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[coLinux-users] Wiki at Wikia or SourceForge?

[Henry N. <hen...@ar...>]

Hello,

after big database error since September 18 2008 (see [1]), our Wiki 
host is shutting down now [2]. There is no big problem, as we have Wikia 
as fall back for quickly access mostly of pages.

The current plan is to use SF new service "Hosted Apps". But, before I 
restore some of the pages from my backup to any place, I would ask for 
your opinions.

    Go back to Wikia or goto SourceForge?

Here is a list of differences, I found.
Wikia:					| SourceForge.net:
anonymously edits allowed	| Must login on SF for edit
Full history, back to 2006		| Can only import last page status¸see [3]
Short wiki URL, for exmple [4]	| Long URL for a page, for example [3]
Oversized skin "Monaco"		| Fast and small skin "Monobook"
Many ads and animated flash	| Currently no ads. I feel it comes on top 
banner.
Top Google ranking			| Would perhaps never stay on top of results.

[1] http://scribblewikiblog.com/downtime/#comment-134
[2] http://scribblewikiblog.com/scribblewiki-is-shutting-down/
[3] http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/colinux/index.php?title=26images
[4] http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/26images

-- 
Henry N.

Re: [coLinux-users] Wiki at Wikia or SourceForge?

[Reini U. <ru...@x-...>]

2008/9/30 Henry Nestler <hen...@ar...>:
> Hello,
>
> after big database error since September 18 2008 (see [1]), our Wiki
> host is shutting down now [2]. There is no big problem, as we have Wikia
> as fall back for quickly access mostly of pages.
>
> The current plan is to use SF new service "Hosted Apps". But, before I
> restore some of the pages from my backup to any place, I would ask for
> your opinions.
>
>    Go back to Wikia or goto SourceForge?
>
> Here is a list of differences, I found.
> Wikia:                                  | SourceForge.net:
> anonymously edits allowed       | Must login on SF for edit
> Full history, back to 2006              | Can only import last page status¸see [3]
> Short wiki URL, for exmple [4]  | Long URL for a page, for example [3]
> Oversized skin "Monaco"         | Fast and small skin "Monobook"
> Many ads and animated flash     | Currently no ads. I feel it comes on top
> banner.
> Top Google ranking                      | Would perhaps never stay on top of results.
>
> [1] http://scribblewikiblog.com/downtime/#comment-134
> [2] http://scribblewikiblog.com/scribblewiki-is-shutting-down/
> [3] http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/colinux/index.php?title=26images
> [4] http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/26images

Good summary!
Both are based in mediawiki, so it's only the hosting.
For me as phpwiki developer and also having troubles with SF for a long
time with their proxies I would choose (stay with) wikia.

-- 
Reini Urban
http://phpwiki.org/              http://murbreak.at/

Re: [coLinux-users] Wiki at Wikia or SourceForge?

[Steve W. <li...@la...>]

On my opinion i dont like the way SourceForge integrates the services
like bugtracker and wiki because the are ugly to use and the look.

So i give a third suggestion. Why dont move to google code. The have a
very clean and easy bugtracker and also support for wiki and svn version
control.

Steve

Henry Nestler schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
> after big database error since September 18 2008 (see [1]), our Wiki 
> host is shutting down now [2]. There is no big problem, as we have Wikia 
> as fall back for quickly access mostly of pages.
> 
> The current plan is to use SF new service "Hosted Apps". But, before I 
> restore some of the pages from my backup to any place, I would ask for 
> your opinions.
> 
>     Go back to Wikia or goto SourceForge?
> 
> Here is a list of differences, I found.
> Wikia:					| SourceForge.net:
> anonymously edits allowed	| Must login on SF for edit
> Full history, back to 2006		| Can only import last page status¸see [3]
> Short wiki URL, for exmple [4]	| Long URL for a page, for example [3]
> Oversized skin "Monaco"		| Fast and small skin "Monobook"
> Many ads and animated flash	| Currently no ads. I feel it comes on top 
> banner.
> Top Google ranking			| Would perhaps never stay on top of results.
> 
> [1] http://scribblewikiblog.com/downtime/#comment-134
> [2] http://scribblewikiblog.com/scribblewiki-is-shutting-down/
> [3] http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/colinux/index.php?title=26images
> [4] http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/26images
> 

Re: [coLinux-users] Wiki at Wikia or SourceForge?

[<Use...@zo...>]

hen...@ar...(Henry Nestler)  30.09.08 23:50

Once upon a time "Henry Nestler " shaped the electrons to say...

>Hello,

>after big database error since September 18 2008 (see [1]), our Wiki
>host is shutting down now [2]. There is no big problem, as we have
>Wikia as fall back for quickly access mostly of pages.

>The current plan is to use SF new service "Hosted Apps". But, before I
>restore some of the pages from my backup to any place, I would ask for
>your opinions.

>    Go back to Wikia or goto SourceForge?

>Here is a list of differences, I found.


>Wikia:				| SourceForge.net:
>anonymously edits allowed	| Must login on SF for edit

Protection against wiki-spams is required today.

Could that SF-registration be cirumvented by posting an editing account to be
used by all users how have time to spent for edits?
Spammer script's can't detect it.
See
http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort
for example.


>Full history, back to 2006	| Can only import last page status?see [3]
>Short wiki URL, for exmple [4]	| Long URL for a page, for example [3]
>Oversized skin "Monaco"	| Fast and small skin "Monobook"

>Many ads and animated flash	| Currently no ads. I feel it comes on top banner.
not good, but adds can be removed by ABP etc.
good because the server is "payed".
But SF got money too.


>Top Google ranking		| Would perhaps never stay on top of results.

Hard to say what's better...
Automatic mirroring both? ;-)



>[1] http://scribblewikiblog.com/downtime/#comment-134
>[2] http://scribblewikiblog.com/scribblewiki-is-shutting-down/
>[3] http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/colinux/index.php?title=26im
>ages [4] http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/26images

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