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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-05-29 15:57:40
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At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe but it simply doesn't get killed. I have tried: taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f and taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" and taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in the task list driving me crazy. Any help?? Thanks. |
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From: Paolo M. <pao...@gm...> - 2008-05-29 17:21:45
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Hi, in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. It is better understand the problem and solve it. Kill the daemon is only a work-around. In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change some kernel configuration. If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. Can you post a log ? If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... Bye, Paolo On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: > At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only > stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in > the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe > but it simply doesn't get killed. > > I have tried: > > taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f > and > taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" > and > taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" > > It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in > the task list driving me crazy. > > Any help?? > Thanks. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-users mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > |
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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-05-29 17:59:43
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Hello Paolo Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to hangup again after some unknown period. It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it tomorrow. And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it stays between 0 to 4%. Thanks. Asif On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: > Hi, > in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. > It is better understand the problem and solve it. > Kill the daemon is only a work-around. > > In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change > some kernel configuration. > If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill > the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. > My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. > > It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. > Can you post a log ? > If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of > colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. > It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. > > I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... > > Bye, > Paolo > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >> but it simply doesn't get killed. >> >> I have tried: >> >> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >> and >> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >> and >> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >> >> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >> the task list driving me crazy. >> >> Any help?? >> Thanks. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> coLinux-users mailing list >> coL...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-users mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > |
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From: Paolo M. <pao...@gm...> - 2008-05-30 06:43:23
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My advice is to download the last version of colinux. 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. Get the new version and remember to use the following : colinux-daemon --remove-driver colinux-daemon --install-driver I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. I only use the console-nt. Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. If yes, send the log. Or the problem appear only using KDE? We need some information, screenshoot, log .... Bye, Paolo On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: > Hello Paolo > > Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. > > The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I > use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the > windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, > it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at > the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does > not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, > etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the > same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, > I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I > cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 > minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the > tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to > hangup again after some unknown period. > > It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". > Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from > the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied > colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it > tomorrow. > > And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it > stays between 0 to 4%. > > Thanks. > Asif > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >> Hi, >> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >> >> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >> some kernel configuration. >> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >> >> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >> Can you post a log ? >> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >> >> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >> >> Bye, >> Paolo >> >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>> >>> I have tried: >>> >>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>> and >>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>> and >>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>> >>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>> the task list driving me crazy. >>> >>> Any help?? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> coLinux-users mailing list >>> coL...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> coLinux-users mailing list >> coL...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-users mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > |
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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-05-30 09:39:27
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It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often. I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup? How can I get the logs? Asif On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: > My advice is to download the last version of colinux. > 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. > Get the new version and remember to use the following : > colinux-daemon --remove-driver > colinux-daemon --install-driver > > I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. > I only use the console-nt. > Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? > This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in > colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. > > If yes, send the log. > Or the problem appear only using KDE? > We need some information, screenshoot, log .... > > Bye, > Paolo > > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >> Hello Paolo >> >> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. >> >> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I >> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the >> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, >> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at >> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does >> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, >> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the >> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, >> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I >> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 >> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the >> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to >> hangup again after some unknown period. >> >> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". >> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from >> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied >> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it >> tomorrow. >> >> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it >> stays between 0 to 4%. >> >> Thanks. >> Asif >> >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >>> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >>> >>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >>> some kernel configuration. >>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >>> >>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >>> Can you post a log ? >>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >>> >>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >>> >>> Bye, >>> Paolo >>> >>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>>> >>>> I have tried: >>>> >>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>>> and >>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>>> and >>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>>> >>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>>> the task list driving me crazy. >>>> >>>> Any help?? >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>> coL...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> coLinux-users mailing list >>> coL...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> coLinux-users mailing list >> coL...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-users mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > |
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From: Paolo M. <pao...@gm...> - 2008-05-30 12:01:57
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Hi, 1) The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3. I think that the most stable version for now is the following : http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/ Download this version. The only file that you DON'T need is the daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files. Before try the new one, remember to use collinux-daemon --remove driver collinux-daemon --install driver It is very important. 2) It is important the you understand the type of the problem There are two kind of problems: - kernel problems - application problems If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable. In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a freeze of the PC. If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC. The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better. I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the distribution, that is all the user space programs. *I think* your problem is not related to colinux. Is the network connection is OK ? Try the base system without X .... this is my advice. Bye, Paolo On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: > Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the > same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other > files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till > now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes > up nevertheless. > > Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is? > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To >> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using >> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often. >> >> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how >> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup? >> >> How can I get the logs? >> >> Asif >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux. >>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. >>> Get the new version and remember to use the following : >>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver >>> colinux-daemon --install-driver >>> >>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. >>> I only use the console-nt. >>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? >>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in >>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. >>> >>> If yes, send the log. >>> Or the problem appear only using KDE? >>> We need some information, screenshoot, log .... >>> >>> Bye, >>> Paolo >>> >>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>> Hello Paolo >>>> >>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. >>>> >>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I >>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the >>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, >>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at >>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does >>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, >>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the >>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, >>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I >>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 >>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the >>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to >>>> hangup again after some unknown period. >>>> >>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". >>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from >>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied >>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it >>>> tomorrow. >>>> >>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it >>>> stays between 0 to 4%. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> Asif >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >>>>> >>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >>>>> some kernel configuration. >>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >>>>> >>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >>>>> Can you post a log ? >>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >>>>> >>>>> Bye, >>>>> Paolo >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have tried: >>>>>> >>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>>>>> and >>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>>>>> and >>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>>>>> >>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>>>>> the task list driving me crazy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help?? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>>> coL...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>> coL...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>> coL...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> coLinux-users mailing list >>> coL...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>> >> > |
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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-05-30 12:24:19
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Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem. Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop I did use: collinux-daemon --remove driver collinux-daemon --install driver before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages. I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested. Asif On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: > Hi, > > 1) > The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3. > I think that the most stable version for now is the following : > http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/ > > Download this version. > The only file that you DON'T need is the > daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files. > > Before try the new one, remember to use > collinux-daemon --remove driver > collinux-daemon --install driver > It is very important. > > 2) > It is important the you understand the type of the problem > There are two kind of problems: > - kernel problems > - application problems > > If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable. > In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a > freeze of the PC. > > If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC. > The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better. > > I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the > distribution, that is all the user space programs. > > *I think* your problem is not related to colinux. > Is the network connection is OK ? > Try the base system without X .... this is my advice. > > Bye, > Paolo > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the >> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other >> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till >> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes >> up nevertheless. >> >> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is? >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To >>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using >>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often. >>> >>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how >>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup? >>> >>> How can I get the logs? >>> >>> Asif >>> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux. >>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. >>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following : >>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver >>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver >>>> >>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. >>>> I only use the console-nt. >>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? >>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in >>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. >>>> >>>> If yes, send the log. >>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE? >>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log .... >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> Paolo >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>> Hello Paolo >>>>> >>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. >>>>> >>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I >>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the >>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, >>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at >>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does >>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, >>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the >>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, >>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I >>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 >>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the >>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to >>>>> hangup again after some unknown period. >>>>> >>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". >>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from >>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied >>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it >>>>> tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it >>>>> stays between 0 to 4%. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Asif >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >>>>>> >>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >>>>>> some kernel configuration. >>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >>>>>> Can you post a log ? >>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bye, >>>>>> Paolo >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have tried: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any help?? >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>> Defy all challenges. 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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-05-30 16:17:22
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After couple of more crashes, I think I can confirm that before a crash, these messages are displayed: kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10 konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop If I leave the system in this hungup state, then after half an hour or so, it recovers itself and prints this message: konsole: Fatal IO error: client killed Now, is there some possibility of solving it? On another note: I am no ardent fan of KDE, the only thing is that konsole is much better than rigid fltk colinux console which does not allow any copy/paste, no re-scaling, nothing. Asif On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: > Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem. > Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is > a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole > is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop > > I did use: > collinux-daemon --remove driver > collinux-daemon --install driver > > before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages. > > I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested. > > Asif > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> 1) >> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3. >> I think that the most stable version for now is the following : >> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/ >> >> Download this version. >> The only file that you DON'T need is the >> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files. >> >> Before try the new one, remember to use >> collinux-daemon --remove driver >> collinux-daemon --install driver >> It is very important. >> >> 2) >> It is important the you understand the type of the problem >> There are two kind of problems: >> - kernel problems >> - application problems >> >> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable. >> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a >> freeze of the PC. >> >> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC. >> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better. >> >> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the >> distribution, that is all the user space programs. >> >> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux. >> Is the network connection is OK ? >> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice. >> >> Bye, >> Paolo >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the >>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other >>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till >>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes >>> up nevertheless. >>> >>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is? >>> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To >>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using >>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often. >>>> >>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how >>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup? >>>> >>>> How can I get the logs? >>>> >>>> Asif >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux. >>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. >>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following : >>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver >>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. >>>>> I only use the console-nt. >>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? >>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in >>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. >>>>> >>>>> If yes, send the log. >>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE? >>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log .... >>>>> >>>>> Bye, >>>>> Paolo >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>> Hello Paolo >>>>>> >>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I >>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the >>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, >>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at >>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does >>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, >>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the >>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, >>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I >>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 >>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the >>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to >>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". >>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from >>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied >>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it >>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it >>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Asif >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >>>>>>> some kernel configuration. >>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >>>>>>> Can you post a log ? >>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>> Paolo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have tried: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any help?? >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>>>>> coL...@li... >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>>>> coL...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>> Defy all challenges. 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From: Paolo M. <pao...@gm...> - 2008-06-02 20:01:33
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Why don't you use the console-nt ? it is not so bad :=) An other idea is to use a telnet program (putty for example). So you have resizing, fonts, copy/paste .... My advice is to don't use KDE of X ... If you need a console there are good solution. The idea under unix is to keep things simple. KDE is not simple, If you can avoid it .... Bye, Paolo |
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From: Henry N. <Hen...@Ar...> - 2008-05-30 19:46:42
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Hello Asif, yes, 0.7.3 is a better choice for you. Download it from the http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ and run the exe-Installer. Intstall it directly over the old path (c:\andLinux or c:\program files\andLinux). But, if I'm right, then andLinux has also 0.7.3-rc3 the release candidate. There the startup crash was fixed. After any new coLinux installation remeber to update the modules! Copy the modules file to some place, where you have an access with cofs mounted windows directory and run such command inside coLinux: tar xzf "Path/name/file...modules.tgz" -C / Paolo is fighting with kernel crash. Asif, you have an application crash. This can be a problem with loosing network. If you was running ones the 0.8.0, then you need to remove all the udev entries from file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules, after a coLinux reboot the netwotk should work again. Asif, also check your free memory. Is the swap file working? If some full, then incrase the "mem=..." or incrase the swap file. Asif Iqbal wrote: > After couple of more crashes, I think I can confirm that before a > crash, these messages are displayed: > > kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10 > konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop > > If I leave the system in this hungup state, then after half an hour or > so, it recovers itself and prints this message: > konsole: Fatal IO error: client killed > > Now, is there some possibility of solving it? > > On another note: I am no ardent fan of KDE, the only thing is that > konsole is much better than rigid fltk colinux console which does not > allow any copy/paste, no re-scaling, nothing. > > Asif > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >> Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem. >> Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is >> a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole >> is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop >> >> I did use: >> collinux-daemon --remove driver >> collinux-daemon --install driver >> >> before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages. >> >> I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested. >> >> Asif >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> 1) >>> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3. >>> I think that the most stable version for now is the following : >>> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/ >>> >>> Download this version. >>> The only file that you DON'T need is the >>> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files. >>> >>> Before try the new one, remember to use >>> collinux-daemon --remove driver >>> collinux-daemon --install driver >>> It is very important. >>> >>> 2) >>> It is important the you understand the type of the problem >>> There are two kind of problems: >>> - kernel problems >>> - application problems >>> >>> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable. >>> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a >>> freeze of the PC. >>> >>> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC. >>> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better. >>> >>> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the >>> distribution, that is all the user space programs. >>> >>> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux. >>> Is the network connection is OK ? >>> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice. >>> >>> Bye, >>> Paolo >>> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the >>>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other >>>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till >>>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes >>>> up nevertheless. >>>> >>>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is? >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To >>>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using >>>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often. >>>>> >>>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how >>>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup? >>>>> >>>>> How can I get the logs? >>>>> >>>>> Asif >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux. >>>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. >>>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following : >>>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver >>>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. >>>>>> I only use the console-nt. >>>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? >>>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in >>>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. >>>>>> >>>>>> If yes, send the log. >>>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE? >>>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log .... >>>>>> >>>>>> Bye, >>>>>> Paolo >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Paolo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I >>>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the >>>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, >>>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at >>>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does >>>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, >>>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the >>>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, >>>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I >>>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 >>>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the >>>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to >>>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". >>>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from >>>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied >>>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it >>>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it >>>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> Asif >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >>>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >>>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >>>>>>>> some kernel configuration. >>>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >>>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >>>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >>>>>>>> Can you post a log ? >>>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >>>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >>>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>>> Paolo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have tried: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any help?? >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> coL...@li... >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>>>>> coL...@li... >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>>>> coL...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> coLinux-users mailing list >>>>>> coL...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> coLinux-users mailing list >>> coL...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-users mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > -- Henry N. |
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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-06-02 20:20:42
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Hello Henry Thanks for the useful info. Yes you are right, andLinux is 0.73 based but anyway I installed 0.7.3-20080524 as suggested by Paolo. The problem is still there. So it is essentially a KDE issue which, to my understanding as well, is somehow related to a bit non-deterministic TAP link. Swap is working and the kernel otherwise is solid. Regards, On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Henry Nestler <Hen...@ar...> wrote: > Hello Asif, > > yes, 0.7.3 is a better choice for you. Download it from the > http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ and run the exe-Installer. Intstall it > directly over the old path (c:\andLinux or c:\program files\andLinux). > But, if I'm right, then andLinux has also 0.7.3-rc3 the release > candidate. There the startup crash was fixed. > > After any new coLinux installation remeber to update the modules! Copy > the modules file to some place, where you have an access with cofs > mounted windows directory and run such command inside coLinux: > > tar xzf "Path/name/file...modules.tgz" -C / > > Paolo is fighting with kernel crash. Asif, you have an application > crash. This can be a problem with loosing network. > If you was running ones the 0.8.0, then you need to remove all the udev > entries from file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules, after a > coLinux reboot the netwotk should work again. > > Asif, also check your free memory. Is the swap file working? If some > full, then incrase the "mem=..." or incrase the swap file. > > Asif Iqbal wrote: >> After couple of more crashes, I think I can confirm that before a >> crash, these messages are displayed: >> >> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10 >> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop >> >> If I leave the system in this hungup state, then after half an hour or >> so, it recovers itself and prints this message: >> konsole: Fatal IO error: client killed >> >> Now, is there some possibility of solving it? >> >> On another note: I am no ardent fan of KDE, the only thing is that >> konsole is much better than rigid fltk colinux console which does not >> allow any copy/paste, no re-scaling, nothing. >> >> Asif >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>> Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem. >>> Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is >>> a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole >>> is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop >>> >>> I did use: >>> collinux-daemon --remove driver >>> collinux-daemon --install driver >>> >>> before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages. >>> >>> I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested. >>> >>> Asif >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> 1) >>>> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3. >>>> I think that the most stable version for now is the following : >>>> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/ >>>> >>>> Download this version. >>>> The only file that you DON'T need is the >>>> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files. >>>> >>>> Before try the new one, remember to use >>>> collinux-daemon --remove driver >>>> collinux-daemon --install driver >>>> It is very important. >>>> >>>> 2) >>>> It is important the you understand the type of the problem >>>> There are two kind of problems: >>>> - kernel problems >>>> - application problems >>>> >>>> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable. >>>> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a >>>> freeze of the PC. >>>> >>>> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC. >>>> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better. >>>> >>>> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the >>>> distribution, that is all the user space programs. >>>> >>>> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux. >>>> Is the network connection is OK ? >>>> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice. >>>> >>>> Bye, >>>> Paolo >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the >>>>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other >>>>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till >>>>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes >>>>> up nevertheless. >>>>> >>>>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To >>>>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using >>>>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how >>>>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup? >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I get the logs? >>>>>> >>>>>> Asif >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux. >>>>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup. >>>>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following : >>>>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver >>>>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE. >>>>>>> I only use the console-nt. >>>>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)? >>>>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in >>>>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If yes, send the log. >>>>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE? >>>>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log .... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>> Paolo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Paolo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I >>>>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the >>>>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console, >>>>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at >>>>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does >>>>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service, >>>>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the >>>>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts, >>>>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I >>>>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20 >>>>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the >>>>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to >>>>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole". >>>>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from >>>>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied >>>>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it >>>>>>>> tomorrow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it >>>>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> Asif >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem. >>>>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it. >>>>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change >>>>>>>>> some kernel configuration. >>>>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill >>>>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp. >>>>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem. >>>>>>>>> Can you post a log ? >>>>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of >>>>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem. >>>>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon .... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>>>> Paolo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only >>>>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in >>>>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe >>>>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have tried: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux" >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in >>>>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any help?? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>>>>>> Defy all challenges. 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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-06-03 07:21:58
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Okay it is quite straight-forward. With putty, I ssh'd to 192.168.11.150 and it gave me the login prompt. It could not log me in because for root, there was no password. So I set a password and now I access colinux using putty. Can someone tell me how do I remove the X stuff, from both windows and linux side? On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Asif Iqbal <aiq...@gm...> wrote: > Hello Paolo > > I think I would get rid of X completely as I do not need it. Instead > of console-nt, I better go for Putty. :-) This is a good suggestion. > > So, if I want to uninstall desktop managers, etc, should I just issue: > > apt-get remove xserver-xorg gdm > > as we generally do in Ubuntu or is there some other procedure? I do > not want to lose the existing installation as I have already compiled > and installed quite some stuff in it. > In addition, how can I connect with Putty to the running > colinux-daemon instance. I think $DISPLAY variable under linux is not > of much help here as Putty will act as a client and not as server, > right? > > Thanks > Asif > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >> Why don't you use the console-nt ? it is not so bad :=) >> >> An other idea is to use a telnet program (putty for example). >> So you have resizing, fonts, copy/paste .... >> >> My advice is to don't use KDE of X ... >> If you need a console there are good solution. >> >> The idea under unix is to keep things simple. KDE is not simple, If >> you can avoid it .... >> >> Bye, >> Paolo >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> coLinux-users mailing list >> coL...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >> > |
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From: Asif I. <a....@ie...> - 2008-06-03 09:37:17
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I found out myself. Just run msconfig from windows and disable the auto-starting of Xming and KDE Launcher. Reboot and run andLinux service. ssh into colinux and run following: apt-get remove kde and then apt-get autoremove All KDE utils will be removed and some 450MB space would be freed. KDE is now gone completely. Open /etc/profile and comment the following lines: #export DISPLAY=192.168.11.1:0.0 #export ESPEAKER=192.168.11.1:16001 #export PULSE_SERVER=192.168.11.1 Now you are all set for a putty(or other remote clients)-based console only system. Asif On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote: > Okay it is quite straight-forward. With putty, I ssh'd to > 192.168.11.150 and it gave me the login prompt. It could not log me in > because for root, there was no password. So I set a password and now I > access colinux using putty. > > Can someone tell me how do I remove the X stuff, from both windows and > linux side? > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Asif Iqbal <aiq...@gm...> wrote: >> Hello Paolo >> >> I think I would get rid of X completely as I do not need it. Instead >> of console-nt, I better go for Putty. :-) This is a good suggestion. >> >> So, if I want to uninstall desktop managers, etc, should I just issue: >> >> apt-get remove xserver-xorg gdm >> >> as we generally do in Ubuntu or is there some other procedure? I do >> not want to lose the existing installation as I have already compiled >> and installed quite some stuff in it. >> In addition, how can I connect with Putty to the running >> colinux-daemon instance. I think $DISPLAY variable under linux is not >> of much help here as Putty will act as a client and not as server, >> right? >> >> Thanks >> Asif >> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote: >>> Why don't you use the console-nt ? it is not so bad :=) >>> >>> An other idea is to use a telnet program (putty for example). >>> So you have resizing, fonts, copy/paste .... >>> >>> My advice is to don't use KDE of X ... >>> If you need a console there are good solution. >>> >>> The idea under unix is to keep things simple. KDE is not simple, If >>> you can avoid it .... >>> >>> Bye, >>> Paolo >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> coLinux-users mailing list >>> coL...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users >>> >> > |
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From: Paolo M. <pao...@gm...> - 2008-06-03 07:35:55
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> I think $DISPLAY variable under linux is not > of much help here as Putty will act as a client and not as server, > right? > > Thanks > Asif It is OK. You don't need the DISPLAY variable. Putty is launched from windows side and know nothing about colinux variables. Bye, Paolo |
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