From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-06-02 20:20:42
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Hello Henry Thanks for the useful info. Yes you are right, andLinux is 0.73 based but anyway I installed 0.7.3-20080524 as suggested by Paolo. The problem is still there. So it is essentially a KDE issue which, to my understanding as well, is somehow related to a bit non-deterministic TAP link. Swap is working and the kernel otherwise is solid. Regards, On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Henry Nestler <Hen...@ar...> wrote: > Hello Asif, > > yes, 0.7.3 is a better choice for you. Download it from the > http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ and run the exe-Installer. Intstall it > directly over the old path (c:\andLinux or c:\program files\andLinux). > But, if I'm right, then andLinux has also 0.7.3-rc3 the release > candidate. There the startup crash was fixed. > > After any new coLinux installation remeber to update the modules! Copy > the modules file to some place, where you have an access with cofs > mounted windows directory and run such command inside coLinux: > > tar xzf "Path/name/file...modules.tgz" -C / > > Paolo is fighting with kernel crash. Asif, you have an application > crash. This can be a problem with loosing network. > If you was running ones the 0.8.0, then you need to remove all the udev > entries from file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules, after a > coLinux reboot the netwotk should work again. > > Asif, also check your free memory. Is the swap file working? If some > full, then incrase the "mem=..." or incrase the swap file. > > Asif Iqbal wrote: >> After couple of more crashes, I think I can confirm that before a >> crash, these messages are displayed: >> >> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10 >> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop >> >> If I leave the system in this hungup state, then after half an hour or >> so, it recovers itself and prints this message: >> konsole: Fatal IO error: client killed >> >> Now, is there some possibility of solving it? >> >> On another note: I am no ardent fan of KDE, the only thing is that >> konsole is much better than rigid fltk colinux console which does not >> allow any copy/paste, no re-scaling, nothing. >> >> Asif >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>> Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem. >>> Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is >>> a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole >>> is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop >>> >>> I did use: >>> collinux-daemon --remove driver >>> collinux-daemon --install driver >>> >>> before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages. >>> >>> I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested. >>> >>> Asif >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> 1) >>>> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3. >>>> I think that the most stable version for now is the following : >>>> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/ >>>> >>>> Download this version. >>>> The only file that you DON'T need is the >>>> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files. >>>> >>>> Before try the new one, remember to use >>>> collinux-daemon --remove driver >>>> collinux-daemon --install driver >>>> It is very important. >>>> >>>> 2) >>>> It is important the you understand the type of the problem >>>> There are two kind of problems: >>>> - kernel problems >>>> - application problems >>>> >>>> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable. >>>> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a >>>> freeze of the PC. >>>> >>>> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC. >>>> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better. >>>> >>>> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the >>>> distribution, that is all the user space programs. >>>> >>>> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux. >>>> Is the network connection is OK ? >>>> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice. >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> Paolo >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the >>>>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other >>>>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till >>>>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes >>>>> up nevertheless. >>>>> >>>>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To >>>>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using >>>>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how >>>>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup? >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I get the logs? >>>>>> >>>>>> Asif >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux. >>>>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. >>>>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following : >>>>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver >>>>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. >>>>>>> I only use the console-nt. >>>>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? >>>>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in >>>>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If yes, send the log. >>>>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE? >>>>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log .... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>> Paolo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Paolo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I >>>>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the >>>>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, >>>>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at >>>>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does >>>>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, >>>>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the >>>>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, >>>>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I >>>>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 >>>>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the >>>>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to >>>>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". >>>>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from >>>>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied >>>>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it >>>>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it >>>>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> Asif >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >>>>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >>>>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >>>>>>>>> some kernel configuration. >>>>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >>>>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >>>>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >>>>>>>>> Can you post a log ? >>>>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >>>>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >>>>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>>>> Paolo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>>>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>>>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>>>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have tried: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>>>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any help?? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>>>>> Defy all challenges. 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