cscmail-devel

Re: [Cscmail-devel] Feature request

[John S. <su...@os...>]

> With the C version I am using Mark Crispin's "c-client" for all mailbox
> access.  What this allows is support for IMAP, POP, and pretty much all
> local mailstore formats known to the Unix world (mbox, mx, mbx, tenex, mtx,
> mmdf, unix, mh) ... As such, I believe it solves your problem already.  It
> will also support an extensive internal filtering mechanism that will be
> powerful enough for 90% of our users needs without a need for something like
> procmail.  For users who want to use procmail anyway, I recommend they use
> fetchmail to retrieve their mail (NOT cscmail) and then procmail will get a
> chance at it during the local sendmail delivery phase (assuming procmail is
> setup in the default manner)  Procmail will deliver the mail to whatever
> mailbox format you have configured on your system, and then CSCMail will be
> able to read that format (in your case, it sounds like mh format)

There's a lot of people already have procmail filters; expecting the folk to set upp 
fetchmail in order to use procmail isn't the most satisfactory (to the user) way of 
addressing the need.

I'd not have thought it much more than pipe(); fork(); some closes() and an exec() 
if it's called directly; a little more (but still no great task) to write a program 
(and it could be in perl!) to receive mail from procmail and store in the indicated 
folder (adter locking it, of course).



> 
> Anyway, I know this was a bit more than what you where asking, but I got a
> lot of ideas floating around in my head and sometimes I hafta dump them..
> hehe  I am very excited about the capabilities that the C version of CSCMail
> will have... Now I just need 30 more hours a day so I have time to write
> it...
> 

I used to use Ultimedia Mail on OS/2; stability aside, it's probably the best email 
client I've used.

A feature I sorely miss is the ability to name a folder in the address book; if I 
create an entry for Count Zero" <cou...@cy...>, I can also specify the 
folder into which I store mail I send to Count Zero.

The alternative ideas I see of storing all outgoing mail in one folder, and of not 
storing a copy anywhere, are both pretty silly from the POV of managing documents.



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Re: [Cscmail-devel] Feature request

[John S. <su...@os...>]

> I'll look into Procmail a bit more.  the way I have always used it is in
> conjunction with a local MTA.  (ie: all mail that is delivered through
> sendmail or exim or whatever gets automatically processed by procmail)
> I will have to figure out how to directly send mail to procmail... I guess
> it is as simple as piping the mail in, but again, I need to look into it.

I'm sure that IS all that's required; one can run it from the commandline:
cat ... | procmail ..
or procmail ... <
 
> What I'll do is make it an option: Use Procmail for filtering? [x]

Sounds good.
 
> The ability to sort outgoing mail based on who it is sent to sounds
> interesting.  It would certainly be easy enough to impliment.  I agree that
> it makes it much easier to see the flow of a conversation, of both halves
> are in the same folder.  I'll definately keep this suggestion in mind.

That too;-)


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Cheers
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Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index.

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Re: [Cscmail-devel] Feature request

[Count Z. <cou...@cy...>]

I'll look into Procmail a bit more.  the way I have always used it is in
conjunction with a local MTA.  (ie: all mail that is delivered through
sendmail or exim or whatever gets automatically processed by procmail)

I will have to figure out how to directly send mail to procmail... I guess
it is as simple as piping the mail in, but again, I need to look into it.
What I'll do is make it an option: Use Procmail for filtering? [x]

The ability to sort outgoing mail based on who it is sent to sounds
interesting.  It would certainly be easy enough to impliment.  I agree that
it makes it much easier to see the flow of a conversation, of both halves
are in the same folder.  I'll definately keep this suggestion in mind.

-Count Zero

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Summerfield" <su...@os...>
To: <csc...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Cscmail-devel] Feature request


> > With the C version I am using Mark Crispin's "c-client" for all mailbox
> > access.  What this allows is support for IMAP, POP, and pretty much all
> > local mailstore formats known to the Unix world (mbox, mx, mbx, tenex,
mtx,
> > mmdf, unix, mh) ... As such, I believe it solves your problem already.
It
> > will also support an extensive internal filtering mechanism that will be
> > powerful enough for 90% of our users needs without a need for something
like
> > procmail.  For users who want to use procmail anyway, I recommend they
use
> > fetchmail to retrieve their mail (NOT cscmail) and then procmail will
get a
> > chance at it during the local sendmail delivery phase (assuming procmail
is
> > setup in the default manner)  Procmail will deliver the mail to whatever
> > mailbox format you have configured on your system, and then CSCMail will
be
> > able to read that format (in your case, it sounds like mh format)
>
> There's a lot of people already have procmail filters; expecting the folk
to set upp
> fetchmail in order to use procmail isn't the most satisfactory (to the
user) way of
> addressing the need.
>
> I'd not have thought it much more than pipe(); fork(); some closes() and
an exec()
> if it's called directly; a little more (but still no great task) to write
a program
> (and it could be in perl!) to receive mail from procmail and store in the
indicated
> folder (adter locking it, of course).
>
>
>
> >
> > Anyway, I know this was a bit more than what you where asking, but I got
a
> > lot of ideas floating around in my head and sometimes I hafta dump
them..
> > hehe  I am very excited about the capabilities that the C version of
CSCMail
> > will have... Now I just need 30 more hours a day so I have time to write
> > it...
> >
>
> I used to use Ultimedia Mail on OS/2; stability aside, it's probably the
best email
> client I've used.
>
> A feature I sorely miss is the ability to name a folder in the address
book; if I
> create an entry for Count Zero" <cou...@cy...>, I can also
specify the
> folder into which I store mail I send to Count Zero.
>
> The alternative ideas I see of storing all outgoing mail in one folder,
and of not
> storing a copy anywhere, are both pretty silly from the POV of managing
documents.
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> John Summerfield
> http://www2.ami.com.au/ for OS/2 & linux information.
> Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index.
>
> Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/
>
> Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my
disposition.
>
>
>
>
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