Re: [coLinux-users] Vista SP1 - complete failure

[Jonathan D. <tz...@sp...>]

I have the problem with the simple ramdisk (so no images) no matter what 
version I try.

The only difference is, with the "ntflood" 0.8.0 version, the onset of 
the slow response is delayed several minutes.

When the 'slow response' problem occurs, it affects BOTH colinux and 
windows, and continues to affect windows even after colinux is shut 
down.  The only way to recover is to reboot.

- Jonathan

Paolo Minazzi wrote:
> At home I have Vista.
> I have used a little colinux on Vista, only to see if it works.
> I had found the bug of "flooding", that Henry have solved.
> The other things seem work for me .... I don't have important problem.
> But I use it a little. I use a lot colinux on XP at work.
> It is interesting understand what exactly works and what has problems....
> Have you problem with a very simple ramdisk ?
> I could try your images ....
> Bye,
> Paolo
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:58 AM, Jonathan Deitch <tz...@sp...> wrote:
>   
>> I saw a definite difference in behavior between the 0.7.3 and the
>> "ntflood" 0.8.0 ...
>>
>> 0.7.3 would cause the system to lockup within a minute ... 0.8.0 ntflood
>> would run OK for 4-5 minutes and then lock up (same exact symptoms).
>>
>> The pictures, unfortunately, do not help.
>>
>> As I memtioned, this problem occurs with minimal settings (initrd and
>> root) booting the initrd ram boot.
>>
>> No image, no network, no nothing.
>>
>> If I can't get the RAM boot to work, then there's no point going any
>> farther with anything else.
>>
>> Any ideas?  I really need help on this ... if there isn't a solution
>> soon, I will probably be forced to abandon using colinux altogether, and
>> rethinking my whole way of working.  :-(
>>
>> - Jonathan
>> Henry Nestler wrote:
>>     
>>> I have no Vista running. But from an example of install I have lots of
>>> screenshots. Perhaps you will find suggestions from there:
>>> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/screenshoots/Vista-Album
>>>
>>> The "ntconsoleflood" is also fixed in coLinux version 0.7.3 final release.
>>>
>>> Henry
>>>
>>> Jonathan Deitch wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>>  Whoops ... I spoke too soon.
>>>>
>>>> The "ntconsoleflood" 0.8.0 version allows the system to boot, and run
>>>> for a bit.
>>>>
>>>> After about 5 minutes, however, the same exact circumstances as before
>>>> occur.
>>>>
>>>> Reproduced with all the same settings (including the barebones /dev/RAM
>>>> boot).
>>>>
>>>> Same symptoms with vista before after colinux shutdown - everything runs
>>>> very slow, entire PC is unusable.
>>>>
>>>> So still no solution.
>>>>
>>>> - Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Deitch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> OK ... update ...
>>>>>
>>>>> After diving into the colinux-users archive, I saw a note about the
>>>>> 0.8.0 test version for ntconsoleflood ... that actually seems to have
>>>>> fixed this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> As noted in the email string that led to that test version, the Vista
>>>>> Business I'm running it on is a multi-core cpu; this may be another
>>>>> example where a SMP setup is breaking the 'older' versions of colinux.
>>>>>
>>>>> My previous system, is a WinXP P4 2.4 .. which is a single cpu system.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Deitch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I've tried every trick I can find on the web, and I can't get /any/
>>>>>> version of colinux running on Vista SP1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried 0.7.3 (release version) and the latest 0.8.x development
>>>>>> version.  Same exact symptom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens is the system boots up, and seems to be just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After about 60 seconds, /both /the linux /and/ Vista slow to a crawl
>>>>>> and neither is usable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if you get Colinux shut down, Vista is /still/ slow as molasses
>>>>>> and the only recovery is to reboot (and that's if Vista doesn't
>>>>>> freeze on shutdown).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried with multiple system images (various flavors of Linux), same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried with the bare Ramdisk boot (just initrd.gz) - same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried to run a debug on the bare ramdisk boot ... the instant the
>>>>>> system started, the entire machine rebooted.  No bluescreen, just
>>>>>> black screen then POST.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So no way to capture debug info, either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I'm completely stuck ... and this is a huge issue for me ... I do
>>>>>> major development work under colinux, and they want to retire my XP
>>>>>> box, since the entire company is migrating to Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Soon I won't be given a choice; I need this working before that
>>>>>> happens ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember ... the image in this case is irrelevant - the problem
>>>>>> occurs w/the initrd.gz RAM boot. so it's something endemic to within
>>>>>> colinux and its kernel itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Jonathan
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