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Re: [Cppcms-users] Cppcms-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2

[matt p. <k3...@ho...>]

Artyom,
Regarding the 1.x being better API and obviously more feature rich, I have a concern.
I installed 0.x, and in order to do so, had to install boost and a bunch of other stuff.  If I were to install 1.x, would I just have to worry about the cppcms part?   This is on Linux.
Thanks,Matt

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> Hi,
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> I'm am currently a PHP web developer, but I'm interested in the structure,
> performance, and low level access of C++.  Where should I start?  Should I
> be looking into CppCMS 1.X or 0.X?  Is there a guide that can take me
> through everything (including setting up the nginx and fcgi)?
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> Hi,
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> first of all make sure you had registered to this mailing
> list, so I would not have to approve your mails.
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> > Where should I start?  Should I be 
> > looking into CppCMS 1.X or 0.X?
> 
> CppCMS 0.x is better documented has more tutorials
> but with release of 1.x it would receive only minor
> support. So for future 1.x is better but be aware
> that it is still beta version, but it is quite stable.
> 
> The major drawback of CppCMS 1.x.x is that it has
> less tutorials. But it has much
> better API and much simpler to configure and install.
> 
> So it is up to you.
> 
> Note: CppCMS 1.x had brought big changed is API so
>       it would not be stright forward to upgrade to 
>       next version.
> 
> 
> >Is there a guide that can take me through 
> >everything 
> 
> Averithing can be found there:
> 
>    http://art-blog.no-ip.info/wikipp/en/page/main
> 
> Start from tutorials and reference documentation.
> 
> Also CppCMS 1.x has quite a set of examples in svn.
> 
> > (including setting up the nginx and fcgi)?
> 
> There is utility cppcms_run that allows you to debug and
> run your application with different web servers, also CppCMS 1.x has
> build in web server for debugging.
> 
> Just take a look on configuration file being created, 
> CppCMS setup is same setup for general fastcgi process.
> 
> Regards,
>   Artyom
> 
> 
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> 
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> Hi, I'm currently a PHP developer too, and I have a little experience in C++
> development with Borland C++ Builder and SDCC.
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> If you new to development in C++, we must learn some different (or different
> implemented) language features compare with PHP, such as function operator,
> template (many external library provide API via template), and pointer
> (including array pointer, string pointer, etc).
> 
> We must know how to compile and link our program with or without external
> library (some that maybe strange for a PHP developer). A book that cover
> this problem is "An Introduction to GCC,for the GNU Compilers gcc and g++".
> 
> Oh ya, I have read an old Design Pattern book by gang of four. Some part of
> this book explain how to use C++ language feature in design pattern in an
> elegant and simple way.
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> I hope this can help you.
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> -Aris Setyawan
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Cppcms-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2

[Artyom <art...@ya...>]

Yes, indeed, CppCMS 1.x is much better:

- Better and Reacher API
- Better Unit test coverage
- Simpler installation
- Better OS support.
- Even It is still beta, it is quite stable one and I think it is
  even less buggy then CppCMS 0.x, but its API is still evolving.

So at this point I could even declare CppCMS 1.x.x as "stable version"
but the API and ABI can't be considered stable.

When CppCMS 1.x.x will be release it would be ABI stable till 
next release so this is why I still don't make an official stable
release.

But these are points that CppCMS users should be aware of.

In any case I have a big question:

  How many of you using CppCMS 1.x.x beta and how many of you
  are using CppCMS 0.0.x?

Maybe it is better to declare CppCMS 1.x.x branch as stable and release
versions 0.99.X that would be considered as stable with evolving API?

Regards,
  Artyom


      

Re: [Cppcms-users] Cppcms-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2

[Daniel V. <chi...@gm...>]

>   How many of you using CppCMS 1.x.x beta and how many of you
>   are using CppCMS 0.0.x?

I use CppCMS 1.x.x on two projects and I have no problems.

My opinion is cppcms 1.x.x is stable.

Re: [Cppcms-users] Cppcms-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2

[Geert V. de V. <gee...@ba...>]

1.x.x hasn't let me down yet in the development of my application. So it
seems stable. The only major issue for calling it the stable is the lack
of documentation. This should be taken care off before making it stable
imho.
What are the API changes that you expect?

Greetins,
Geert

On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 07:05 -0700, Artyom wrote:
> Yes, indeed, CppCMS 1.x is much better:
> 
> - Better and Reacher API
> - Better Unit test coverage
> - Simpler installation
> - Better OS support.
> - Even It is still beta, it is quite stable one and I think it is
>   even less buggy then CppCMS 0.x, but its API is still evolving.
> 
> So at this point I could even declare CppCMS 1.x.x as "stable version"
> but the API and ABI can't be considered stable.
> 
> When CppCMS 1.x.x will be release it would be ABI stable till 
> next release so this is why I still don't make an official stable
> release.
> 
> But these are points that CppCMS users should be aware of.
> 
> In any case I have a big question:
> 
>   How many of you using CppCMS 1.x.x beta and how many of you
>   are using CppCMS 0.0.x?
> 
> Maybe it is better to declare CppCMS 1.x.x branch as stable and release
> versions 0.99.X that would be considered as stable with evolving API?
> 
> Regards,
>   Artyom
> 
> 
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Re: [Cppcms-users] Cppcms-users Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2

[Artyom <art...@ya...>]

> What are the API changes that you  expect?
> 

There are several expected changes:

1. I would probably add an option to have several event loops in single cppcms 
process
   but it seems to be backward compatible change
2. The Booster.Aio sockets classes are going to be changed, into more asio like 
style
3. It looks like localization API would have slight changes.

Meanwhile there was only one important change between beta 1 to 2 - all 
asynchronous
API use booster::callback rather then booster::function. callback unlike 
function
uses reference counting of internal object rather then coping, this improves
performance significantly but has effect on state-full callbacks.
Which are almost never state-full.

Artyom