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[Crackerjack-users 00077] Re: [Crackerjack-devel] [RFC] [PROPOSAL:: LTP MINI SUMMIT] [OLS2009] Should d
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From: <his...@hi...> - 2009-03-10 02:30:38
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Hi, I am working on Crackerjack project. Both in Portland and in OLS seem to be difficult, I think. I prefer Plumbers, because as Greg said developers from libc to kernel would join this meeting, and other test project would join Plumbers.. LTP has a lot of layers of test cases, I think Plumbers would provide good opportunity to talk with them. I am also starting to have Test summit in this October in Japan. Because Kernel Summit followed by 3 days Conference will be held in Japan, I think this is a good opportunity that test engineers, especially who are located in Asian area, can talk / discuss with Kernel Engineers. So, my idea is having Test Summit in both Portland and Japan. What about this idea ? Hashimoto Hisashi >On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:08:02PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Friday 27 February 2009 22:11:07 Greg KH wrote: >> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:03:30PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > > On Friday 27 February 2009 21:05:32 Michael Kerrisk wrote: >> > > > On 2/27/09, Subrata Modak <su...@li...> wrote: >> > > > > The Linux Test project has been in existence for many years, and, the >> > > > > benefits of this Project has been well established. However, due to >> > > > > several reasons the developers/stakeholders of this project has never >> > > > > meet face to face. Hence, i would like to propose a Mini Summit for >> > > > > LTP on the sidelines of the OLS 2009, scheduled to be held at >> > > > > Montreal, Canada, July 13th-17th, 2009 >> > > > > (http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2009/). >> > > > > >> > > > > The proposal for mini summit has been accepted in principle by the >> > > > > OLS committee. Since, there are no specific summit/meet/conference >> > > > > for LTP developers, this is a very good opportunity for LTP >> > > > > developers to meet side-by-side the OLS, as many of them will be >> > > > > coming to attend/present in the OLS. We can meet and discuss various >> > > > > issues relating to LTP in the same meet, some of them being: >> > > > > >> > > > > i) Presentation/discussion by developers/testers/users on various >> > > > > issues on test infrastructure/environment/test cases. Here we plan to >> > > > > abreast ourselves with several of such issues, and, somebody can take >> > > > > the responsibility for those line item(s), >> > > > > ii) Presentation/discussion by developers/testers/users on what they >> > > > > contributed to LTP, and, what they plan to do in near/far future, >> > > > > iii) Presentation/discussion by Maintainer of the present situation >> > > > > of LTP, and, what he might expect from the community to take this >> > > > > forward, iv) Presentation/discussion by Maintainer on how to increase >> > > > > LTP penetration in other areas (archs, etc) of Linux testing, like >> > > > > the Z-linux, embedded hardware, etc, >> > > > > v) How best to leverage on Project Collaboration like Crackerjack to >> > > > > LTP porting of tests, >> > > > > vi) Other proposals(if any) from the community is also to be >> > > > > discussed. >> > > > > >> > > > > I have discussed this with Andrew J Hutton of OLS committee. He has >> > > > > agreed in principle to lend us a room/accessories to conduct the Mini >> > > > > Summit, provided there are enough attendance of a minimum of 10 >> > > > > people. >> > > > > >> > > > > If all/some of you agree and feel that it would be great for all of >> > > > > us to meet, and we have the enough nos. i can talk to Andrew to >> > > > > confirm a berth for us. >> > > > > >> > > > > Please feel free to propose new agenda and comment on the proposed >> > > > > agenda. >> > > > >> > > > This is a little OT, but I wonder: might this not be better targeted >> > > > at the Plumbers Conference in Portland? It's very much an ecosystem >> > > > topic, which I imagine would be a good fit (see >> > > > http://lwn.net/Articles/319215/ ). Assuming it was a fit, then there >> > > > could actually be a microconf track devoted to the topic. Since >> > > > Plumbers is explicitly a developer oriented conference, and is >> > > > doubling up with LinuxCon, it might be that more potential interested >> > > > parties are at that conference than OLS. (Speaking personally at >> > > > least, if I manage to make it to just one of these, then Plumbers is >> > > > probably the more likely of the two.) >> > > >> > > i'm not so sure ... i see LTP targeting more the low level libc/kernel >> > > interface. the plumbers sit on top of that and LTP doesnt really target >> > > the plumbing layer ... >> > >> > Um, the "plumbers" include the libc / kernel developers, so I think that >> > is a direct target audience :) >> >> like i said, i'm *not* saying both cannot be done. i just think the LS makes >> more sense if there's only going to be one. but maybe i view plumbers as >> sitting higher up the stack than other people (and reality :p). plus, Subrata >> is doing the hard work ... i'm the lazy one. > >My view is that Plumbers is neither higher nor lower in the stack than >LS, but rather that Plumbers has a specific focus on things that involve >multiple layers of the stack. Testing of multiple layers of the stack >seems to me to be pretty important, as a number of the bugs that have >hidden the longest involve interactions between multiple layers. > > Thanx, Paul > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA >-OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise >-Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation >-Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD >http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >_______________________________________________ >Crackerjack-devel mailing list >Cra...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crackerjack-devel > Hisashi Hashimoto Section Manager Open Source Software Promotion Center Platform Software Hitachi, Ltd., Software Division Tel : +81-45-862-8424, Fax : +81-45-862-9047 his...@hi... |
