Re: [Crawl-ref-discuss] Too many inventory items these days, meld some

[Johanna P. <joh...@go...>]

> !resist is also a very inelegant (bad?) design, for similar reasons!

I would argue that !resist is an awesome potion precisely because it's
powerful and rare, which forces you to make decisions: If you really only
need, say, FR _right now_ (but badly!), you'd "waste" all the other
resistances the potion would also grant. Thematically, combining all
resistances also works.

I agree that including stat boosts as well might be too much. Taken to the
extreme you could merge !resist + !healing + !power into a single "escape
dire situation" one.

However, I don't see anything wrong with merging the stat boost potions
into a single one to follow the !resist example.


On 31 May 2017 at 02:26, Nicholas Feinberg <ple...@gm...> wrote:

> !resist is also a very inelegant (bad?) design, for similar reasons!
>
> On 30 May 2017 at 17:24, David Ploog <dp...@ma...> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 May 2017, Nicholas Feinberg wrote:
>>
>> If you want to reduce inventory item types to reduce inventory pressure, I
>>> would strongly consider just removing types, rather than combining them
>>> willy-nilly.
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't think that combining !might, !agility, !brilliance is
>> willy-nilly: use of the latter is quite disjoint from the first two. Next,
>> these are *good* items (like many consumables), because they create good
>> decisions. I believe that a combined potion would produce a very similar
>> type of choice, at reduced inventory cost.
>>
>> Is a potion with three different unrelated effects really a good design,
>>> something that would be added to the game on its own merits? Or is it
>>> just
>>> an appeal to crawl's history?
>>>
>>
>> I can resort to hyperbole as well: why does !resist provide a bunch of
>> different effects (but not MR+)? Surely we should have !rF+ etc.
>>
>>
>> David
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