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From: John L. M. <sof...@Th...> - 2000-06-11 20:08:57
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I an resending this eMail in the hopes it will successfully arrive this time :) I am sending this note to both the developer's and user's lists as I feel it is applies to both parties. John L. Males Software I.Q. Consulting Toronto, Ontario Canada 11 June 2000 16:05 mailto:sof...@Th... - ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Mail Delivery System <> To: Self Subject: Mail Delivery Failure. Date sent: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 00:15:34 Delivery has failed on the enclosed message for the following reasons reported either by the mail delivery system on the mail relay host or by the local TCP/IP transport module: 553 envelope recipient address invalid (#5.7.1) Your original mail message follows: - -------------------------------------------------------- From: "John L. Males" <sof...@Th...> Organization: Toronto, Ontario, Canada To: cs...@cs... Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 00:15:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Re[02]: [CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve & Send button Reply-to: sof...@Th... Message-ID: <3935AB1E.8874.52470F@localhost> X-Confirm-Reading-To: sof...@Th... X-pmrqc: 1 Return-receipt-to: sof...@Th... Priority: normal X-PM-Encryptor: QDPGP, 4 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Opps, I goofed and sent this to the wrong eMail address. Sorry. Regards, John L. Males Software I.Q. Consulting Toronto, Ontario Canada 01 June 2000 00:15 mailto:sof...@Th... - - ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: "John L. Males" <sof...@Th...> Organization: Toronto, Ontario, Canada To: maj...@cs... Date sent: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:43:18 -0500 Subject: Re[02]: [CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve & Send button Send reply to: sof...@Th... Priority: normal - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, I am likley to be a new member to the CSCMail discussions. I will of course have some questions of my own to ask once I have completed reviewing the archives of the past discussions. I do feel compelled to respond to this item of discussion as I have been enjoying a Windows based program that has a set of features I believe Brian was expressing an indirect need for. I am stuck on Windows :o(( because I need many of the Pegasus Mail features in a Linux eMail program. Sound familar al la a need for Outlook features in a Linux eMail program? :o)) It is my belief that what Brian is expressing is a need for CSCMail to perform a POP Authentication before sending mail. I have not used Yahoo services, but I do use POP/MTP servers that do not belong to my ISP. One of the methods to ensure SMTP servers are only used by "authorized users" is to check the IP address of the "sender to the SMTP" server has a valid POP3 mail account with the "provider". There is of course more to this validation process behind the scenes. Now if you happened to reply/forward/create and send eMail before you have retrieved your eMail, and/or your Internet Connection has dropped since you last retrieved you will not be allowed to send mail into the SMTP server. With the SMTP server I use one will receive a message to the effect that you must POP before you send. What this means is one has to somehow do a POP3 authentication before sending mail. If one has a mail monitoring utility it can perform the POP3 Authentication without retrieving eMail (retreiving headers os ok). This is great if the objective is to send eMail before retrieving or viewing the headers on the eMail server. In the "typical" eMail client program world this means a user MUST Retrieve their eMail BEFORE Sending any eMail. Without going into a very detailed discussion, suffice to say there are eMail programs that will be nothing short of problematic even when a savvy user tries to meet the SMTP server requirement in a manual manner - by trying to retrieve eMail with the eMail program first. Pegasus Mail has a set of features that really handles this requirement very cleanly. I have not seen any other eMail program that has even made any attempt to to so. I have a eMail Client features list I am hoping will be of eager interest for a team to incorporate into a eMail client. The list I have only needs me to review it and set "my" must haves, very much want to have, and nice to have priorities. Even though I have not have the chance to use CSCMail yet, I would be willing to submit my "wish" list for an eMail client. In the meantime if any of the developmet team at least has access to a Win9x/NT system you might find it helpful to install Pegasus Mail on it just to review the many useful features I have yet to see in any other eMail client I have looked at to date in the OS/2, Windows and Linux environments. I actually have been trying to evaluate various eMail programs in Linux so I can get off the headaches I keep having with M$ software and Windoze. In the course of that evaluation process I have become aware of CSCMail. I have not been able to install CSCMail as yet to decide if this will be the eMail program I will want to make some enhancement suggestions to from my useage of Pegasus Mail. From what I have read, seen and followed in the motivation for creating CSCMail I am hoping with suggestion from me and efforts of the CSCMail community that CSCMail will be a Benchmark eMail program. I will eMail later on my questions on getting CSCMail installed. Please bear in mind at the moment I am flipping between Linux and WindowsNT on the same machine. There will likely be "gaps" of time in any response or receipt of discussions. I am into some extensive Linux distribution evaluation and sourcing the "tools" of choice for my use in Linux. This has already meant I am not able to get back onto WindowsNT to do my eMail for 2-3 days. Regards, John L. Males Software I.Q. Consulting Toronto, Ontario Canada 31 May 2000 17:43 mailto:sof...@Th... > From: Maher Awamy (mu...@mu...) > Date: Tue May 30 2000 - 00:26:52 CDT > > Next message: Bleicke Holm: "Re: [CSC Mail] debian" > Previous message: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve > & Send button" In reply to: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for > a Recieve & Send button" > > > > Brian, > > CSCMail does receive before it sends already, I dont know why > you are > having a problem like that, or do they want the same connection to > send also?? impossible though since the smtp port is different than > the pop port. > > Maher > On 30 May 2000 13:04:39 WST, Brain Kiosk said: > > > I use Yahoo's pop and smtp servers, but they require that you login > > on the pop server before using the smtp server. It would help if I > > could change the order of the Send & Recieve button and mail item so > > that the it recieves mail before it sends the mail. > > > > -- > > Brian K. Smith > > > > owner > > Brain Kiosk Software > > email: br...@br... > > > > > > -- > mu...@mu... -- http://www.muhri.net > > > > Next message: Bleicke Holm: "Re: [CSC Mail] debian" > Previous message: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for a Recieve > & Send button" In reply to: Brain Kiosk: "[CSC Mail] Wishing for > a Recieve & Send button" > > This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Wed May 31 2000 - > 15:00:44 CDT - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 -- QDPGP 2.61a Comment: . iQA/AwUBOTWVhfLzhJbmoDZ+EQLJ0wCg7hHm8q2X23SItzpdKFjEKhcHrYYAoMEf BCKFcz/SCYVZ8cg89gHeRU/B =nUHB - - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - - ------- End of forwarded message ------- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 -- QDPGP 2.61a Comment: . iQA/AwUBOTXxbfLzhJbmoDZ+EQJNWQCfRo/YhsTwS6kN9qqq17h+rdaWRs4An1zc A988w8t3DfWR882NSR0eQCfk =purq - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - ------- End of forwarded message ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 -- QDPGP 2.61a Comment: . iQA/AwUBOUP/GPLzhJbmoDZ+EQKhzACeLh17Clyd0LEU1GQ3JFaS0pgvfOcAoNY/ XeVLvqQ82iwpkLDB2sqmvbp5 =nxQu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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