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Re: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today

[Pablo F. <pab...@ya...>]

Ok, HTML will be able to be deactivated by ./configure
--disable-gtkxmhtml

but the webbugs you are talking about will exist
because of their nature, but
if is there anyway to deactivate it (like deactiving
js and stuff like that)
is all up to the widget, the C2HTML widget just
parents GtkHTML, GtkXmHTML
or GtkText (in case you --disable-gtkxmhtml).

Pablo.

PS. Sorry I don´t go further on this, but I´m really
hurry :)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "[Tamas]" <ta...@cr...>
To: <cro...@li...>
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 16:11
Subject: RE: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today


> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Gray, Tim wrote:
> 
> > The only thing I would remove or have an option to
disable is HTML read.  I
> > really don't want spammers to get instant
notification that I read their
> > email via webbugs, or to launch Java/JavaScript to
pop open their website.
> > (If I want to go to their stuff/let them know I
read their email I'll do it
> > manually)
> 
> > HTML get's abused more than it's worth using in
email today.
> 
> personally i do not use html mail, but lot of my
friend send me html mails
> from outlook and i want to read them. it is not my
of they coose. lot of
> company force to use html mail, and we can't really
change it.
> 
> the minimum of basic security is to disable
javascript, vbscript
> execution in mail client or the html displaying
widget (gtkhtml or mozilla
> or kde stuff)
> 
> webbugs exits, but i think, they are not so serious
as you think. :-)
> 
> about spams, i use a mail account for serious
mailing, and a hotmail for
> get spams. :) the first address of mine is on a
server where is a spam
> filter. in the last year i got 0 spam ...
> 
> 
> regards,
> tamas
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [Tamas] [mailto:ta...@cr...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:52 AM
> > To: cro...@li...
> > Subject: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today
> >
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > my friend asked me, what mail client in the
marketplace in these days for
> > linux. the i make some testing, thinking. then i
belive, cronosII should
> > be a real competitor, and these are the things,
what people and me are
> > required from a mail client:
> >   - html read and write (today i think only
netscape and mozilla capable
> > of this)
> >   - imap (folder browsing)
> >   - easy filtering, coloring
> >   - fast user interface (mozilla the worst)
> >   - easy usage with keyboard (mutt win)
> >   - central configuration and/or address book
(pine save his config in an
> > imap folder, what is like very mutch)
> >   - quote coloring
> >   - intelligent editor (golded win)
> >
> > i downladed and tried kmail of kde. it is really
nice! work very well,
> > fast, stable, html aware.
> >
> > pine is nice, but not so intelligent, and have
stupid cacheing with remote
> > folders. (news, imap)
> >
> > maybe nautilus also good, but i never had a chance
to try it.
> >
> > if i can i use mutt, because it extremly use it
with keyboard, but it is a
> > pure console mode client, and every html mail need
to call external app.
> >
> > they are my thought :-)
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > tamas
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CronosII-users mailing list
> > Cro...@li...
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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> 
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Re: [CronosII-users] Re: typo in 0.2.2

[[Tamas] <ta...@cr...>]

> Please please tell me you can download the mr1 version....

cronosII-0.2.2-mr1.tar.gz is fine on the SF! :-)

[CronosII-users] Re: typo in 0.2.2

[Peter G. <go...@ar...>]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:15:02 -0700, cro...@li... wrote:
<snip>
:>Today's Topics:
:>
:>   1. typo in cronosii.h? (Sean M. Alderman)
:>   2. Re: typo in cronosii.h? (pablo)
:>   3. the mail clients today ([Tamas])
:>   4. RE: the mail clients today (Gray, Tim)
:>   5. RE: the mail clients today ([Tamas])
:>
:>--__--__--
:>
:>Message: 1
:>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:30:55 -0400
:>From: "Sean M. Alderman" <sea...@gr...>
:>To: cro...@li...
:>Subject: [CronosII-users] typo in cronosii.h?
:>Reply-To: cro...@li...
:>
:>greets...
:>I'm attempting to setup the cronos filter plugin...  It seems that I get the following errors...
:>[49] [salderman] $make
:>gcc `gnome-config --cflags gnome gnomeui` filters.c -c
:>In file included from /usr/include/cronosII.h:28,
:>                 from filters.c:34:
:>/usr/include/cronosII/debug.h:28:22: /usr/include/cronosII is a directory
:>In file included from filters.c:34:
:>/usr/include/cronosII.h:60:30: cronosII/version.h: No such file or directory
:>/usr/include/cronosII.h:63:33: cronosII/addrbook.h: No such file or directory
:>/usr/include/cronosII.h:64:37: cronosII/gui-addrbook.h: No such file or directory
:>/usr/include/cronosII.h:68:32: cronosII/plugins.h: No such file or directory
:>make: *** [filters.o] Error 1
:>
:>strangely enough I noticed that this is correct, there is not cronosII/plugins.h...however there is a cronosII/plugin.h.
:>I also noticed a problem noted in an earlier archive that showed someone having a problem with the .tar.gz file at sourceforge...which I saw today with netscape 4.77.

Please please tell me you can download the mr1 version....
:>
:>Has anyone successfully configured everything to work properly with plugins recently?
:>
:>
This is wierd:
I have just finished trying to fix this problem. (and failing)
Yes the include has a typo (I am writing this on a version with that fixed)
However fixing the typo seems to open a can of bugs ( :) )
 Tracing through the errors brings up messages that don't check out so after trying different ways of declaring
Mailbox  *mailbox (most of which compiled but none of which made a scap of difference. I guess there is something fundamental missing?

There is another problem version.h is not getting installed (make file ??)
and there is a plugins plugin thing going on which i "solved "by copying the plugin.h to plugins.h.
 
I think Pablos idea is easiest !!!!! 
:>
:>
:>
:>--__--__--
:>
:>Message: 2
:>From:     pablo <cro...@us...>
:>To:        <cro...@li...>
:>Subject: Re: [CronosII-users] typo in cronosii.h?
:>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 02:47:48 -0700
:>Reply-To: cro...@li...
:>
:>ok, yes, this was my fault:
:>
:>install 0.2.1, install filters, install 0.2.2.
:>
:>Sorry!!!
:>
:>Hey, nice mail address! :)))
:>
:>Pablo.

Thanks mate.
Shall I/We try to fix this ??

Where are you ?
:>
:>
:>
:>
:>--__--__--
:>
:>Message: 3
:>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:51:36 +0200 (Jerusalem Standard Time)
:>From: "[Tamas]" <ta...@cr...>
:>To:  <cro...@li...>
:>Subject: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today
:>Reply-To: cro...@li...
:>
:>hi,
:>
:>my friend asked me, what mail client in the marketplace in these days for
:>linux. the i make some testing, thinking. then i belive, cronosII should
:>be a real competitor, and these are the things, what people and me are
:>required from a mail client:
:>  - html read and write (today i think only netscape and mozilla capable
:>	of this)
:>  - imap (folder browsing)
:>  - easy filtering, coloring
:>  - fast user interface (mozilla the worst)
:>  - easy usage with keyboard (mutt win)
:>  - central configuration and/or address book (pine save his config in an
:>	imap folder, what is like very mutch)
:>  - quote coloring
:>  - intelligent editor (golded win)
:>
:>i downladed and tried kmail of kde. it is really nice! work very well,
:>fast, stable, html aware.
:>
:>pine is nice, but not so intelligent, and have stupid cacheing with remote
:>folders. (news, imap)
:>
:>maybe nautilus also good, but i never had a chance to try it.
:>
:>if i can i use mutt, because it extremly use it with keyboard, but it is a
:>pure console mode client, and every html mail need to call external app.
:>
:>they are my thought :-)
:>
:>
:>regards,
:>tamas
:>
:>
:>
:>--__--__--
:>
:>Message: 4
:>From: "Gray, Tim" <Gra...@br...>
:>To: "'cro...@li...'"
:>	<cro...@li...>
:>Subject: RE: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today
:>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:02:43 -0600
:>Reply-To: cro...@li...
:>
:>The only thing I would remove or have an option to disable is HTML read.  I
:>really don't want spammers to get instant notification that I read their
:>email via webbugs, or to launch Java/JavaScript to pop open their website.
:>(If I want to go to their stuff/let them know I read their email I'll do it
:>manually)
:>
:>HTML get's abused more than it's worth using in email today.
:>
:>
Thanks Tamas. Thanks Tim Great market research. ;)
I have just sat through a *Huge* flame war on the local user group over this very issue.
Personally I agree with you. HTML should never be default. You should have to make an active choice per mail.
(or filter to /dev/null/ ?)


:<snip>
Off to install 0.2.1

petegozz
<go...@ar...>
<pet...@us...>

RE: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today

[[Tamas] <ta...@cr...>]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Gray, Tim wrote:

> The only thing I would remove or have an option to disable is HTML read.  I
> really don't want spammers to get instant notification that I read their
> email via webbugs, or to launch Java/JavaScript to pop open their website.
> (If I want to go to their stuff/let them know I read their email I'll do it
> manually)

> HTML get's abused more than it's worth using in email today.

personally i do not use html mail, but lot of my friend send me html mails
from outlook and i want to read them. it is not my of they coose. lot of
company force to use html mail, and we can't really change it.

the minimum of basic security is to disable javascript, vbscript
execution in mail client or the html displaying widget (gtkhtml or mozilla
or kde stuff)

webbugs exits, but i think, they are not so serious as you think. :-)

about spams, i use a mail account for serious mailing, and a hotmail for
get spams. :) the first address of mine is on a server where is a spam
filter. in the last year i got 0 spam ...


regards,
tamas

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [Tamas] [mailto:ta...@cr...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:52 AM
> To: cro...@li...
> Subject: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today
>
>
> hi,
>
> my friend asked me, what mail client in the marketplace in these days for
> linux. the i make some testing, thinking. then i belive, cronosII should
> be a real competitor, and these are the things, what people and me are
> required from a mail client:
>   - html read and write (today i think only netscape and mozilla capable
> 	of this)
>   - imap (folder browsing)
>   - easy filtering, coloring
>   - fast user interface (mozilla the worst)
>   - easy usage with keyboard (mutt win)
>   - central configuration and/or address book (pine save his config in an
> 	imap folder, what is like very mutch)
>   - quote coloring
>   - intelligent editor (golded win)
>
> i downladed and tried kmail of kde. it is really nice! work very well,
> fast, stable, html aware.
>
> pine is nice, but not so intelligent, and have stupid cacheing with remote
> folders. (news, imap)
>
> maybe nautilus also good, but i never had a chance to try it.
>
> if i can i use mutt, because it extremly use it with keyboard, but it is a
> pure console mode client, and every html mail need to call external app.
>
> they are my thought :-)
>
>
> regards,
> tamas
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CronosII-users mailing list
> Cro...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cronosii-users
>
>
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>

RE: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today

[Gray, T. <Gra...@br...>]

The only thing I would remove or have an option to disable is HTML read.  I
really don't want spammers to get instant notification that I read their
email via webbugs, or to launch Java/JavaScript to pop open their website.
(If I want to go to their stuff/let them know I read their email I'll do it
manually)

HTML get's abused more than it's worth using in email today.


-----Original Message-----
From: [Tamas] [mailto:ta...@cr...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:52 AM
To: cro...@li...
Subject: [CronosII-users] the mail clients today


hi,

my friend asked me, what mail client in the marketplace in these days for
linux. the i make some testing, thinking. then i belive, cronosII should
be a real competitor, and these are the things, what people and me are
required from a mail client:
  - html read and write (today i think only netscape and mozilla capable
	of this)
  - imap (folder browsing)
  - easy filtering, coloring
  - fast user interface (mozilla the worst)
  - easy usage with keyboard (mutt win)
  - central configuration and/or address book (pine save his config in an
	imap folder, what is like very mutch)
  - quote coloring
  - intelligent editor (golded win)

i downladed and tried kmail of kde. it is really nice! work very well,
fast, stable, html aware.

pine is nice, but not so intelligent, and have stupid cacheing with remote
folders. (news, imap)

maybe nautilus also good, but i never had a chance to try it.

if i can i use mutt, because it extremly use it with keyboard, but it is a
pure console mode client, and every html mail need to call external app.

they are my thought :-)


regards,
tamas


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[CronosII-users] the mail clients today

[[Tamas] <ta...@cr...>]

hi,

my friend asked me, what mail client in the marketplace in these days for
linux. the i make some testing, thinking. then i belive, cronosII should
be a real competitor, and these are the things, what people and me are
required from a mail client:
  - html read and write (today i think only netscape and mozilla capable
	of this)
  - imap (folder browsing)
  - easy filtering, coloring
  - fast user interface (mozilla the worst)
  - easy usage with keyboard (mutt win)
  - central configuration and/or address book (pine save his config in an
	imap folder, what is like very mutch)
  - quote coloring
  - intelligent editor (golded win)

i downladed and tried kmail of kde. it is really nice! work very well,
fast, stable, html aware.

pine is nice, but not so intelligent, and have stupid cacheing with remote
folders. (news, imap)

maybe nautilus also good, but i never had a chance to try it.

if i can i use mutt, because it extremly use it with keyboard, but it is a
pure console mode client, and every html mail need to call external app.

they are my thought :-)


regards,
tamas

Re: [CronosII-users] typo in cronosii.h?

[pablo <cro...@us...>]

ok, yes, this was my fault:

install 0.2.1, install filters, install 0.2.2.

Sorry!!!

Hey, nice mail address! :)))

Pablo.



De:		Sean M. Alderman <sea...@gr...>
Mandado:		Lun 09 Jul 2001  04:30 PM
Para:		cro...@li...
Título:	[CronosII-users] typo in cronosii.h?

>greets...
>I'm attempting to setup the cronos filter plugin...  It seems that I get the following errors...
>[49] [salderman] $make
>gcc `gnome-config --cflags gnome gnomeui` filters.c -c
>In file included from /usr/include/cronosII.h:28,
>                 from filters.c:34:
>/usr/include/cronosII/debug.h:28:22: /usr/include/cronosII is a directory
>In file included from filters.c:34:
>/usr/include/cronosII.h:60:30: cronosII/version.h: No such file or directory
>/usr/include/cronosII.h:63:33: cronosII/addrbook.h: No such file or directory
>/usr/include/cronosII.h:64:37: cronosII/gui-addrbook.h: No such file or directory
>/usr/include/cronosII.h:68:32: cronosII/plugins.h: No such file or directory
>make: *** [filters.o] Error 1
>
>strangely enough I noticed that this is correct, there is not cronosII/plugins.h...however there is a cronosII/plugin.h.
>I also noticed a problem noted in an earlier archive that showed someone having a problem with the .tar.gz file at sourceforge...which I 
saw today with netscape 4.77.
>
>Has anyone successfully configured everything to work properly with plugins recently?
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>CronosII-users mailing list
>Cro...@li...
>http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cronosii-users

[CronosII-users] typo in cronosii.h?

[Sean M. A. <sea...@gr...>]

greets...
I'm attempting to setup the cronos filter plugin...  It seems that I get the following errors...
[49] [salderman] $make
gcc `gnome-config --cflags gnome gnomeui` filters.c -c
In file included from /usr/include/cronosII.h:28,
                 from filters.c:34:
/usr/include/cronosII/debug.h:28:22: /usr/include/cronosII is a directory
In file included from filters.c:34:
/usr/include/cronosII.h:60:30: cronosII/version.h: No such file or directory
/usr/include/cronosII.h:63:33: cronosII/addrbook.h: No such file or directory
/usr/include/cronosII.h:64:37: cronosII/gui-addrbook.h: No such file or directory
/usr/include/cronosII.h:68:32: cronosII/plugins.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [filters.o] Error 1

strangely enough I noticed that this is correct, there is not cronosII/plugins.h...however there is a cronosII/plugin.h.
I also noticed a problem noted in an earlier archive that showed someone having a problem with the .tar.gz file at sourceforge...which I saw today with netscape 4.77.

Has anyone successfully configured everything to work properly with plugins recently?

[CronosII-users] Re: Debian Package

[Peter G. <go...@ar...>]

On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:01:23 -0700, cro...@li... wrote:
:> Send CronosII-users mailing list submissions to
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:> 
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:> 
:> 
:> Today's Topics:
:> 
:>    1. debian (-T-)
:>    2. Re: debian (Pablo =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fern=E1ndez?= Navarro)
:> 
:> --__--__--
:> 
:> Message: 1
:> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:39:42 +0200 (Jerusalem Standard Time)
:> From: -T- <ta...@te...>
:> To:  <cro...@li...>
:> Subject: [CronosII-users] debian
:> Reply-To: cro...@li...
:> 
:> hi,
:> 
:> In debian, the CronosII or CronosII-scratch is distributed?
:> 
:> ---
:> Tamas
:> 
:> 
:> 
:> --__--__--
:> 
:> Message: 2
:> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 06:01:04 -0300
:> From: Pablo =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fern=E1ndez?= Navarro <cro...@us...>
:> To: cro...@li...
:> Subject: Re: [CronosII-users] debian
:> Reply-To: cro...@li...
:> 
:> Hi
:> 
:> Yes, but since Debian 2.3, Cronos II is in the unstable packages.
:> 
:> Pablo.
:> --
:> Pablo Fern=E1ndez Navarro          Software Development.
:> http://cronosII.sourceforge.net  The GNOME mail client.
:> 
:> ICQ: 105108434

The actual version is CronosII v0.2.2

apt-get install cronosII
Pete
Woodside South Australia
<go...@ar...>
<pet...@us...>  
should get it for you.

(That's how I got this one)

Re: [CronosII-users] debian

[Pablo N. <cro...@us...>]

Hi

Yes, but since Debian 2.3, Cronos II is in the unstable packages.

Pablo.
--
Pablo Fern=E1ndez Navarro          Software Development.
http://cronosII.sourceforge.net  The GNOME mail client.

ICQ: 105108434

On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:39:42 +0200 (Jerusalem Standard Time), -T- <tamas@=
tefensoft.co.il> wrote:
> hi,
>=20
> In debian, the CronosII or CronosII-scratch is distributed?
>=20
> ---
> Tamas
>=20
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[CronosII-users] debian

[-T- <ta...@te...>]

hi,

In debian, the CronosII or CronosII-scratch is distributed?

---
Tamas

[CronosII-users] Re: CVS -anon Password

[Peter G. <go...@ar...>]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:01:17 -0700, cro...@li... wrote:
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:> Today's Topics:
:> 
:>    1. suggestion (jcopenha)
:> 
:> --__--__--
:> 
:> Message: 1
:> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:11:43 -0400 (EDT)
:> From: jcopenha <jco...@cs...>
:> To: cro...@li...
:> Subject: [CronosII-users] suggestion
:> Reply-To: cro...@li...
:> 
:> A little suggestion.. I see that in the new cronosii you have mailbox types.. such as mysql, imap, and the default cronosii.. Maybe you should have a type for mbox  type.. the Mail direcotry in the users home directory.. It's the type that KMail and other mail clients use.. I suggest this because I've used both cronosii and KMail .. so half of my archived mail i have to use KMail to read.. and everything else I use Cronos II for..
:> 
:> just a suggestion.. Also.. is there a password on the anonymous login for the cvs?
:> 
:> Jason

No you should only have to enter [enter] when asked.
Please let me know if that is NOT the case.
Pete
<pet...@us...>Pete
Woodside South Australia
<go...@ar...>
<pet...@us...>
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Re: [CronosII-users] suggestion

[Pablo N. <cro...@us...>]

Hi Jason

Thanks for this great suggestion, actually, is what I though a couple of =
days
ago and decide to replace the effort that I was going to do to have MySQL=
 support
in having spool support first (the mbox format you are talking about).

You can see the CVS (module cronosII-scratch) that this is already implem=
ented
(spool doesn't works yet, the core functions need to be written yet, but =
you
can see that it will be supported right in the UI, when you choose the ty=
pe
of mailbox.

About the CVS anonymous access, no, there's no password, just press the R=
eturn key.

Thanks for this great suggestion, Pablo.
--
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ICQ: 105108434

On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:11:43 -0400 (EDT), jcopenha <jco...@cs...=
> wrote:
> A little suggestion.. I see that in the new cronosii you have mailbox t=
ypes.. such as mysql, imap, and the default cronosii.. Maybe you should h=
ave a type for mbox  type.. the Mail direcotry in the users home director=
y.. It's the type that KMail and other mail clients use.. I suggest this =
because I've used both cronosii and KMail .. so half of my archived mail =
i have to use KMail to read.. and everything else I use Cronos II for..
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> just a suggestion.. Also.. is there a password on the anonymous login f=
or the cvs?
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[CronosII-users] suggestion

[jcopenha <jco...@cs...>]

A little suggestion.. I see that in the new cronosii you have mailbox types.. such as mysql, imap, and the default cronosii.. Maybe you should have a type for mbox  type.. the Mail direcotry in the users home directory.. It's the type that KMail and other mail clients use.. I suggest this because I've used both cronosii and KMail .. so half of my archived mail i have to use KMail to read.. and everything else I use Cronos II for.. 

just a suggestion.. Also.. is there a password on the anonymous login for the cvs?  

Jason

RE: [CronosII-users] CronosII SMTP

[Gray, T. <Gra...@br...>]

go to www.yahoo.com and set up a free email account.
Then connect to it using the following server addresses.
pop.mail.yahoo.com
smtp.mail.yahoo.com

for pop (retrieval) and smtp (sending) respectively.
This one requires a pop with a smtp connection instantly after it for
authentication...  many free email accounts/server use this kind of
authentication.

thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Fern=E1ndez Navarro [mailto:cro...@us...]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:53 PM
To: cro...@li...
Subject: Re: [CronosII-users] CronosII SMTP


I know about this lack, please, do me the favor to send
me the address of your smtp server with a username and password,
I never seen a server that need authentication (knew about 'em, just =
never
saw one).

Thanks, Pablo.
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ICQ: 105108434

On Thu, 31 May 2001 12:34:22 -0600, Gray, Tim =
<Gra...@br...>
wrote:
> My email SMTP email server requires authentication to send mail. (to =
help
in
> the thwarting of spammers and to catch accounts that spam)
>=20
> How can I make cronosII authenticate to the SMTP server?  there are =
no
> options to send username and password or any option to send the pop3
> username/password.
>=20
> Thanks.
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Re: [CronosII-users] CronosII SMTP

[Pablo N. <cro...@us...>]

I know about this lack, please, do me the favor to send
me the address of your smtp server with a username and password,
I never seen a server that need authentication (knew about 'em, just neve=
r saw one).

Thanks, Pablo.
--
Pablo Fern=E1ndez Navarro          Software Development.
http://cronosII.sourceforge.net  The GNOME mail client.

ICQ: 105108434

On Thu, 31 May 2001 12:34:22 -0600, Gray, Tim <Gra...@br...=
>  wrote:
> My email SMTP email server requires authentication to send mail. (to he=
lp in
> the thwarting of spammers and to catch accounts that spam)
>=20
> How can I make cronosII authenticate to the SMTP server?  there are no
> options to send username and password or any option to send the pop3
> username/password.
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
>=20
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> Cro...@li...
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[CronosII-users] CronosII SMTP sending help

[Gray, T. <Gra...@br...>]

My email SMTP email server requires authentication to send mail. (to help in
the thwarting of spammers and to catch accounts that spam)

How can I make cronosII authenticate to the SMTP server?  there are no
options to send username and password or any option to send the pop3
username/password.

Thanks.

[CronosII-users] Re: CronosII-users digest, Vol 1 #17 - 4 msgs

[Pete <go...@ar...>]

|:>Sorry to hear this,
|:>Oh, this Ximian fellows...

Yep and I know MUCH better than that. 
(shame on me. )<beating>gumtree branch</beating>
Now fixed . Plugins had to be reconfigured as well.
(of course when you (me) remove your .gnome directory to ... well you know...)
Oh and ps. DON'T waste your time on all that ximian stuff it's just not worth it.. 
I am now totally confused about the documentation stuff but we can just keep on as we where.
|:>
|:>> Bummer and I hadn't backed up of course.
|:>Shame, ALWAYS BACK UP WHEN PLAYING WITH DANGEROUS SOFTWARE (u know, devel=
|:>oped by Microsoft, Ximian,
|:>Eazel, etc.)
|:>
|:>>=20
|:>> Happy travels Pablo.
|:>Thanks, but, how did u know about this?
It is a very small planet.. and you posted it to the developers list  !!
|:>
|:>Anyone how leaves in Europe and wants to meet me, I'll be there from
|:>the 26/7 until 3/8 around Middle Europe and Ibiza (no, no spring break uh=
|:>u, just working!)
|:>
|:>Best regards for all, Pablo.
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|:>Pablo Fern=E1ndez Navarro          Software Development.
|:>http://cronosII.sourceforge.net  The GNOME mail client.
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|:>ICQ: 105108434
|:>

|:>
|:>hmm.. ok well..
|:>
|:>gzip -dc cronosII-0.2.2.tar.gz | tar -xvf -
|:>cronosII-0.2.2/
|:>conosII-0.2.2/Makefile.in
|:>tar: Skipping to next header
So if this is the first header it is trying to read then it may be that .... could you post me the results of 
head cronosII-0.2.2.tar.gz and 
head the bzip file ...
I will compare them to mine and see what we get..
email: <go...@ar...>
Apologies but they are OK here.
|:>
|:>gzip: cronosII-0.2.2.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated
|:>tar: Error exit delayed from previous erros
|:>
|:>same message if i user tar -zxvf cronosII-0.2.2.tar.gz
|:>
|:>not sure.. I'm using Opera to download it.. never had a problem before... and I can download the other ones just fine.. also get similiar erros when i try the bzip2 one..
bugger..
Opera is actually writing over the old downloads isn't it ??
|:>If I just try to untar it, it says it's not a tar file.. so..not having any luck here..
|:>Jason
Hmm... I can't see what you may be doing wrong..
I hope this is not a rude question (and it shouldn't make any difference) but you are not downloading with Widoze are you.. ) If you are and you have Winzip it may be doing some awfull thing to your file..
Nah ..
Very strange.. Try : man bzip2 and check out the repair stuff..
I shouldn't think it is Opera. In fact it is mor
--
Justice always prevails ... three times out of seven!
		-- Michael J. Wagner
Peter Gossner
Woodside, South Australia.
<go...@ar...>
<pet...@us...>



e likely to be sourceforge but then The file I downloaded would be corrupt as well. 

HELP anybody else got more of a clue ??
Pete..

Re: [CronosII-users] Re: CronosII-users digest, Vol 1 #16 - 1 msg

[Pablo N. <cro...@us...>]

Hi there!

On Tue, 22 May 2001 07:23:40 +0930, Pete <go...@ar...> wrote:
> I will check that out and replace it if correct.
>=20
> Pete.
>=20
> Hey while I'm here has anybody else lost their address book contents af=
ter installing Ximian gnome ??
Sorry to hear this,
Oh, this Ximian fellows...

> Bummer and I hadn't backed up of course.
Shame, ALWAYS BACK UP WHEN PLAYING WITH DANGEROUS SOFTWARE (u know, devel=
oped by Microsoft, Ximian,
Eazel, etc.)

>=20
> Happy travels Pablo.
Thanks, but, how did u know about this?

Anyone how leaves in Europe and wants to meet me, I'll be there from
the 26/7 until 3/8 around Middle Europe and Ibiza (no, no spring break uh=
u, just working!)

Best regards for all, Pablo.
--
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http://cronosII.sourceforge.net  The GNOME mail client.

ICQ: 105108434

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> --
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> On Mon, 21 May 2001 12:01:27 -0700, cro...@li...=
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> |:>Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:24:53 -0400 (EDT)
> |:>From: jcopenha <jco...@cs...>
> |:>To: cro...@li...
> |:>Subject: [CronosII-users] CronosII 0.2.2
> |:>Reply-To: cro...@li...
> |:>
> |:>Hmm.. I've having trouble getting the cronosii-0.2.2.tar.gz file to =
uncompress.. For some reason it fails.. is it possbile the one on SourceF=
orge is corrupted??
> |:>
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[CronosII-users] Re: CronosII-users digest, Vol 1 #16 - 1 msg

[Pete <go...@ar...>]

I will check that out and replace it if correct.

Pete.

Hey while I'm here has anybody else lost their address book contents after installing Ximian gnome ??
Bummer and I hadn't backed up of course.

Happy travels Pablo.

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On Mon, 21 May 2001 12:01:27 -0700, cro...@li... wrote:
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|:>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
|:>	cro...@li...
|:>
|:>You can reach the person managing the list at
|:>	cro...@li...
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|:>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
|:>than "Re: Contents of CronosII-users digest..."
|:>
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|:>Today's Topics:
|:>
|:>   1. CronosII 0.2.2 (jcopenha)
|:>
|:>--__--__--
|:>
|:>Message: 1
|:>Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:24:53 -0400 (EDT)
|:>From: jcopenha <jco...@cs...>
|:>To: cro...@li...
|:>Subject: [CronosII-users] CronosII 0.2.2
|:>Reply-To: cro...@li...
|:>
|:>Hmm.. I've having trouble getting the cronosii-0.2.2.tar.gz file to uncompress.. For some reason it fails.. is it possbile the one on SourceForge is corrupted??
|:>
|:>Jason
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[CronosII-users] CronosII 0.2.2

[jcopenha <jco...@cs...>]

Hmm.. I've having trouble getting the cronosii-0.2.2.tar.gz file to uncompress.. For some reason it fails.. is it possbile the one on SourceForge is corrupted??

Jason

Re: [CronosII-users] A bug?

[Pablo N. <cro...@us...>]

Well, this seems to be a bug, but anyway, c2 is being rewritten, so it wi=
ll get fixed (hopelly).

All other things you want are probably going to be supported:
o IMAP,
o switches (--compose)
o Changes in the layout (actually, you will be able to redesign the whole=
 c2 through glade).
o Message rules (it's already done as a plugin, check the c2 website).


(keep reading below)

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:28:32 -0700, Peter <pr...@ho...> wrote:
> Hi all
>=20
> I'm a new user of Cronos and very pleased so far.
>=20
> However, I don't know if i found a bug or not. I got a bounce after sen=
ding a mail to xerox, and everytime Cronos tried to display this message =
it crashed. In a moment of temporary blackout I managed to remove some ma=
ils, making the xerox-mail the one to always display at start, which made=
 cronos crash everytime I started it. I solved this by moving the mail (i=
n my case: $HOME/.CronosII/Inbox.mbx/29) to another location, and startin=
g Cronos again. The mail was still displayed in the list, but containing =
nothing and I could safely delete it.
>=20
> I'm using a pop3 account with the option to leave mails on server enabl=
ed. Attached is an edited version of the 29-file, which was the guilty ma=
il, just in case some cronos-developer should wish to try and debug.
>=20
> Another thing, will I get flamed for proposing stuff but not being able=
 to code it myself? I'll take my chances, please try and view this as som=
e friendly suggestions
> First of all, IMAP-support! But I guess thats high on your priroritylis=
t already.
> Being able to call the cronos binary with switches would be great for i=
ntegrating it with other programs (the gnome url-handler comes to mind). =
For example "cronos --compose so...@ma..." could launch only a composer=
 window. The possibilities are endless.
> The option to change views, like the Pan newsreader where you can choos=
e the layout of the three windows. I miss this in Cronos.
> Rules-support, automagically putting incoming mails in other folders th=
an the Inbox would be handy for mailinglists and friends.
>=20
> Which reminds me of another problem I'm having, I added a second pop3 m=
ailaccount but selected another Mailbox than Inbox under the "Mailbox"-ta=
b. However, the mails of that account are still being dropped in my Inbox=
. What's wrong?
I can't understand what's wrong with this, I use that option A LOT...
Maybe for the next version...

>=20
> Again, thanks for a really great program, but nothing's good enough not=
 to be improved :)
Well, thanks for having that concept of Cronos II, we work really hard to=
 get where we are now,
and we are working harder to move on...

Best Regards and thanks for the kind words, Pablo.
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ICQ: 105108434
>=20
> Best regards,
> 	Peter

[CronosII-users] A bug?

[Peter <pr...@ho...>]

Hi all

I'm a new user of Cronos and very pleased so far.

However, I don't know if i found a bug or not. I got a bounce after sending a mail to xerox, and everytime Cronos tried to display this message it crashed. In a moment of temporary blackout I managed to remove some mails, making the xerox-mail the one to always display at start, which made cronos crash everytime I started it. I solved this by moving the mail (in my case: $HOME/.CronosII/Inbox.mbx/29) to another location, and starting Cronos again. The mail was still displayed in the list, but containing nothing and I could safely delete it.

I'm using a pop3 account with the option to leave mails on server enabled. Attached is an edited version of the 29-file, which was the guilty mail, just in case some cronos-developer should wish to try and debug.

Another thing, will I get flamed for proposing stuff but not being able to code it myself? I'll take my chances, please try and view this as some friendly suggestions
First of all, IMAP-support! But I guess thats high on your priroritylist already.
Being able to call the cronos binary with switches would be great for integrating it with other programs (the gnome url-handler comes to mind). For example "cronos --compose so...@ma..." could launch only a composer window. The possibilities are endless.
The option to change views, like the Pan newsreader where you can choose the layout of the three windows. I miss this in Cronos.
Rules-support, automagically putting incoming mails in other folders than the Inbox would be handy for mailinglists and friends.

Which reminds me of another problem I'm having, I added a second pop3 mailaccount but selected another Mailbox than Inbox under the "Mailbox"-tab. However, the mails of that account are still being dropped in my Inbox. What's wrong?

Again, thanks for a really great program, but nothing's good enough not to be improved :)

Best regards,
	Peter

[CronosII-users] Fw: [CronosII-developer] Rpm available for testing

[Pablo N. <cro...@us...>]

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:39:42 +0930, Pete <go...@ar...> wrote:
>=20
> G'day Chaps,
> I tried to send this earlier using the Queue:
> 	and got an error suggesting I was trying to get Mailman to do somethin=
g other than post the mail..
> 	hmmm... (not going there)
>=20
> However there is a Redhat 7 rpm available from the ftp site should anyb=
ody need such a thing.
>=20
> The other news is that I should have most of the documentation updated =
and on CVS very soon.
> We have been having power supply problems here which is really good for=
 corrupting file sysytems...
> If anybody wants anything in particular in the Manuals (User, developer=
, Addressbook(not started yet)) please let me know
> and I will do the SGML thing to it.
> 	On that subject I would appreciate any thoughts on when we should (or =
if ) jump to the Scroll Keeper system I reckon we can afford to wait a bi=
t yet.
>=20
> This next version of the manual is ver 2.2.0 and I would hope to have 2=
.2.2 ready for the next stable release.
> Which would cover all features of Cronos as I find it now (version0.2.2=
). I think the only thing I cannot test (and break =3D=3D> learn) is the =
new SMTP functions any info on why , how etc would be appreciated.. (does=
 this just call SendMail for example ??) I have a running version of 0.2.=
2 with the new manual and some spell checking on the .c files working as =
I type if anybody would like this I will happilly bzip it to you. It woul=
d be a few hundred K I expect.
>=20
> The only bug I have found is a strange gui (lockup) that has occurred t=
wice when I send the Queued mail before I fetch mail from the remote (ISP=
) pop server.. Not critical and a restart solves the problem no worries.
>=20
> Oh I will update the web version of the manual this week as well (i jus=
t have to do a new image map and upload the html)..
>=20
> Peter
> --
> Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow.
> Peter Gossner
> Woodside, South Australia.
> <go...@ar...> <pet...@us...>
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ICQ: 105108434

Re: [CronosII-users] where is my mail stored?

[Pablo N. <cro...@us...>]

Hi

Yes, Cronos II saves your mails in $HOME/.CronosII

Hope this helps, Pablo.
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ICQ: 105108434

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:04:22 +0200 (CEST), Tobias Fritz <tobias.fritz@gmx=
.net> wrote:
> Hi there,
>=20
> anybody knows where cronosII saves my mail?? (Netscape 4.X for example =
was
> saving it in $HOME/nsmail)
> (maybe this question already has been answered before, but the archive =
is not
> accessible since hours (Geocrawler is down for nightly database mainten=
ance
> Please check back in 10-15 minutes. We're sorry for the inconvenience. =
BLABLA))
>=20
> thanks
> Tobias
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