cppcms-users

[Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Christian G. <chr...@gm...>]

Hi all.

cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not sure if
that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?

greets
--
Christian Gmeiner, MSc

https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner

Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Artyom B. <art...@ya...>]

I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see too much commits. Artyom Beilis
--------------
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CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
 
      From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
 To: cpp...@li... 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
 Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
   
Hi all.

cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not sure if
that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?

greets
--
Christian Gmeiner, MSc

https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner

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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Christian G. <chr...@gm...>]

Hi

2015-03-18 9:11 GMT+01:00 Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>:
> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>

That is really no problem for me. I like this attitude to finish stuff
before they hit
productive use.

> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see too
> much commits.
>

Some years ago - yes sounds brutal - I added a patch which got added
to cppcms (trunk only).
So I got you to merge a patch, which is great, but there is no
released version of cppcms with
this patch in, which is bad.

http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/patches/13/

Thats what makes me feel bad about cppcms. I think it would a good
thing to release more often
with less features. Maybe also fixing compiler warnings would be cool.
I can look into it, but
it is not as easy as with other FOSS projects to get patches accepted
and into an released version.

> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:   http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
> To: cpp...@li...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> Hi all.
>
> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not sure
> if
> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>

greets
--
Christian Gmeiner, MSc

https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner

Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Artyom B. <art...@ya...>]

Ok...
The reason the patch isn't in because it is API change that minor release should not include. 
But in general the version is quite stable.

I have following important things I want to add to 1.2

1. multiple event loops - should give important performance boost and solve bottleneck there2. redesign mounting/generation application concept.3. support of event loop access before the post data is uploaded (for stuff like upload meters)4. Plugin - we have some significant improvements as it is possible to generate headers for templates but some more stuff is required to be fully useful5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be more efficient in file serving. The rest of the stuff there http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_tasks#CppCMS.1.1.0.-.Next.Releasecan really wait.
Now I can postpone some of the stuff to 1.4 but that means that these features would be postponed even more.
Also multiple event loops is important but I can postpone it to 1.4. 2-3 are very important changes and very connected I really want them in 1.2 but they also can waitI think that 4 and 5 are smaller and very important to get them to 1.2... also they aren't "big" features. But requested ones.
To implement 2 and 3 and to some degree 1 I need to redesign entire mounting/application factory concept.
(a) factory for per-event-loop fir async-apps(b) mounting option for pre-POST processing application handling.(c) change application "generation" point from event loop to the thread pool such that there would be no more applications than threads (it is current design issue that should be fixed)
So....
Community: YOUR OPINION NEEDED...
Artyom Beilis
--------------
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CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
 
      From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
 To: Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>; cpp...@li... 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
   
Hi

2015-03-18 9:11 GMT+01:00 Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>:
> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>

That is really no problem for me. I like this attitude to finish stuff
before they hit
productive use.

> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see too
> much commits.
>

Some years ago - yes sounds brutal - I added a patch which got added
to cppcms (trunk only).
So I got you to merge a patch, which is great, but there is no
released version of cppcms with
this patch in, which is bad.

http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/patches/13/

Thats what makes me feel bad about cppcms. I think it would a good
thing to release more often
with less features. Maybe also fixing compiler warnings would be cool.
I can look into it, but
it is not as easy as with other FOSS projects to get patches accepted
and into an released version.



> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
> To: cpp...@li...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> Hi all.
>
> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not sure
> if
> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>

greets
--
Christian Gmeiner, MSc

https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner

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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Marius C. <mf...@gm...>]

 I ( and maybe others ) would like to help but I guess the entry point
is a bit too high, I certainly don't know enough about the design of
CppCMS to be able to implement a significant feature. However if
properly broken down into smaller bits I believe it's doable.
 Of course this would mean different coding styles and you'd have to
review the work, make suggestions.

 Of all these new features 1. multiple event loops - should give
important performance boost and solve bottleneck there sound the most
important to me.

While this :
5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be
more efficient in file serving.

 sounds like something I'd like to work on and it would probably be
easier ( hopefully ) than the rest of the core CppCMS work. Maybe
using this Proxygen, a collection of C++ HTTP libraries, including an
easy-to-use HTTP server would be an idea ?

 I know you really like SVN but if CppCMS ever goes the multiple
developers route then something like GitHub is probably better.





On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
> Ok...
>
> The reason the patch isn't in because it is API change that minor release
> should not include.
>
> But in general the version is quite stable.
>
> I have following important things I want to add to 1.2
>
> 1. multiple event loops - should give important performance boost and solve
> bottleneck there
> 2. redesign mounting/generation application concept.
> 3. support of event loop access before the post data is uploaded (for stuff
> like upload meters)
> 4. Plugin - we have some significant improvements as it is possible to
> generate headers for templates but some more stuff is required to be fully
> useful
> 5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be more
> efficient in file serving.
>
> The rest of the stuff there
> http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_tasks#CppCMS.1.1.0.-.Next.Release
> can really wait.
>
> Now I can postpone some of the stuff to 1.4 but that means that these
> features would be postponed even more.
>
> Also multiple event loops is important but I can postpone it to 1.4.
> 2-3 are very important changes and very connected I really want them in 1.2
> but they also can wait
> I think that 4 and 5 are smaller and very important to get them to 1.2...
> also they aren't "big" features. But requested ones.
>
> To implement 2 and 3 and to some degree 1 I need to redesign entire
> mounting/application factory concept.
>
> (a) factory for per-event-loop fir async-apps
> (b) mounting option for pre-POST processing application handling.
> (c) change application "generation" point from event loop to the thread pool
> such that there would be no more applications than threads (it is current
> design issue that should be fixed)
>
> So....
>
> Community: YOUR OPINION NEEDED...
>
> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:   http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
> To: Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>; cpp...@li...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> Hi
>
> 2015-03-18 9:11 GMT+01:00 Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>:
>> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>>
>
> That is really no problem for me. I like this attitude to finish stuff
> before they hit
> productive use.
>
>> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see
>> too
>> much commits.
>>
>
> Some years ago - yes sounds brutal - I added a patch which got added
> to cppcms (trunk only).
> So I got you to merge a patch, which is great, but there is no
> released version of cppcms with
> this patch in, which is bad.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/patches/13/
>
> Thats what makes me feel bad about cppcms. I think it would a good
> thing to release more often
> with less features. Maybe also fixing compiler warnings would be cool.
> I can look into it, but
> it is not as easy as with other FOSS projects to get patches accepted
> and into an released version.
>
>
>
>
>> Artyom Beilis
>> --------------
>> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
>> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
>> To: cpp...@li...
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
>> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not
>> sure
>> if
>> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>>
>
> greets
> --
> Christian Gmeiner, MSc
>
> https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner
>
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Artyom B. <art...@ya...>]

Regarding the internal HTTP server.
It requires following features:
- File serving - simple stuff - changes in internal_file_server  (a) make text only sanitizing of URLs (for next step)  (b) make symlinks resolution optional, improve the performance  (c) make it asynchronous (optional)- Support of HTTPS - complex - mostly at booster::aio level - implement asynchronous/synchronous ssl "socket" and integrate it into http_api.cpp - Support HTTP/1.1 - very complex - at http_api.cpp level
  (a) keep-alive  (b) chunked transfer encoding  (c) pipelining  (d) more...- Support of Web Sockets -  very complex - probably requires first to implement HTTP/1.1 and design WebSocket API at cppcms::context() level.


Now... you can't really use the libraries you suggested because
(a) internal HTTP server works withing CppCMS internal event loop and any library should be integrated INTO the event loop rather than CppCMS would use external HTTP library(b) CppCMS has very strict policy on introduction of new dependencies: http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_coding_standards#Libraries  
So basically you need to implement the HTTP stuff yourself.
The file serving is handled by this code: http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/code/HEAD/tree/framework/trunk/src/internal_file_server.cpp  It can be significantly improved...
Regarding SVN... so far there were too few people who wanted to contribute.The conversion isn't easy as many automatic tools work with svn (release stuff, nightly builds etc)
Also you can always use git-svn.
Artyom Beilis
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CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
 
      From: Marius Cirsta <mf...@gm...>
 To: cpp...@li... 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
   
 I ( and maybe others ) would like to help but I guess the entry point
is a bit too high, I certainly don't know enough about the design of
CppCMS to be able to implement a significant feature. However if
properly broken down into smaller bits I believe it's doable.
 Of course this would mean different coding styles and you'd have to
review the work, make suggestions.

 Of all these new features 1. multiple event loops - should give
important performance boost and solve bottleneck there sound the most
important to me.

While this :
5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be
more efficient in file serving.

 sounds like something I'd like to work on and it would probably be
easier ( hopefully ) than the rest of the core CppCMS work. Maybe
using this Proxygen, a collection of C++ HTTP libraries, including an
easy-to-use HTTP server would be an idea ?

 I know you really like SVN but if CppCMS ever goes the multiple
developers route then something like GitHub is probably better.





On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
> Ok...
>
> The reason the patch isn't in because it is API change that minor release
> should not include.
>
> But in general the version is quite stable.
>
> I have following important things I want to add to 1.2
>
> 1. multiple event loops - should give important performance boost and solve
> bottleneck there
> 2. redesign mounting/generation application concept.
> 3. support of event loop access before the post data is uploaded (for stuff
> like upload meters)
> 4. Plugin - we have some significant improvements as it is possible to
> generate headers for templates but some more stuff is required to be fully
> useful
> 5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be more
> efficient in file serving.
>
> The rest of the stuff there
> http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_tasks#CppCMS.1.1.0.-.Next.Release
> can really wait.
>
> Now I can postpone some of the stuff to 1.4 but that means that these
> features would be postponed even more.
>
> Also multiple event loops is important but I can postpone it to 1.4.
> 2-3 are very important changes and very connected I really want them in 1.2
> but they also can wait
> I think that 4 and 5 are smaller and very important to get them to 1.2...
> also they aren't "big" features. But requested ones.
>
> To implement 2 and 3 and to some degree 1 I need to redesign entire
> mounting/application factory concept.
>
> (a) factory for per-event-loop fir async-apps
> (b) mounting option for pre-POST processing application handling.
> (c) change application "generation" point from event loop to the thread pool
> such that there would be no more applications than threads (it is current
> design issue that should be fixed)
>
> So....
>
> Community: YOUR OPINION NEEDED...
>
> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
> To: Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>; cpp...@li...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> Hi
>
> 2015-03-18 9:11 GMT+01:00 Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>:
>> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>>
>
> That is really no problem for me. I like this attitude to finish stuff
> before they hit
> productive use.
>
>> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see
>> too
>> much commits.
>>
>
> Some years ago - yes sounds brutal - I added a patch which got added
> to cppcms (trunk only).
> So I got you to merge a patch, which is great, but there is no
> released version of cppcms with
> this patch in, which is bad.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/patches/13/
>
> Thats what makes me feel bad about cppcms. I think it would a good
> thing to release more often
> with less features. Maybe also fixing compiler warnings would be cool.
> I can look into it, but
> it is not as easy as with other FOSS projects to get patches accepted
> and into an released version.
>
>
>
>
>> Artyom Beilis
>> --------------
>> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
>> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
>> To: cpp...@li...
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
>> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not
>> sure
>> if
>> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>>
>
> greets
> --
> Christian Gmeiner, MSc
>
> https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner
>
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Paolo B. <pao...@gm...>]

I find praiseworthy your dedication to keep cmscpp ABI compatible and
the strict policy for external deps, but it is really necessary? Is
the userbase so large that doing differently would really break things
like in KDE?

It absolutely not meant as a critic, I am asking because I don't understand.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
> Regarding the internal HTTP server.
>
> It requires following features:
>
> - File serving - simple stuff - changes in internal_file_server
>   (a) make text only sanitizing of URLs (for next step)
>   (b) make symlinks resolution optional, improve the performance
>   (c) make it asynchronous (optional)
> - Support of HTTPS - complex - mostly at booster::aio level - implement
> asynchronous/synchronous ssl "socket" and integrate it into http_api.cpp
> - Support HTTP/1.1 - very complex - at http_api.cpp level
>   (a) keep-alive
>   (b) chunked transfer encoding
>   (c) pipelining
>   (d) more...
> - Support of Web Sockets -  very complex - probably requires first to
> implement HTTP/1.1 and design WebSocket API at cppcms::context() level.
>
>
> Now... you can't really use the libraries you suggested because
>
> (a) internal HTTP server works withing CppCMS internal event loop and any
> library should be integrated INTO the event loop rather than CppCMS would
> use external HTTP library
> (b) CppCMS has very strict policy on introduction of new dependencies:
> http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_coding_standards#Libraries
>
>
> So basically you need to implement the HTTP stuff yourself.
>
> The file serving is handled by this code:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/code/HEAD/tree/framework/trunk/src/internal_file_server.cpp
>
> It can be significantly improved...
>
> Regarding SVN... so far there were too few people who wanted to contribute.
> The conversion isn't easy as many automatic tools work with svn (release
> stuff, nightly builds etc)
>
> Also you can always use git-svn.
>
> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:   http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marius Cirsta <mf...@gm...>
> To: cpp...@li...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:50 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> I ( and maybe others ) would like to help but I guess the entry point
> is a bit too high, I certainly don't know enough about the design of
> CppCMS to be able to implement a significant feature. However if
> properly broken down into smaller bits I believe it's doable.
> Of course this would mean different coding styles and you'd have to
> review the work, make suggestions.
>
> Of all these new features 1. multiple event loops - should give
> important performance boost and solve bottleneck there sound the most
> important to me.
>
> While this :
> 5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be
> more efficient in file serving.
>
> sounds like something I'd like to work on and it would probably be
> easier ( hopefully ) than the rest of the core CppCMS work. Maybe
> using this Proxygen, a collection of C++ HTTP libraries, including an
> easy-to-use HTTP server would be an idea ?
>
> I know you really like SVN but if CppCMS ever goes the multiple
> developers route then something like GitHub is probably better.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
>> Ok...
>>
>> The reason the patch isn't in because it is API change that minor release
>> should not include.
>>
>> But in general the version is quite stable.
>>
>> I have following important things I want to add to 1.2
>>
>> 1. multiple event loops - should give important performance boost and
>> solve
>> bottleneck there
>> 2. redesign mounting/generation application concept.
>> 3. support of event loop access before the post data is uploaded (for
>> stuff
>> like upload meters)
>> 4. Plugin - we have some significant improvements as it is possible to
>> generate headers for templates but some more stuff is required to be fully
>> useful
>> 5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be more
>> efficient in file serving.
>>
>> The rest of the stuff there
>>
>> http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_tasks#CppCMS.1.1.0.-.Next.Release
>> can really wait.
>>
>> Now I can postpone some of the stuff to 1.4 but that means that these
>> features would be postponed even more.
>>
>> Also multiple event loops is important but I can postpone it to 1.4.
>> 2-3 are very important changes and very connected I really want them in
>> 1.2
>> but they also can wait
>> I think that 4 and 5 are smaller and very important to get them to 1.2...
>> also they aren't "big" features. But requested ones.
>>
>> To implement 2 and 3 and to some degree 1 I need to redesign entire
>> mounting/application factory concept.
>>
>> (a) factory for per-event-loop fir async-apps
>> (b) mounting option for pre-POST processing application handling.
>> (c) change application "generation" point from event loop to the thread
>> pool
>> such that there would be no more applications than threads (it is current
>> design issue that should be fixed)
>>
>> So....
>>
>> Community: YOUR OPINION NEEDED...
>>
>> Artyom Beilis
>> --------------
>> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
>> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
>> To: Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>;
>> cpp...@li...
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> 2015-03-18 9:11 GMT+01:00 Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>:
>>> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>>>
>>
>> That is really no problem for me. I like this attitude to finish stuff
>> before they hit
>> productive use.
>>
>>> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see
>>> too
>>> much commits.
>>>
>>
>> Some years ago - yes sounds brutal - I added a patch which got added
>> to cppcms (trunk only).
>> So I got you to merge a patch, which is great, but there is no
>> released version of cppcms with
>> this patch in, which is bad.
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/patches/13/
>>
>> Thats what makes me feel bad about cppcms. I think it would a good
>> thing to release more often
>> with less features. Maybe also fixing compiler warnings would be cool.
>> I can look into it, but
>> it is not as easy as with other FOSS projects to get patches accepted
>> and into an released version.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Artyom Beilis
>>> --------------
>>> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
>>> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
>>> To: cpp...@li...
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
>>> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not
>>> sure
>>> if
>>> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>>>
>>
>> greets
>> --
>> Christian Gmeiner, MSc
>>
>> https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Artyom B. <art...@ya...>]

Before CppCSM 1.0.0 the older version had no this policy and it was problem.
If a library releases a security fix with ABI compatibility - you just deploy the libcppcms.so - that's it. Only application restart is required. Consider you have a production site, if you need to release a fix you don't need to redeploy the application.
I personally had several cases were I could easily upgrade cppcms and deploy it without caring about multiple applications recompilation. If you have a big and busy site like this [1] it is critical.
Another stuff was using boost or some other libraries in API for example - it was horrible-horrible experience:
(a) boost breaks its own API & ABI almost every release (!) - your code becomes if-def spaghetti especially when customer needs a specific boost version or runs on older platform (b) boost's ABI can be broken with a simple define, the deployment is major problem especially when some customer's code uses boost as well. There are NUMEROUS cases when applications crashed because different parts were compiled with different versions of Boost - and it was very hard to debug such things(c) I need to support many platforms including Windows, so every library should have wide support of every platform/compiler(d) Today with mix of C++ 2003 and C++ 2011 it is even more critical to keep the ABI stable and independent.
[1] http://blog.cppcms.com/post/114  Artyom Beilis 
--------------
CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:   http://cppcms.com/
CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
 
      From: Paolo Bolzoni <pao...@gm...>
 To: Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>; cpp...@li... 
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 4:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
   
I find praiseworthy your dedication to keep cmscpp ABI compatible and
the strict policy for external deps, but it is really necessary? Is
the userbase so large that doing differently would really break things
like in KDE?

It absolutely not meant as a critic, I am asking because I don't understand.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
> Regarding the internal HTTP server.
>
> It requires following features:
>
> - File serving - simple stuff - changes in internal_file_server
>  (a) make text only sanitizing of URLs (for next step)
>  (b) make symlinks resolution optional, improve the performance
>  (c) make it asynchronous (optional)
> - Support of HTTPS - complex - mostly at booster::aio level - implement
> asynchronous/synchronous ssl "socket" and integrate it into http_api.cpp
> - Support HTTP/1.1 - very complex - at http_api.cpp level
>  (a) keep-alive
>  (b) chunked transfer encoding
>  (c) pipelining
>  (d) more...
> - Support of Web Sockets -  very complex - probably requires first to
> implement HTTP/1.1 and design WebSocket API at cppcms::context() level.
>
>
> Now... you can't really use the libraries you suggested because
>
> (a) internal HTTP server works withing CppCMS internal event loop and any
> library should be integrated INTO the event loop rather than CppCMS would
> use external HTTP library
> (b) CppCMS has very strict policy on introduction of new dependencies:
> http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_coding_standards#Libraries
>
>
> So basically you need to implement the HTTP stuff yourself.
>
> The file serving is handled by this code:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/code/HEAD/tree/framework/trunk/src/internal_file_server.cpp
>
> It can be significantly improved...
>
> Regarding SVN... so far there were too few people who wanted to contribute.
> The conversion isn't easy as many automatic tools work with svn (release
> stuff, nightly builds etc)
>
> Also you can always use git-svn.
>
> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marius Cirsta <mf...@gm...>
> To: cpp...@li...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:50 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> I ( and maybe others ) would like to help but I guess the entry point
> is a bit too high, I certainly don't know enough about the design of
> CppCMS to be able to implement a significant feature. However if
> properly broken down into smaller bits I believe it's doable.
> Of course this would mean different coding styles and you'd have to
> review the work, make suggestions.
>
> Of all these new features 1. multiple event loops - should give
> important performance boost and solve bottleneck there sound the most
> important to me.
>
> While this :
> 5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be
> more efficient in file serving.
>
> sounds like something I'd like to work on and it would probably be
> easier ( hopefully ) than the rest of the core CppCMS work. Maybe
> using this Proxygen, a collection of C++ HTTP libraries, including an
> easy-to-use HTTP server would be an idea ?
>
> I know you really like SVN but if CppCMS ever goes the multiple
> developers route then something like GitHub is probably better.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
>> Ok...
>>
>> The reason the patch isn't in because it is API change that minor release
>> should not include.
>>
>> But in general the version is quite stable.
>>
>> I have following important things I want to add to 1.2
>>
>> 1. multiple event loops - should give important performance boost and
>> solve
>> bottleneck there
>> 2. redesign mounting/generation application concept.
>> 3. support of event loop access before the post data is uploaded (for
>> stuff
>> like upload meters)
>> 4. Plugin - we have some significant improvements as it is possible to
>> generate headers for templates but some more stuff is required to be fully
>> useful
>> 5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be more
>> efficient in file serving.
>>
>> The rest of the stuff there
>>
>> http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_tasks#CppCMS.1.1.0.-.Next.Release
>> can really wait.
>>
>> Now I can postpone some of the stuff to 1.4 but that means that these
>> features would be postponed even more.
>>
>> Also multiple event loops is important but I can postpone it to 1.4.
>> 2-3 are very important changes and very connected I really want them in
>> 1.2
>> but they also can wait
>> I think that 4 and 5 are smaller and very important to get them to 1.2...
>> also they aren't "big" features. But requested ones.
>>
>> To implement 2 and 3 and to some degree 1 I need to redesign entire
>> mounting/application factory concept.
>>
>> (a) factory for per-event-loop fir async-apps
>> (b) mounting option for pre-POST processing application handling.
>> (c) change application "generation" point from event loop to the thread
>> pool
>> such that there would be no more applications than threads (it is current
>> design issue that should be fixed)
>>
>> So....
>>
>> Community: YOUR OPINION NEEDED...
>>
>> Artyom Beilis
>> --------------
>> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
>> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
>> To: Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>;
>> cpp...@li...
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> 2015-03-18 9:11 GMT+01:00 Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>:
>>> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>>>
>>
>> That is really no problem for me. I like this attitude to finish stuff
>> before they hit
>> productive use.
>>
>>> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see
>>> too
>>> much commits.
>>>
>>
>> Some years ago - yes sounds brutal - I added a patch which got added
>> to cppcms (trunk only).
>> So I got you to merge a patch, which is great, but there is no
>> released version of cppcms with
>> this patch in, which is bad.
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/patches/13/
>>
>> Thats what makes me feel bad about cppcms. I think it would a good
>> thing to release more often
>> with less features. Maybe also fixing compiler warnings would be cool.
>> I can look into it, but
>> it is not as easy as with other FOSS projects to get patches accepted
>> and into an released version.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Artyom Beilis
>>> --------------
>>> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
>>> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
>>> To: cpp...@li...
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
>>> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not
>>> sure
>>> if
>>> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>>>
>>
>> greets
>> --
>> Christian Gmeiner, MSc
>>
>> https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner
>>
>>
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[sergey l. <ccp...@gm...>]

Dear Artyom, Dear community!

Just my 2c:
1. We should migrate to github. Yes, I understand you about already
configured svn environment and etc, but github is really powerful and user
friendly social platform and I'm sure it'll simplify development process
and increase community activity. In the long term it definitely worth the
time and effort.
2. I'll be glad to see small releases even with few changes than one big
release per 1-2 years.



On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:

> Ok...
>
> The reason the patch isn't in because it is API change that minor release
> should not include.
>
> But in general the version is quite stable.
>
> I have following important things I want to add to 1.2
>
> 1. multiple event loops - should give important performance boost and
> solve bottleneck there
> 2. redesign mounting/generation application concept.
> 3. support of event loop access before the post data is uploaded (for
> stuff like upload meters)
> 4. Plugin - we have some significant improvements as it is possible to
> generate headers for templates but some more stuff is required to be fully
> useful
> 5. improve internal HTTP server so it can be used more freely and be more
> efficient in file serving.
>
> The rest of the stuff there
> http://cppcms.com/wikipp/en/page/cppcms_1x_tasks#CppCMS.1.1.0.-.Next.Release
> can really wait.
>
> Now I can postpone some of the stuff to 1.4 but that means that these
> features would be postponed even more.
>
> Also multiple event loops is important but I can postpone it to 1.4.
> 2-3 are very important changes and very connected I really want them in
> 1.2 but they also can wait
> I think that 4 and 5 are smaller and very important to get them to 1.2...
> also they aren't "big" features. But requested ones.
>
> To implement 2 and 3 and to some degree 1 I need to redesign entire
> mounting/application factory concept.
>
> (a) factory for per-event-loop fir async-apps
> (b) mounting option for pre-POST processing application handling.
> (c) change application "generation" point from event loop to the thread
> pool such that there would be no more applications than threads (it is
> current design issue that should be fixed)
>
> So....
>
> Community: YOUR OPINION NEEDED...
>
> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:   http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
> *To:* Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>;
> cpp...@li...
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:10 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> Hi
>
> 2015-03-18 9:11 GMT+01:00 Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...>:
> > I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
> >
>
> That is really no problem for me. I like this attitude to finish stuff
> before they hit
> productive use.
>
> > Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see
> too
> > much commits.
> >
>
> Some years ago - yes sounds brutal - I added a patch which got added
> to cppcms (trunk only).
> So I got you to merge a patch, which is great, but there is no
> released version of cppcms with
> this patch in, which is bad.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/p/cppcms/patches/13/
>
> Thats what makes me feel bad about cppcms. I think it would a good
> thing to release more often
> with less features. Maybe also fixing compiler warnings would be cool.
> I can look into it, but
> it is not as easy as with other FOSS projects to get patches accepted
> and into an released version.
>
>
>
>
> > Artyom Beilis
> > --------------
> > CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:  http://cppcms.com/
> > CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
> > To: cpp...@li...
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
> > Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not
> sure
> > if
> > that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
> >
>
> greets
> --
> Christian Gmeiner, MSc
>
> https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner
>
>
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Paolo B. <pao...@gm...>]

Beilis, most of your messages go in the gmail spam folder with the error:

"It has a from address in yahoo.com but has failed yahoo.com's
required tests for authentication."

Perhaps is a problem in your side?


On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>
> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see too
> much commits.
>
> Artyom Beilis
> --------------
> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:   http://cppcms.com/
> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
> To: cpp...@li...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>
> Hi all.
>
> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not sure
> if
> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>
> greets
> --
> Christian Gmeiner, MSc
>
> https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner
>
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Marius C. <mf...@gm...>]

 Yeah I hate that too... I've tried to get gmail to not do this but my
attempts so far have been futile. Artyom if there's something you can
do about this it would be nice.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Paolo Bolzoni
<pao...@gm...> wrote:
> Beilis, most of your messages go in the gmail spam folder with the error:
>
> "It has a from address in yahoo.com but has failed yahoo.com's
> required tests for authentication."
>
> Perhaps is a problem in your side?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Artyom Beilis <art...@ya...> wrote:
>> I'd say like it is said in Debian... when it is ready.
>>
>> Other than that CppCMS is fully supported and active also you don't see too
>> much commits.
>>
>> Artyom Beilis
>> --------------
>> CppCMS - C++ Web Framework:   http://cppcms.com/
>> CppDB - C++ SQL Connectivity: http://cppcms.com/sql/cppdb/
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Christian Gmeiner <chr...@gm...>
>> To: cpp...@li...
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:40 PM
>> Subject: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> cppcms is currently quite silent regarding its development and I am not sure
>> if
>> that is good. Does anybody knows about plans for the next release?
>>
>> greets
>> --
>> Christian Gmeiner, MSc
>>
>> https://soundcloud.com/christian-gmeiner
>>
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Marcel H. <ke...@co...>]

As this is quite old (2 Months) I'd like to renew this topic.
I'd really like to see new features in cppcms, e.g. websockets, but I
don't see any progress since last year and it annoys me. I know you
don't like to hear it, but github is a really powerful and great
platform and yes, they support svn.
I would love to implement a first draft for the websockets, but I refuse
to hear excuses to not integrate the community in this framework.
There are tickets from 2010, 12, and 13 (14, 15 of course too) still open.
I really like the framework and everything else, but I'd love to see the
community be a part of this project. Currently they are "only" active
mailing list users, but concerning the code development? Nope. I see a
single commit that is not from artyom-beilis and that is from
'mtonkikh'. (isn't your nickname, is it?)

And that's something you have to change. I hope you understand my
feelings and I hope, that some other users feel the same way I do.
Please don't drive this project to the ground.

Regards,
Marcel

Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment

[Artyom B. <art...@ya...>]

Actually I had recently started some internal reorganization of what is called "cgi_api" implementations (HTTP/FastCGI/SCGI) to switch the from a current pro-actor implementation to reactor + state machine based one with simplification of all I/O stuff and allow much more transparent hooking into various request stages.
As part of it WebSockets can be implemented.
BTW, with a little bit of code hacking I managed to create output web sockets (not input ones) on the current code base butbefore implementing it code reorganization is required and I work on it.
Also I must warn you, WebSockets are great mostly on paper as they don't really work with most HTTP proxies. (like any mobile provider or half of the work places) so unless you run all of them over HTTPS - they wouldn't work (tested it)
So unless you implement real time game with stuff like WebGL I'd suggest to stick to EventStream (which BTW can be implemented relatively easily even in IE10 with partial XHR) and post data with XHR.
 
Artyom Beilis
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  From: Marcel Hellwig <ke...@co...>
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 Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [Cppcms-users] Current Develoment
   
As this is quite old (2 Months) I'd like to renew this topic.
I'd really like to see new features in cppcms, e.g. websockets, but I
don't see any progress since last year and it annoys me. I know you
don't like to hear it, but github is a really powerful and great
platform and yes, they support svn.
I would love to implement a first draft for the websockets, but I refuse
to hear excuses to not integrate the community in this framework.
There are tickets from 2010, 12, and 13 (14, 15 of course too) still open.
I really like the framework and everything else, but I'd love to see the
community be a part of this project. Currently they are "only" active
mailing list users, but concerning the code development? Nope. I see a
single commit that is not from artyom-beilis and that is from
'mtonkikh'. (isn't your nickname, is it?)

And that's something you have to change. I hope you understand my
feelings and I hope, that some other users feel the same way I do.
Please don't drive this project to the ground.

Regards,
Marcel



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