Re: [Cppcms-users] IRC Chat ??

[augustin <aug...@ov...>]

On Wednesday 24 August 2011 05:45:43 am Daniel Rios wrote:
> Hello there!
> It just came to my mind, what if we create an IRC chat room, for all
>  cppmcms users??  The pros will be: - Fast feedback with new users who are
>  looking for simple basic questions. Lets say installation and server
>  configuration.- Start a Cppcms users community. Sounds interesting , what
>  do you think?
> 


I think it's a bad idea. 

You didn't list the cons:

1- Fast feedback? Feedback is currently almost 100% provided by Artyom, and he 
is usually fast.  He won't be any faster on IRC. 

2- One more channel to monitor to stay abreast of CPPCMS development: no 
thanks!

3- Do we really need to register to Facebook (Yuck!) or yet other places to 
stay with the community?

4- Would there be automatic IRC chat logs publicly available?? I keep a local 
copy of the mailing list archives, which is very handy when I need to look 
back on something that was already discussed. There are also nice, publicly 
available mailing list archives.

5- As long as people don't get into the habit of feeding back the information 
into the wiki, the IRC channel would be a memory hole where useful information 
will get lost.... and the same questions will have to be asked all over again, 
thereby increasing Artyom's workload.

6- I'm glad that the CPPCMS community is growing, but it is not yet very big: 
barely a dozen regular posters on the mailing list. It doesn't feel crowed, 
yet!

7- Which time zone? What time? IRC is interesting when you want to have a live 
chat. Personally, I live in the (free and democratic) Republic of China 
(=Taiwan). There is at least one or two friends from the other China (the 
People's Republic of China, ruled by the Chinese Communist Party). Artyom is 
from the Middle East. There are certainly other members from elsewhere in 
Europe or the Americas. So, at what time do we meet??? 
In that  case, IRC actually reduces the probabilities of getting feedback. The 
mailing list allows everyone to read the messages and reply at a time of their 
own choosing.

8- Have you tried pasting whole blocks of code on IRC? In a mailing list, you 
can easily post code and comment on it in the same email. With IRC, one has to 
rely on yet another third party service to post code.

9- Paradigm Shift's comment on this thread is interesting. His position is 
similar to mine (see 5 above), regarding the proper use of the wiki. If I 
could be confident that the askers would systematically feedback the answers 
into the wiki, I would feel differently about this proposal. But I very much 
doubt it will happen, and I strongly feel the CPPCMS community has much to 
lose with exclusive IRC chats.

Having said that, the internet is a free place: go ahead if you wish. 
I personally hope Artyom will stay here, where he's can be followed much more 
easily.


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