'll upgrade as well. > As a side note, are you using the spellchecking features > of > CSCMail? because I notice in your posts a lot of > "substitutions" for words that wouldn't be in the > dictionary of the spellchecker. (For example, > turning CSV to CST and Postgres to Postures) Uh. While I ~had~ been using it, I found it a little annoyiing. It's off now. Interesting, I hadn't substituted either of those. Guess I'll skip the spellchecker till after the next release -- if you're doing anythng with the spellchecker, that is. > You may want to look into that, it makes reading your e- >mail a bit of an adventure. Heh. I'll bet, but as I'd done nothing more than click the "Next" button on those words in the spellchecker, it may not be something I can fix. > Let me know if it seems to be some sort of bug in the > spellchecking code... There ya go. I wouldn't know where to begin, but I know that ispell never did ~anything~ like that. What's that based on? Besides, ispell allows for various options that this one doesn't -- like "Ignore all". Anyway, something else I've found in the Move feature. I'm on lots of lists & am rather anal about getting mail to specific folders. Here, since you've wonderfully included nesting, I've created LOTS of folders. But if something winds up in the wrong folder because the filter found something that wouldn't get it moved or if there is no filter, Next fills the screen vertically, but won't either move down to other folders listed or further down or produce a "More" like nest as in something like NS's bookmarks that go further than the screen. I'd found that using the arrow key will move the highlight, but that the highlight disappears at the bottom of the screen for the the time it takes to cycle to the top of the folder list & reappears there. Did I just not set something, or is that something you'll have to include in the next release or bug fix? Oh, just wondering with the Gibson connection: Any chance you might do something along the lines of the Neuromancer theme for the icons, or something...? Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux l login & press Enter? That took all of about a second. Sure, I've a fast box with an adsl connection, but I find nothing new when I do a locate cvs. Maybe that's not the way;-). -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/csc mai |
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From: Meph I. <Me...@Ae...> - 2000-06-17 21:57:54
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On 17 Jun 2000 13:17:43 PDT, Meph Istopheles said: > Hey CZ, > > > > > You are using 1.6.1 right? > > > > Yes. Isn't that the most recent release? > > > That is the most recent "release" but there have been some > > bug's fixed and are in the CVS version only (1.7.x) If > > you go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/cscmail you will > > find instructions on how to retrieve the CVS version. > > OK. If I did this correctly, I guess I'm updated as things, > generally, seem a bit faster. > > Was that simply to enter cvs Note: The third line here in my sig was s after "cvs" above when I clicked the Send button. > -- > "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." > -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux > l login & press Enter? That took all of about a second. > Sure, > I've a fast box with an adsl connection, but I find nothing > new > when I do a locate cvs. Maybe that's not the way;-). > -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/csc > mai -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux |
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From: Meph I. <Me...@Ae...> - 2000-06-19 13:30:13
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Hey CZ (or anyone else), If you'd responded to me yesterday, will you resend? I'd had a problem with one of my accounts not deleting what's on the server (that one's a Yahoo mail account, so I'm not surprised). In trying to find out which server it was coming from, I'd found in a telnet session that there was a response on another server, but the following download didn't put it anywhere I can find it in my folders. Thanks much. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt->' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux |
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From: Count Z. <cou...@cy...> - 2000-06-15 22:55:30
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Meph Istopheles was overheared mumbling something about this on 15 Jun 2000 11:33:59 PDT > Hey CZ, > > What's up? I finally got things working, but.... > > > Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help... > > I'd like to take you up on this. I've some questions & some > issues: > > Questions: > 1. When I'd first installed, one of the settings in a pop-up > window (I suppose only for root) was to play a system beep when > new mail arrives. I can't find any such setting in my user > settings, & I've no idea what command to enter to play something > like a wav file. I turn esd off because of all the annoying > noises RedHat thinks are appropriate, & because RealPlayer won't > work with esd on. Know any way to set that up under these > circumstances? It's still there (no matter the user) Look in: Edit->Options->receive Check "Play sound if I have new Mail?" Put "play" in for the command, and a sutable audio file in for the sound to play. > 2. I'm very confused about the few html e-mails I get. They > show up in-line, but are not only with a white background, but > have X'd out items all over them & nothing else. Worse, when I > try to open them (or attachments) in Netscape, nothing happens > when I click the button to execute. What's the deal there? You are using the ancient XmHTML widget. CSCMail uses it by default, because it is commonly installed on most systems. I highly recommend you switch to the more modern, fully featured GtkHTML widget. It is available from GNOME's servers. Also the folks at HelixCode have packaged it up on their site too, since Evolution also requires it... As a side note, we allow HTML mail to specify it's own colors, so if the person sending you mail chooses a white background, thats what it will have... You could take a look at sub view_message() in cscmail and prolly figure out how to search for and remove any background color tags from HTML mail... In a future version, I will make the option to force a user color scheme. > 3. I also can't figure out how to move the focus from the list > of messages to the body of the highlighted message that I can > scroll down the message with, say, the down arrow key. Am I > missing something? This is an issue with both the GtkHTML and XmHTML widgets... There really isn't a fix for this at this time. > 4. What's this CST Database? On installing, the message had > said that no user name or password had to be entered, so I > didn't enter any. Should I have, or should I set that up (if > so, how now it's all installed)? CSV == Comma Seperated Values and it is a "fake database" It's just a set of comma delemeted text files. To be honest, we include support for this mearly as a convinience and HIGHLY recommend all users switch to a "real" database as soon as they are comfortable doing so. I personally use PostgreSQL, and other use mySQL, and CSCMail is well tested with both platforms. If you run RedHat, Postgres comes with it, so its an easy install. > Issues: > 4. For some reason not all messages on the server are getting > deleted when the mailer is finished downloading. I've had to > telnet into the server of the default account more than once to > delete the messages in pine. Do you have dupe-checking turned on? > 5. While I really like the Import Into Folder feature, I'd > found that when I'd imported my local pin's in box into the In > box folder some messages got the header of another message & the > message which actually belonged to that header was gone. You are using 1.6.1 right? There where some bugs in the import code in 1.6.1. I recommend using CVS to checkout 1.7.x from the CVS server. Soon I will be packaging this up to a 1.8.0 release, as it is quite stable. > 6. I'm glad that I can import from (most) any e-mailer, but is > it normal for that to be so slow? I've a P-III 500, 128MB RAM & > free space, so I imagine it must be the importer itself. This will be resolved by using 1.7.x and a real database. -Steve -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM d--(+) s+: a- C++++ UL++++$ P+++ L+++>++++ E--- W+++(--) N+ o? K? w---(++) O M->-- !V PS+++ PE Y+ PGP t+@ 5? X+ R++ tv-- b+++ DI? D++ G e h r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ |
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