Re: [Cppcms-users] cppcms build problems

[Markus R. <us...@ma...>]

Artyom wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>> I see that you use cmake for boost.locale - are you
>> planning to use it for
>> cppcms too?
> 
> Unfortunatly I think I would have to. There is no other
> way to support MSVC, I may want to in future.

I don't care about windows, but I still look forward to see cmake :-)

>> - separate build directory
> 
> No problems to do this with autotools as well.
> 
> To be honest... For me cmake is far behind autotools.
> It misses lots of features:
> 
> -  Even simple and frequent things like "AC_SEARCH_LIBS",
>    AC_TRY_COMPILE become very inconvinient.

Searching for libs is very easy - if there is already support for it. It is
also often done without pkg-config. Something like
find_package(Boost 1.34 REQUIRED COMPONENTS thread date_time program_options
regex filesystem)
may be enough.

For detection of boost (and many graphic libs) you can take a look at the
sourcecode of performous.org. I think about 30% of their source code is
cmake code - mostly checkers for many libraries.

> -  Support of static/shared builds, is very unfriendly.

I think thats taste - I found libtool unfriendly.

> -  Switching compilers works very bad

Ok, I have no experience on that.

> -  Documentation total crap, seriously.

Documenation could be always improved.

> -  Shared Objects versioning is quite bad and non standard

Isn't that the programmers job?

> -  Unintall support is none.

Mmmh, I would say its better because you can make native packages which
uninstall really clean. make uninstall is always a hassle, because it does
not work on other versions than the one you used for installation.

> CMake may be good for Windows programming but it does not fit
> well in Unix world too good -- and this is my primary target
> platform.
> 
> In any case I'm still checking if CMake fits my needs at all.
> 
> Bottom line, if you do not care about Windows, autotools
> still are best.

autotools have a greater beginners barrier. You need to learn a lot about
portable shell, m4, Makefile, Makefile.in (and maybe Makefile.am)...

For cmake you basically only need to learn the very easy syntax:
http://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/syntax.html


Btw. have you already read
http://www.rrsd.com/software_development/boost/oopsla05.pdf

It might help you.
Markus

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