Re: [coLinux-devel] Help on Fedora

[Jaroslaw K. <ja...@zd...>]

Sorry about that missing "yum". You're right - it shouldn't be called fedora
anymore. I suggest "minimal working Fedora with apt-get".

I wanted the image to be small, so instead of installing the full fedora on
a partition and then dumping it to a file I started with a file and kept
adding packages until I managed to bootstrap the base system without any
unnecessary libraries.

Basically what you're getting is:

* everything needed to boot fedora and get the bash prompt (SysV init
scripts and config stuff)
* basic unix utilities
* openssh client/server
* nano text editor
* vim text editor
* apt-get o get anything else that might be needed.

I've developed a script that produces this base system in a reliable and
reproducible manner. The resulting filesystem is 280MB uncompressed which is
about 200MB less than minimal fedora I could get using anaconda. apt-get is
pretty good at geting the missing stuff after that.

I was never successful at using YUM so obviously I forgot to include it.
Looks like the tool can easily eat the whole available bandwidth downloading
package headers yet it's about 30 times slower than apt-get (I'm using a
low-latency, 512 kbps link). I never actually understood how one could
prefer it to apt-get which is blazing fast.

Jarek

BTW. I'll update the image to contain "yum" package today.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "morfic" <mo...@bb...>
To: "Dan Milisic" <dmi...@ca...>
Cc: <col...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Help on Fedora


> i was commenting on the pressumptiousness of removing a core tool, what
> you insiuate i should do would be better directed at the individual who
> decided to get his "real" fedora/taste spread
> you say a missing "setup" is having all the tools to get the job done in
> there? :)
> and why install yum? it's part of a plain install and you have to put
> forth effort to remove it to spread your "real" fedora, it was he who
> put his taste forth, i simple sought out an opportunity to try either
> im not asking to get an image "to my taste" rather than that i say
> "don't suggest what you prefer is what everyone should use, especially
> if setup is missing" (no, no mention of setup in initial email)
> how is it a time saver if you have to bring it back to a decent
> unaltered state
>
> not that big of a deal, i just wont use it
> i just wonder what Gentoo users would say if someone had a great Gentoo
> timesaver that turns out to be debian? (smile, im joking ;P)
>
>
> Dan Milisic wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the image Jarek... The FC image is a fantastic time-saver.
> >
> > morfic wrote:
> >
> >> why waste everyone's time with a fedora image that is no longer fedora
> >
> >
> > Okay... if you don't like apt for whatever reason, use it once:
> > "apt-get install yum"
> >
> > Not exactly a massive hardship.... sheesh.
> >
> > For what it's worth, you can apt/yum it to whatever you think a 'real'
> > FC install is... all the tools necessary to get the job done easily
> > are 'in there'.
> >
> > D.
> >
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