RE: [Cosmos2-code] Groups

[Ben K. <ben...@it...>]

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>
> >Only issue here is they work differently .. An armour unit with
> tanks in a
> >cave may still have guys with rifles , so is effective ( though
> less so) and
> >still has mouths to feed. A ship which is mothballed is a dead hulk.
> >
> >In game terms mothballing the tanks in an armoured unit means some of the
> >amour components ( items) are no longer active .. With a ship
> unit the whole
> >unit becomes inactive.
>
> I still think that one can mothball a tank regiment unit :: all huys are
> removed
> the ionly thing left are the tanks themselves... no mouth to feed
>
> but I understand the issue
>
> if one make a unit like
>
>
> StandardArmyUnit =
>
>          InfantryRegiment        // 1000 rifle mens
>          TankDivision            // 500 tanks with personnel
>
> what is left after a mothball : tank hulls and riffles ???


Actualy an armoured unit may look like this

Armoured Unit (size 125 ) - Components Medium  Tank hull (crew 4)  , 10 ton
ICE , 128 mm gun , 2 * MG , combat sensors I , 3 * 10 ton steel armour,  4
* Rifles.  (Crew will be 500. )

While in the long term I may allow mothballing at this points it is too much
of a pain. One thing you may note is that when the Unit is stowed or raided
with surprise "heavy equipment" may not be used , this would be similar to
mothballing . So when there ship is bordered the unit is still somewhat
usefull if you dont have the rifles they will be massacred in a surprise
command raid or boarding.

Ok I will put the order in but it will be inactive at this point.


>
> > >
> > >
> > > > > - transport(do they never carry anything? what about
> > > goods(possibly need
> > > > > protected supplies to a hostile planet/area) or artifacts
> or heros?)
> > > >
> > > >Thats an interesting point the way I see it transport would be
> > > done by ships
> > > >acting on the armies . Again as armies are confined you will
> > > need to use a
> > > >fleet to move stuff.
> > > >
> > > > > - lay minefield (why not, sacrifice production potential
> for defense
> > > > > against landings)
> > > >
> > > >These minefields are space based I dont envisage ground
> based units could
> > > >lay space based mines.
> > >
> > > they can lay mine fields on ground in prevision of ground combat
> >This would be a mine component as part of an infantry unit and
> would be done
> >automatically as part of the combat phase ( which can be 2 months - 20
> >years) .
>
>
>
> here I do not understand
>
> how can it be part of combat ???

Ground Mines ( not space ones) would  only be activated when that unit is
attacked. This occurs in the combat phase and the mines can be asumed to be
layed ( if there is no surprise).

> what is combat phase ??? is it a real-time phase ??

No , in multi player mode that I am starting with there is NO real time
phases ( except transfers & disbands) . You can only give orders and the
processing computer executes them all. In single player mode we may add
movement during the turn , but not at present.

> it seems not --> a 2 month combat phase ?? a 20 year combat phase ??
> when I play 4X I feel personnaly always in combat phase !!!

1 turn in the game will represent 2-3 months to 20 years. It will start out
at 20 years but drop later when certain techs are achieved. There may be a
number of ground combat phases but I will start with 1.

>
> laying mines take a long time and you may want to do it many time
> before any combat occurs and personnaly if I was an infrantry guy I would
> refuse to lay mine during a combat !

The benefit of mines is most during mobile combat ...Anti tank mines
especially were /are used heavily to secure the advance and hinder counter
attack. Pre prepred mines are easily defeated because offensives plan for
them , exploding wires , flailers , scouts clear paths etc. Besides in a 3
month - 20 year turn you have plenty of time to lay the mines , they are
just asumed to be there for combat. Also remember 1 region in the game is
the size of the US and much bigger than europe .

Ben